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[Urdnot Amenark]

Seival wrote...

Actually, BioWare stated that ME3 is the end of Mass Effect series. But they also said they will make new games in ME Universe.

...I hope for a new RPG Trilogy which events will take place long after ME3. Also, I hope this new RPG Trilogy will reflect events of ME Trilogy, including the final choice (ME3 save import).

I distinctly remember them saying Mass Effect 3 is the end of Shepard's story, not the series in itself.

Modifié par Urdnot Amenark, 11 août 2012 - 03:43 .

[ediskrad327]

so more than the half want a sequel game that will most likely make our choices pointless? and if so happens people will complain about them making our choices pointless? what logic is this? i'd rather they do something completely new prior the end of the Reaper War or nothing at all. and if they are true to their word thankfully they will only make prequels.

Modifié par ediskrad327, 11 août 2012 - 04:27 .

[cobra 28]

Maybe Mass Effect 4 Origins or just Mass Effect Origins

[Han Shot First]

ediskrad327 wrote...

so more than the half want a sequel game that will most likely make our choices pointless? and if so happens people will complain about them making our choices pointless? what logic is this? i'd rather they do something completely new prior the end of the Reaper War or nothing at all. and if they are true to their word thankfully they will only make prequels.

A prequel setting would be pointless in that you know how it ends before you even purchase the game, and because there are canon events that already take place after the player character's storyline, the protagonist would literally have no ability to shape the future of the galaxy. You'd be stuck with one ending and one ending only.

[ediskrad327]

Han Shot First wrote...

ediskrad327 wrote...

so more than the half want a sequel game that will most likely make our choices pointless? and if so happens people will complain about them making our choices pointless? what logic is this? i'd rather they do something completely new prior the end of the Reaper War or nothing at all. and if they are true to their word thankfully they will only make prequels.

A prequel setting would be pointless in that you know how it ends before you even purchase the game, and because there are canon events that already take place after the player character's storyline, the protagonist would literally have no ability to shape the future of the galaxy. You'd be stuck with one ending and one ending only.

they don't need to have someone shape the universe all the time and be "the savior of all" all the time. there are other routes. a more personal story with another character would be nice. heck they could have said character be of another race other than human if the player chooses. perhaps the universe would not be changed but it is more preferable to have your choices from the trilogy left untouched than make a sequel that would make all the choices in the trilogy even more pointless than the collector base choice...or Bioware could go the safe route and do nothing more and make a new IP. but we know that is not going to happen anytime soon.

[JShepppp]

Welcome back, A0170. Haven't seen you on the forums for a long time lol.

I personally would want a sequel. It'd probably be horribly difficult to do and might initially have some backlash (some things will ultimately have to be canonized) but in general I think it'd be cool to continue with the "current" universe and build upon what happened after whatever ending was chosen. They can't make three different games (the main endings are very different) but if they can find some way to make it work then I think it'd be ideal.

Modifié par JShepppp, 11 août 2012 - 06:15 .

[Snowman217]

Han Shot First wrote...

ediskrad327 wrote...

so more than the half want a sequel game that will most likely make our choices pointless? and if so happens people will complain about them making our choices pointless? what logic is this? i'd rather they do something completely new prior the end of the Reaper War or nothing at all. and if they are true to their word thankfully they will only make prequels.

A prequel setting would be pointless in that you know how it ends before you even purchase the game, and because there are canon events that already take place after the player character's storyline, the protagonist would literally have no ability to shape the future of the galaxy. You'd be stuck with one ending and one ending only.

We know how WWII ended and they made tons of games about that...not everyone is some hero of the galaxy, but they are still forced to make hard decisions. Just because it won't wholey shape the galaxy doesn't mean a compelling story can't be made. And I don't like the idea of a sequel. I could only see that being possible if they did a new "cycle," and that would basically be starting a new series. I think it either HAS to be a prequel or involve different characters during Shepard's timeline (ie. maybe play as a Turian during the invasion of Palaven).

[A0170]

JShepppp wrote...

Welcome back, A0170. Haven't seen you on the forums for a long time lol.

I personally would want a sequel. It'd probably be horribly difficult to do and might initially have some backlash (some things will ultimately have to be canonized) but in general I think it'd be cool to continue with the "current" universe and build upon what happened after whatever ending was chosen. They can't make three different games (the main endings are very different) but if they can find some way to make it work then I think it'd be ideal.

Glad to be back! Yeah I just finished some summer courses at my university. Anyway I totally agree with your post. I'd love to see a sequel if they can do it right.

[JShepppp]

A0170 wrote...

JShepppp wrote...

Welcome back, A0170. Haven't seen you on the forums for a long time lol.

I personally would want a sequel. It'd probably be horribly difficult to do and might initially have some backlash (some things will ultimately have to be canonized) but in general I think it'd be cool to continue with the "current" universe and build upon what happened after whatever ending was chosen. They can't make three different games (the main endings are very different) but if they can find some way to make it work then I think it'd be ideal.

Glad to be back! Yeah I just finished some summer courses at my university. Anyway I totally agree with your post. I'd love to see a sequel if they can do it right.

Well, glad to have you back lol

[Peranor]

I want the next Mass Effect game to be a miniature golf simulator. But only if it's set after ME3

[A0170]

anorling wrote...



I want the next Mass Effect game to be a miniature golf simulator. But only if it's set after ME3

[JeffZero]

Anything but an MMO or a nothing-at-all. Sequel >>>>> prequel in this case, though.

Re: the "but your choices would be pointless!" argument. That's how a lot of you feel about ME1->ME2 and ME2->ME3 as-is. BioWare picks a canon; runs with it. Tries to make one lengthy, meaty game this time where choices culminate at the end, and goes from there from hereon out.

Re: "but if BioWare chooses a canon, all my choices were pointless!" argument. That's how you already feel. What BioWare decides to run with is irrelevant. Whatever you chose during Shepard's story is how your universe played out.

Re: "but that doesn't make any sense! Whatever is onscreen is canon so I'll feel completely withdrawn!" argument. That's ridiculous.

Modifié par JeffZero, 16 août 2012 - 06:33 .

[LucasShark]

Non-existant, or a retcon of this whole farce.

[Buddy McFlurry]

Post-apocalyptic RPG from Tuchanka. Something like Fallout, but with better character. Just imagine wandering through krogan cities like you did in ME3.

[Richthestampede]

I do not have a perfect idea for another Mass Effect game, but I'll tell you what I strongly feel is a terrible idea:

1. My cousin wants a game wherein you play Garrus from his days at C-Sec all the way up to the end of Mass Effect 3, including his interactions with Shepard (which would appear as your own Shepard should you import your data). I think this is a terrible idea for about a hundred reasons, including the countless retcons that would be necessary. It would probably end up being something like FF7 Dirge of Cerberus, a carnival shooter with a supporting character everyone thought was super cool right up until he had his own game and not very much to offer on his own. It's also repetition of material; we know Garm and Tarak get killed by Shepard and Garrus, so attempts to deepen them or portray their demises with new action-packed cutscenes are ineffectual.

2. MASS EFFECT: SKYLIAN BLITZ or any combination of "prequel" attempts. It's lazy, ruins the mythology, and we already know how it ends, regardless of the thin characters and side-stories and "Oh, but you didn't know about this part!" angles you insert. Nothing against Halo: Reach if you like that sort of thing, but I don't, and it will not work for this series. Need I offer an explanation as to why a "prequel trilogy" is a bad idea?

3. Anything based upon the Mass Effect novels, which, aside from being poorly written (par for the course when you hire a game-writer to write prose; no offense to anyone who enjoys the stories themselves) have nothing new to offer. They already gypped us from being able to see Gillian Grayson in a game in a sad attempt to make Kai Leng more menacing (which as you know yielded disastrous results), and now that we won't be dealing with Leng anymore, no need to flog the dead horse any further.

4. Anything that takes place during the original Mass Effect trilogy. Regardless of how cool whatever you insert may be, there's still the stigma of knowing that the Reapers will still arrive and the universe's fate will still depend on Shepard pressing one of four buttons (P.S. I like the ending apart from the treatment of the Illusive Man).

5. A Mass Effect game in which you play as a fixed character or class. Similar to the Garrus game idea, this will end up tiring and linear, and the people who have come to love BioWare for the relative openness and choice-oriented play of a game like Mass Effect will have trepidations and gripes as soon as the first teaser trailer hits.

So, what do I think -would- work? Without hashing out every detail (because as I said, I don't have a completely comprehensive idea), I'll take a shot. These are just pieces of ideas.

1. A brand new game in the same universe, with a new character (that you create from scratch, just like now) that takes place long after the end of Mass Effect 3. Problems right off the bat: how do you account for the fate-of-the-galaxy decision the player made before, and if you choose not to, how do you justify the fact that the player had any choice at all if the future civilization is exactly the same no matter what?

2. An RPG in which, Dragon Age style, the player chooses a race, gender, and class, but instead of dwarf, elf, etc, you have human, asari, krogan, and so on, all with different abilities, and the spoken dialogue can refer to her/him as something all-encompassing (e.g. "Shepard," "Warden," etc). Problems: doing different voices for every race and gender.

3. A stylized game in which the player plays as several characters from the original ME trilogy in their best moments and most interesting story arcs (this goes against why my #5 above would be a terrible idea, but hear me out for a sec). Let's say there are five stories/characters in the game, that can be played in any order (similar to Suikoden 3). Let's say, hypothetically, it's Jack, Thane, Garrus, Mordin, and Ashley - characters with starkly different abilities and personalities. You'd get to play through story arcs that happened before and during the trilogy, but all things you didn't see, e.g. Jack's time on Pragia, her stories about the couple she partnered with, the Hanar "vandalism" incident, and so on, all the way up to being imprisoned at Purgatory and released by Shepard. All of the stories would end when the character met Shepard. Present it as more stylized, a la Mass Effect 2, and ramp it up to look like a multi-volume interactive comic book (but keep the graphical style and drama and general gameplay close to what we already know from the series). Problems: How do you END something like this? What's the climax? How do you do something new with these characters apart from giving the five of them a secret mission together that Shepard never knew about? Retcons rarely work organically.

Finally, barring everything I think would WORK, what I WANT, quite simply, is another experience like the originals. Fresh, based on the same mythology, with a fairer portrayal of women (not that ME was terrible about it, but less Miranda cheesecake, more clothing, and more realistic breasts for certain characters wouldn't hurt), romance options as open and ambitious as they were in ME1 and 3, and an adventure on just as great a scale (albeit without all the Cthulu/end-of-the-universe stuff; as awesome as it was, we need something different). As for how you make it congruent with the originals after the way we left Shepard's story and the state of the galaxy apart from staging the sequel in an alternate universe, I leave that to the folks who will actually be working on the game.

[JBPBRC]

Next Mass Effect game?

Dinosaurs or Blasto, there is no alternative.

DINOSAURS OR BLASTO, YOU HEAR ME??!

[Richthestampede]

JeffZero wrote...

Anything but an MMO or a nothing-at-all. Sequel >>>>> prequel in this case, though.

Re: the "but your choices would be pointless!" argument. That's how a lot of you feel about ME1->ME2 and ME2->ME3 as-is. BioWare picks a canon; runs with it. Tries to make one lengthy, meaty game this time where choices culminate at the end, and goes from there from hereon out.

Re: "but if BioWare chooses a canon, all my choices were pointless!" argument. That's how you already feel. What BioWare decides to run with is irrelevant. Whatever you chose during Shepard's story is how your universe played out.

Re: "but that doesn't make any sense! Whatever is onscreen is canon so I'll feel completely withdrawn!" argument. That's ridiculous.

Very good points.  I'll add MMO to my list - please, please, no MMO.  All of the ideas for a true sequel to the trilogy (i.e. a story that happens long after the ending of ME3) would work if BioWare chose one of the options as canon.  As far as I'm concerned, Destroy is the only choice - both for the sake of ending Shepard's story and for the fact that BioWare wouldn't have to animate and voice Reapers, a race that now seems pretty exclusive to the original ME story since they're the main focus from square one - but I'm sure others feel differently and that's cool.

[Tritium315]

Put it out of its misery.

[ZeCollectorDestroya]

If you voted for MMO, you're chipping away at my gaming heart. An FPS? Wouldn't mind it actually, if they still kept the amazing dialogue and Mass Effect-ness. Just the combat sucks in ME, nothing else except for the ending.

[saracen16]

Moar DLC would be better. There's so much potential in this universe, and so much potential with already established characters.

[spockjedi]

I would like to see a "reboot" option.

[Christianswe]

Make mass effect 4 a sequel. In My opinion, it would be pointless to make ME4 a prequel. The series doesn't have to end after ME3. Sure the reaper threat is gone, But that doesn't mean that all the races of the ME universe are going to hold hands and sing cumbaya forever, and no problem ever arises again.... And the reapers don't make Mass Effect, Mass Effect. It's the rich worlds, the races and the cultures. The dialog choices, the great story.

And since Shepard won't be in ME 4, it will probaly have a somewhat new focus. It doesn't have to be reapers, all the odds and Doom and gloom. That worked in Shepard's story, ME, ME 2 and ME 3. But just because the trilogy ends the way it does, doesn't mean there can't be new stories after those events. I would be great to be able to see the legacy, the inplact on the galaxy, after Shepard's choices. Even if ME 4 takes place 100 years after ME3. You could have references of previous events and the characters. Hell maybe Liara makes a cameo, since the Asari reach 1000. And she tells the new group about the battlefield, Shepard and the rebuilding after the reaper war.

And also, the galaxy is a Big place, many of the mass relays may be unexplored, many new planets.
Im no writer, but my point is that they could make new stories after ME3, a new situation, and it would feel good. And not like a stretch. The past of mass effect is so well documented, in the games logbook, novels and books. It feels like you know what you need to know about the history of the ME universe. I think people want to know what happens next in the timeline.
Trough different eyes. Prequels are alomst never good, and it wouldn't feel the same.
But i guess well see. But i strongly hope That mass effect 4 is a sequel.

[xtorma]

Make it so a new hero has to deal with the dark energy problem.

[Jadebaby]

Well with the recent news, I finally submitted my vote. Was going to go with 'let it rest' but I'm torn. I want a sequel but I want Shepard too. Anything less and I honestly can't see this franchise staying buoyant. Also, wow 10% more people would rather see it be put to rest than have a prequel lol.