78 réponses à ce sujet

[Anaeme]

Forbes asks if Bioware can be forgiven below...

http://www.forbes.co...nse-of-bioware/

Pretty good read

[Addai]

Clicked through to the comments. As of writing the guy had only just started DA2. *facepalm*

[Dominus]

As a BioWare fan, I'd never really put much thought beyond Mass Effect 3 - my fandom's been almost completely devoted to Mass Effect. I haven't chosen to condemn BioWare's game portfolio for all eternity; they'd have to produce something genuinely terrible to make me walk out the door. Hard to say with Dragon Age 3, as there's far too little information to go off of. I'd need at least some sort of video preview to get a good handle of where they're going and provide an objectively solid forecast. The only thing that can answer the fans' questions is time. And devs. They're not dead to me, but the pace needs to be picked up. ME3 wasn't a huge dissapointment, but the dissapointment was there. Chobot, EDI, Vega, and yes(in the interests of beating a dead horse), the ending.

C'est la vie.

Modifié par DominusVita, 09 août 2012 - 04:32 .

[Cutlass Jack]

I can't forgive the amount of hyperbole in that article.

[AtreiyaN7]

Cutlass Jack wrote...

I can't forgive the amount of hyperbole in that article.

I agree with the swashbuckler.

[slimgrin]

After reading several articles by this guy, I can only conclude he's remarkably naive. I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt - you know Forbes and all, but nope. IGN does better. And that's no compliment.

Modifié par slimgrin, 09 août 2012 - 04:44 .

[Addai]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Nope, logical thought isn't as much fun as a witch hunt.

Oh, good grief.  The histrionics are on both sides.

It's a simple matter of consumer and business.  If you've felt burned by a Bioware products, it's perfectly logical not only to complain but to be wary of more.

One thing the article misses is also the total disconnect shown more often than not when EA or Bioware marketing people open their mouths.

[Guy-b_Guyberton]

BW forgiven!? Nope, sorry, too late. EC could have been a turning point, but nope, it was just a bunch of nothing, but with a touch of spite i might add.
Anyway...
I may say these things now, but i do enjoy the taste of my own words. But i don't see any turning points in the future.

Modifié par Guy-b_Guyberton, 09 août 2012 - 08:32 .

[Tonymac]

Its an interesting read.

At least we agree with Erik that we will hold onto our pre-order money. I will also not trust game reviewers. Reviewers say what they are told to say when they are told to say it. That much has been proven.

As for Bioware....... well, I am not happy with ME3. I think that overall the story was complete trash. The endings were about on par, too. The EC helped a lot - but why did it have to come to that? Why are they not in touch with fans?

Why is the writing so bad? Even the MP is rife with idiocy, and bugs. Rather than fix the bugs, they swing the nerf bat like a special person trying to kill a dandelion seed.

I want Bioware to succeed. I want them to keep making really good games. I'm just not sure if its possible, given the current writers and loss of talent over the years.

[Rockworm503]

I don't hold grudges when it comes to games. If a company isn't satisfying me I move on. I don't complain about DA2 or ME3 anymore I just look elsewhere for my gaming enjoyment. Currently can't get enough of the Assassin's Creed series but should Ubisoft drop the ball with 3 or a future title my answer will be the same. They gotta want to be forgiven. Bioware is more interested in lying to us and insulting our intelligence. With EA's claws firmly in everything I no longer trust them nor do I care to.

Thats not a witch hunt its just how it is.

[saracen16]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Nope, logical thought isn't as much fun as a witch hunt.

Touche.

[Volus Warlord]

Eh.

"Growth pains?" Cmon now.. more like "croak pains."

Bioware will get worse before they get better (if they have a chance to get better).

Why? Cause none of the mishaps thus far are their fault, or so they seem to think. Best I can tell, they refuse to recognize their current trend is inadequate, so they'll just keep going downhill. No accountability, no learning, no "growth."

[RedArmyShogun]

Exused from the table? Sure.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

As Volus said, Bioware will learn and grow ... or fail and be annexed.

[C9316]

So just because they made good games in the past they should be excused for the piles of crap they've made today? Haha, no...

[billy the squid]

Should bioware be excused? Excused for what? The article is misleading, creation of a good game doesn't get them off the hook if they made several poor games. Nor do poor games ensure their condemnation to the trash pile of the game development industry.

I liked DAO and Knights of the Old Republic, ME1 was good story wise, ME2 was good in terms of some gameplay, but came up short on the story, although it wasn't horrific. ME3 was "Meh" and DA2 was crap.

Out of 6 games, 2 good, 2 okay and 2 poor ones does not instill a huge amount of trust. Certianly not enough to preorder nor would I give them the benefit of the doubt if that is what excusing them would entail. Frankly with Tw2, Skyrim, Boarderlands 2 Halo 4 and a number of other games around. Why would I consider purchasing their products again unless there is some level of drastic improvement, which may make me consider buying after a period of customer reviews and youtube vids. I put no stock in the reviews by magazines. I've dealt enough with the issues of legal ethics and backhand favours for favours to know how to get round the legal due dilligence rules. And I bet EA's legal department knows it too.

Modifié par billy the squid, 09 août 2012 - 02:21 .

[AngryFrozenWater]

Nah. If people want to vote with their wallet then it is fine by me. An article that wants to convince those people otherwise? That doesn't make sense, especially because it's their only weapon.

[Arch1eviathan]

I really enjoyed dragon age 2 so I might pre order the 3rd installment. I'm still waiting for the ME3 price to drop because I don't think the game is worth $60-ish.

[Druss99]

No, if it was just the fact that they released two dodgy games then I'd be willing to give them another chance, I mean I'm willing to give Square Enix another non-FF13 related chance. But it's the attitude that I can't forgive, the out right lies and acting like it's the customers problem that the key part of their biggest name product is a complete unfinished mess.

[Dragoonlordz]

Nothing to excuse them for. If they make a game you like the look of then buy it, if they make one you do not think will interest you then don't. Too many drama queens on the internet. If their products do not appeal to you then buy a different one. I think some of people on here spend way too much time waving placards saying the end is nigh when they are present here on these forums and probably when not on here too.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 09 août 2012 - 02:59 .