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[seraphis01]

 im so sorry for my broken english if you dont like the way that  i m killing it please please dont read me

But i have to say i did enjoy DA 2 too much.

Ok DA 2 is not sooooooo epic soooooooooo good, soooooo fantastic like DA O ( this game is the best i have ever played until now).

But i love the game.... the defaul Hawke my congratulations for those who design to her /him, fantastic work.
Loveeeeeeee Varric, Isabella (pufff too good and funny this character) Merill, anders and of course Flemeth wow fantastic....

The  fights movements a good improvisation  compared with DAO.
The only detail that i hate about the plot was the gruesome muder of hawke mother,really i dont undertand the reason to do this in a game, for god sake ,  i dont get it what proves this in the story.... i said hate this grusome murder? oh yes.... hate it  and no choices to save her.....

Anyway i had to say this here. Not DA 2  is not like DAO..... but is a good game to enjoy...

Thanks for read me 

[OwaisofSpades]

Coming off the heels of a game like Origins, DA2 was almost destined to fail before it was released. That being said, I did feel that the game could have been done alot better.

The characters were well written but underdeveloped and flat, and the plot was engaging at times (Qunari Invasion) and incoherent at others (Act III) It was rushed but it definitely still had it's moments

While I liked the subtle combat improvements like being able to move between enemies easier I felt that it was too oversimplified. Kind of like what happened with the inventory system going from ME1 to ME2. I'm guessing they'll find a balance for DA3.

It just makes me sad that the game had so much potential but didn't capitalize on it, but at least the ending opened up some good possibilities for DA3

[Arthur Cousland]

In short, DA2 was rushed, with shortcuts taken all over the place, and seeing the same environments over and over did become monotonous. It also would have been nice to see more of the Free Marches beyond Kirkwall, perhaps even Starkhaven.

Leandra's death was meant to get people to hate all mages and go pro-templar, but it felt completely unneccessary. Bioware had to kill one of Hawke's siblings in the prologue and perhaps another in the Deep Roads, then they had to kill their mother as well? It's as if the writers had a voodoo doll of Hawke and had their fun with it.

Overall, I did enjoy DA2. The combat was fun, and Varric is probably my favorite companion from the series. Hopefully we haven't seen the last of him.

Modifié par Arthur Cousland, 09 août 2012 - 07:41 .

[Icehawk7]

Agree with Arthur save for the last bit about Varric. DA2 felt melodramatic by the time the final part of the third act started. I get they were going for the "you have to fall to rise" thing. I just think it went overkill. It's why in part I never take Hawke's sister/brother with him to the Deep Roads. It just goes over the top.

I much prefer nudges that neutralize each other. Not all mages are bad, but not all are good. Same for Templars. A balancing that allows you to go either way. Especially when you know the leadership of both sides is a big part of the problem.

[Renmiri1]

I'm with the OP. I just love DA2 and the nuanced tehme and characters. Don't see the companions as flat at all. All of them are complex and not straight out "good" or "evil". The blood mage is innocent as a child. The broody elf is bigoted against all mages. The funny mage has a pool of deep seated hatred for Templars. The Templar commander is a zealot but cares for mages, her sister was a mage! The templar's 2nd in command has PTSD from being tortured by blood mages, but still manages to be fair and decent. The mages representative goes all blood mage raise the dead" out of despair. They all feel like people not causes. They have their failings and their good qualities and you can relate to them all. Even the Qunari don't feel flat and pure evil. You see the Arishok being right several times.

I really loved the game and lament the fact that it had to be so rushed with repeated dungeons and no companion inventory and such. It marred a game that could have been much more loved and appreciated.

[Mello]

Dragon Age 2 never sucked, people wanted and expected Dragon Age 2 to out due DA:O which could have never happen in my opinion. That's why people think that Dragon Age 2 is a terrible game when really it isn't. Dragon age 2 has its flaws and i'm sure that Bioware will bring there A game when it comes to Dragon Age III... hopefully.

[PinkDiamondstl]

BrotherWarth wrote...

My biggest problem with the game is that Hawke is supposed to be this world-altering character but in the end he just knew the world-altering character(Anders). Everything Hawke did was basically irrelevant. It's bordering on stupid that a Seeker would be more interested in Hawke than Anders. All Hawke did was get rich, stop a Qunari sack of a single city, and react to events set in motion by Anders. Even stopping the Qunari in Kirkwall isn't that big of a deal. It's not like they could have used Kirkwall as a foothold to take the entire area. Their numbers were very limited and they weren't getting any reinforcements. And all of this follows saving all of Thedas from a Blight that would have surely consumed everything if not for the Warden. Hawke is a small time player in a world of massive figures that are actually changing the world.

You make a good point ....you do but DA2 was still enjoyable . 
And I'll still replay it but I can't say the same thing about
ME3.

Modifié par PinkDiamondstl, 09 août 2012 - 08:07 .

[Rawgrim]

DA2 had 4 choices. Thats it. pick gender, or one of 3 classes. No matter how you solved things during the game, you got the excact same ending. If you spared an enemy or something like that, the person came back in the next chapter and forced you to kill him\\her. Doesn`t sound like a roleplaying game to me.

[SafetyShattered]

Rawgrim wrote...

DA2 had 4 choices. Thats it. pick gender, or one of 3 classes. No matter how you solved things during the game, you got the excact same ending. If you spared an enemy or something like that, the person came back in the next chapter and forced you to kill himher. Doesn`t sound like a roleplaying game to me.

Well said. I feel the exact same way. I really hope DA3 has more choices then DA2 did...

[Renmiri1]

Anders would have never stayed in Kirkwall if it wasn't for Hawke. And he would have been arrested in the middle of Act 2. Hawke's status is what kept him and Fenris out of jail. Hawkes access is what allowed him to rig the chantry with explosives. Pretty much all that he got to do depended on Hawke one way or another.

[LobselVith8]

Renmiri1 wrote...

And he would have been arrested in the middle of Act 2.

Considering that Cullen has no remorse about imprisoning Bethany, it's more likely he simply assumes Anders is still a Grey Warden - otherwise, he would have arrested him. Then again, Anders is only in the Gallows because of Hawke. Varric still would have met Anders otherwise, since he needed the maps, and Varric remains friends with Anders even if Hawke doesn't.

[Rawgrim]

Renmiri1 wrote...

Anders would have never stayed in Kirkwall if it wasn't for Hawke. And he would have been arrested in the middle of Act 2. Hawke's status is what kept him and Fenris out of jail. Hawkes access is what allowed him to rig the chantry with explosives. Pretty much all that he got to do depended on Hawke one way or another.

Odd that he stayed, really. considering that my Hawke treated him like crap. I guess he was supposed to stay, no matter what I did.

[addiction21]

No need to feel sorry about anything Seraphis. Feel sorry for the usual suspects that feel the need to rush in here and tell you why it is wrong to have enjoyed a video game they did not.

[thats1evildude]

The Act 2 Codex for Anders states he depends on the Fereldan refugees in Darktown to protect him.

Had Hawke not made it to Kirkwall, Anders would likely have died or been captured during the ambush at the Chantry.

[Rawgrim]

I wouldn`t say that. i distinctly remember anders dying in DA:Awakening too. He is immortal, Like Leliana.

[bioelectronicsam]

seraphis01 wrote...

 im so sorry for my broken english if you dont like the way that  i m killing it please please dont read me

But i have to say i did enjoy DA 2 too much.

Ok DA 2 is not sooooooo epic soooooooooo good, soooooo fantastic like DA O ( this game is the best i have ever played until now).

But i love the game.... the defaul Hawke my congratulations for those who design to her /him, fantastic work.
Loveeeeeeee Varric, Isabella (pufff too good and funny this character) Merill, anders and of course Flemeth wow fantastic....

The  fights movements a good improvisation  compared with DAO.
The only detail that i hate about the plot was the gruesome muder of hawke mother,really i dont undertand the reason to do this in a game, for god sake ,  i dont get it what proves this in the story.... i said hate this grusome murder? oh yes.... hate it  and no choices to save her.....

Anyway i had to say this here. Not DA 2  is not like DAO..... but is a good game to enjoy...

Thanks for read me 

I am coming back to DA2 again after playing some other highly anticipated fantasy games that have allowed me to reconsider how much I enjoy DA2, there are a handfull of games I can replay and truly enjoy, DA2 is one of those.  After my initial play through of DA2 I was dissappointed with a few things, like the recycled areas, but the more I consider it DA2 gave me everything I want in  a video game, I love the story, charecters, and really enjoyed the combat.

Regarding Hawke's mother's death, this was one of the few times I felt extremely emotional while playing a game, I think that event really added to my game experience and I commend Bioware for putting it in.   

[Winged Silver]

LobselVith8 wrote...

Renmiri1 wrote...

And he would have been arrested in the middle of Act 2.

Considering that Cullen has no remorse about imprisoning Bethany, it's more likely he simply assumes Anders is still a Grey Warden - otherwise, he would have arrested him. Then again, Anders is only in the Gallows because of Hawke. Varric still would have met Anders otherwise, since he needed the maps, and Varric remains friends with Anders even if Hawke doesn't.

You make a good point....I've always mentally facepalmed at the notion that Hawke and Anders are allowed to throw fireballs willy-nilly whenever/wherever and no one ever stops and goes "MAGE! RUN !"....I really hope Bioware capitalizes on this (and the idea of a character being a blood mage since no one one said anything against that!)

[Realmzmaster]

Rawgrim wrote...

I wouldn`t say that. i distinctly remember anders dying in DA:Awakening too. He is immortal, Like Leliana.

Depending on what the Warden or Warden commander does or does not do Anders may or may not die. In some of my playthroughs Anders lived. He return to the Circle for a while giving a paper on the Architect, but return to the Grey Wardens because he got bored and miss the excitement. Anders only dies if he is left at the Keep in Awakening and the Keep is not upgraded.

[Cultist]

Why this post reminds me about this

[Spicen]

iPoohCupCakes wrote...

Dragon Age 2 never sucked, people wanted and expected Dragon Age 2 to out due DA:O which could have never happen in my opinion. That's why people think that Dragon Age 2 is a terrible game when really it isn't. Dragon age 2 has its flaws and i'm sure that Bioware will bring there A game when it comes to Dragon Age III... hopefully.

I cant agree with u sorry, DA 2 was rubbish by nature. Becoz:

1) Lack of details(misc icons are shown as junk, lazy work)
2)Recycled Areas
3)Napoleonic strategy fighting(enemy in waves)
4)Lack of key decisions
5)Bodies exploding like Lego blocks
6)Clownspawn:- Hurlocks look as if they are starved, shrieks are goblins, emmisaries are just mehhhhhhhhh
7)Too many bi-sexual characters/character less characters
8)Too many mad templars and mages
9) It takes Cullen forever to realize Meredith's gone bonkers
10)Nothing epic
11)No freedom of religion
12) Inactivity of Hawke for three years despite Meredith gone wild
13)The character cant be evil
14)Romances are *********
15)Hawke just run away without any cause(that scardy cat)
16)Inability to customize characters
17)No real enemy
18)And obviously hurried into the market.

Its a BAD game(worst of Bioware history). Lets AMEN

[seraphis01]

HI again

wow spice you dont want a video game you want a reallly very good novel to read

Now the problem with DA 2 was DA origins.....yep this game was tooo good too epic game almost perfect to me and you know what ? i think Bioware will not make a game like this one never again because now everything is done i mean games is done in rushed way, " we need fast money fast moneyyyy" Bioware cant take 6 years again doing a game like this ever again.....
Now i enjoyed the others characters in DA 2 , theirs interactions , I loveee Varric, Isabella too funny, etc Flemeth looove see her in that way in DA 2, the combat, some scenes etc.

Yes it feel rushed of course but DA2 s a very enjoyable game....

I love the default Hawke and hes /she is not world-altering character because you can see in this game only a human being with leadership qualities but a normal human being....

Again sorry for my broken english and thanks to you share you opinion about this too

Hey addiction21 tahnks you lovee you for wour words

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

Spicen wrote...

iPoohCupCakes wrote...

Dragon Age 2 never sucked, people wanted and expected Dragon Age 2 to out due DA:O which could have never happen in my opinion. That's why people think that Dragon Age 2 is a terrible game when really it isn't. Dragon age 2 has its flaws and i'm sure that Bioware will bring there A game when it comes to Dragon Age III... hopefully.

I cant agree with u sorry, DA 2 was rubbish by nature. Becoz:

1) Lack of details(misc icons are shown as junk, lazy work)
2)Recycled Areas
3)Napoleonic strategy fighting(enemy in waves)
4)Lack of key decisions
5)Bodies exploding like Lego blocks
6)Clownspawn:- Hurlocks look as if they are starved, shrieks are goblins, emmisaries are just mehhhhhhhhh
7)Too many bi-sexual characters/character less characters
8)Too many mad templars and mages
9) It takes Cullen forever to realize Meredith's gone bonkers
10)Nothing epic
11)No freedom of religion
12) Inactivity of Hawke for three years despite Meredith gone wild
13)The character cant be evil
14)Romances are *********
15)Hawke just run away without any cause(that scardy cat)
16)Inability to customize characters
17)No real enemy
18)And obviously hurried into the market.

Its a BAD game(worst of Bioware history). Lets AMEN

Can't seem to disagree with any of that, also for me the worst thing was the combat it was ridiculous, it was like watching anime or playing a jrpg it was too fast and over exaggerated, Dragon age 3 needs less Awesome Button.