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[AbsoluteApril]

Would you like to know more?
yes, I would!

Modifié par AbsoluteApril, 09 août 2012 - 08:48 .

[Demon560]

if starbrat had kept his mouth shut about their reasons for harvesting then yeah, then it would have been interesting to get more input about them, but seing as he blabbed it out all we might really get is who created them and an explanation as to why they're evil or where there solution to the Organic vs synthetics solution went wrong, but the extra missions might be somewhat enjoyable.

[Someone With Mass]

IsaacShep wrote...
How is the Catalysts and 3 choices the problem?

Because the Catalyst as a character was created for the sole purpose of explaining why the Reapers are doing what they were doing (seriously, without him, the reason could have just been an act of reproduction and mental expansion, which by me would have been more than enough) and the three choices were barely even hinted at being there in a physical form. Especially Synthesis.

They would have lost nothing on making the Catalyst a simple and silent device.

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 09 août 2012 - 08:45 .

[dreamgazer]

I didn't, but I do now.

[MegaSovereign]

Uncle Jo wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

That's a cop out. I wanted them to explain their motives/origins.

In all honesty did the explanation you got from the brat satisfied you ?

I didn't like the Catalyst giving me an ultimatum but I liked learning about the Reapers' motivations.

[AlexMBrennan]

Well, yeah, I don't particularly care about their backstory. Having said that, I think you can make it work both ways - either backstory, or no backstory... but you have to do it well. Godchild will probably be used as the definition of "not done well" in the future.

Edit to add: I think that Leviathan might be an attempt to covertly patch up the ending a bit more - specifically, the part where clinically-retarded!Shepard just takes Godchild's word for all these weird nonsensical idea being true. Introduction of these concepts earlier by a *trustworthy* expositor (Solar in BG2:ToB works, Starbrat in ME3 does not work) would significantly improve the last scene without *changing* (*shudder*) it.

Modifié par AlexMBrennan, 09 août 2012 - 08:49 .

[Someone With Mass]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

In the next DLC we'll learn that the Reapers we've been fighting are only a rogue faction of Reapers, and the majority are completely friendly beings that totally only butchered organics and committed genocide because of self-defense.

I see what you did there. 

[Terraforming2154]

I really did want to know for most of the series, but with the introduction of the Catalyst, I'm not sure I care anymore.

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

I do but I wanted it to happen in Mass Effect 3, not in DLC were you will only get a 5 minute explanation.

[Siansonea]

I actually do care about the origin story of the Reapers. Honestly. I still think Catalyst of full of shpit. It would be nice if Leviathan sheds more light on the "choice" Catalyst deigns to give Shepard. One can't help but feel that Catalyst is using Shepard as a patsy to achieve Synthesis, one of the most egregious abuses of power in any work of fiction ever.

[Andrew_S]

I do. I hope we learn enough about them that makes them truly sympathetic, so that when I blow them up, I can taste their sweet, sweet Reaper tears. It'll make blowing them up feel better, knowing they suffered.

I also support, "nuke the tube with a cain, it's the only way to be sure" DLC.

[AngryFrozenWater]

I am always very clear here that I don't trust the brat for a second. It would be interesting to see if that materializes further. Still, I cannot understand that BW forces Shepard to condone the brat's atrocities or commit another genocide. I am not sure about an ME4, because ME3 pretty much destroyed the franchise, but I have invested too much in the series to let it go in the final part. So maybe I'll buy that DLC.

Modifié par AngryFrozenWater, 09 août 2012 - 08:49 .

[weedyfun]

pffft i don't care.

why am i posting this? i should go.

[BatmanPWNS]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

In the next DLC we'll learn that the Reapers we've been fighting are only a rogue faction of Reapers, and the majority are completely friendly beings that totally only butchered organics and committed genocide because of self-defense.

*Slow clap*

[shepskisaac]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Because the Catalyst as a character was created for the sole purpose of explaining why the Reapers are doing what they were doing (seriously, without him, the reason could have just been an act of reproduction and mental expansion, which by me would have been more than enough)

And? What exactly is wrong with that? of course there are problems with the Catalyst (like some still unanswered question) and you may not like that he talks in a kiddy voice, but I don't see what is actually wrong with him at the core concept.

Someone With Mass wrote...

and the three choices were barely even hinted at being there in a physical form. Especially Synthesis.

No. Synthesis was very poorly forshadowed (if at all), but Destroy & Control were heavily forshadowed.

[Epic777]

IsaacShep wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Because the Catalyst as a character was created for the sole purpose of explaining why the Reapers are doing what they were doing (seriously, without him, the reason could have just been an act of reproduction and mental expansion, which by me would have been more than enough)

And? What exactly is wrong with that? of course there are problems with the Catalyst (like some still unanswered question) and you may not like that he talks in a kiddy voice, but I don't see what is actually wrong with him at the core concept.

Someone With Mass wrote...

and the three choices were barely even hinted at being there in a physical form. Especially Synthesis.

No. Synthesis was very poorly forshadowed (if at all), but Destroy & Control were heavily forshadowed.

Unfortunately the game pushes synthesis on you

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

OP needs a poll

[Uncle Jo]

MegaSovereign wrote...

Uncle Jo wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

That's a cop out. I wanted them to explain their motives/origins.

In all honesty did the explanation you got from the brat satisfied you ?

I didn't like the Catalyst giving me an ultimatum but I liked learning about the Reapers' motivations.

Fair enough. I personally regret that the reapers were suddenly turned into the good guys and the toys of the brat. In this case I'd have prefered to know nothing about them. Just that they were apex predators and never gave a damn about the other "inferior" races, be it synthetics or organics.

[Someone With Mass]

IsaacShep wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Because the Catalyst as a character was created for the sole purpose of explaining why the Reapers are doing what they were doing (seriously, without him, the reason could have just been an act of reproduction and mental expansion, which by me would have been more than enough)

And? What exactly is wrong with that? of course there are problems with the Catalyst (like some still unanswered question) and you may not like that he talks in a kiddy voice, but I don't see what is actually wrong with him at the core concept.

A very forced character with very little depth? It's pretty much a rule in good story telling. You really shouldn't introduce a character which is supposed to tell the protagonist a pretty important piece of information about his enemy in the very last act. It's disruptive.

[ThaDPG]

Uncle Jo wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

That's a cop out. I wanted them to explain their motives/origins.

In all honesty did the explanation you got from the brat satisfy you ?

Not at all

[sharkboy421]

Shalaska wrote...

In true lovecraftian style we should never have discovered their motives, as said in ME1 we would never be able to comprehend them. This attempt to explain them is some of the reason why the end is so bad.

My thoughts exactly.

[illyaillya]

Reapers is most important part for me in Mass Effect, so hell yes I wanna know their Origin.

[Someone With Mass]

Rubios wrote...

I obviously do.

What would I care about if not? Anderson's favourite cereals? Oh wait...

What do you play Mass Effect for? Banging imaginary aliens?

I certainly don't play it for five years only to be told that my enemy has been watching too much of Xzibit and is pretty much just committing the worst acts of crime in galactic history for their own amusement, since they're currently not saving anyone and I wouldn't call the current state the billions of joined organic minds are in as "living" since they don't have a free will or their own thoughts anymore.

[Zardoc]

IsaacShep wrote...

Shalaska wrote...

In true lovecraftian style we should never have discovered their motives, as said in ME1 we would never be able to comprehend them. This attempt to explain them is some of the reason why the end is so bad.

Reapers were never lovecraftian at all, not in ME3, not in ME1

They were most definitely in ME1.


@OP: No. Because that's actually good speculation.

Modifié par Zardoc, 09 août 2012 - 09:15 .