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[Terminus Echoes]

I honestly don't. Mystery is a good thing. If not knowing all the facts about the Reapers would have saved us from the ending we would have gotten, would anyone care?

They want to kill us all, therefore we need to stop them. Simple. No reason to fit in any "Synthetics will always kill organics" bullcrap, just blow them up and go home (or what's left of it).

[jeffyg93]

I do. I don't want my villains to be simple boogie monsters with no purpose or origin. That is not how the world works.

[OblivionDawn]

I've cared since ME1.

Can't wait for Leviathan.

[eye basher]

Jamie9 wrote...

I do. You don't want to know what motivates your greatest enemy?

Not really my job is to kill them not understand them.

[J.Random]

Rubios wrote...

Did everyone assume from the beginning that they were just evil and harvested civilizations for teh lulz?

No, they had to do it for procreation because they have no chicks. Human Reaper would be the first reaper female, and a cycle would be broken, but alas, you killed her. You monster.

Modifié par J.Random, 09 août 2012 - 09:45 .

[AlexPorto111]

jeffyg93 wrote...

I do. I don't want my villains to be simple boogie monsters with no purpose or origin. That is not how the world works.

[Ageless Face]

J.Random wrote...
No, they had to do it for procreation because they have no chicks. Human Reaper would be the first reaper female, and a cycle would be broken, but alas, you killed her. You monster.

How do you know Harbinger is not a female Reaper with a manly voice? 

[SNascimento]

I don't care about the reapers anymore... the were utterly destroyed in ME3. The next DLC can improve that though.

[F4H bandicoot]

HagarIshay wrote...

J.Random wrote...
No, they had to do it for procreation because they have no chicks. Human Reaper would be the first reaper female, and a cycle would be broken, but alas, you killed her. You monster.

How do you know Harbinger is not a female Reaper with a manly voice? 

Harbinger is missing the middle 'tentacle'..... Only Guy reapers have a middle tentacle.

Modifié par F4H bandicoot, 09 août 2012 - 09:56 .

[sharkboy421]

Rubios wrote...

*snip for space*

In ME we didn't really know about them, maybe you did but I never assumed they were something comparable to "gods" (in a lovecraftian sense, not divine). I actually assumed they were just machines rebelling against their creators (exactly like the Geth, but much more hardcore and a long time ago) and talking flashy to intimidate us.

In ME: Space Pokemon ME2 Legion gives you a full explanation of what the reapers are, so yeah... lol cosmic horror...

In ME3 it is exactly the same, they are infinitely more powerful and Shepard keeps winning imposible battles because he's Teh Shepard and bla bla bla... nothing different here, except for the people that now want a "conventional victory" after three whole games showing it is just not possible.

Reapers gonna reap, the end.

PS: Though I'm probably biased because I hate Lovecraft 

What did Legion say? I really don't remember him saying much beyond that they were "old machines". 

As to the second bolded point, I am probably misinterpreting what your saying but: exactly.  The Reapers reap, its what they do.  I liked it when that was their only explanation.  Perhaps Sovereign was just talking big to scare us saying we couldn't understand why.  But I really didn't need to know why, I just needed to stop them.  And when I did wonder why, I likened them to the Joker in The Dark Knight: "Some men just want to watch the world burn."  Though to be fair, if their explanation did not involve the catalyst in any way, I would be less hostile to it (but I still prefer not knowing).

And really? You don't like Lovecraft .  I admit his work is a little hard to get through.

[LtAdams2247 Origin]

When Sovereign hang up on me in ME1, I said (embarrasingly enough out loud) "the hell is wrong with you?!" Ever since then, yeah, I cared. I'm getting me this DLC.

[GeoFukari]

Truthfully, I don't know what to feel.

When ME1 came out, I felt a sort of Lovecraftian horror feel from the reapers. That is until Sovvie was killed. And even then, I believed that Sovvie may not be dead and may still come back.

In ME2, I spent the game wondering what the Reapers were like. When I found out how they were made, I was... horrified. Let me put it this way, they scared me more now than they did in ME1. And even though people say the Larva was a weak plot point, I would disagree. I liked it.

In these two games, the Reapers were built up to be terrifying. Their motives in ME1 were unclear. In ME2, the motives seemed to, in part, be reproduction. And truthfully, I can live with ME2's partial motive.

But with the explanation in ME3... I don't know. We do not have the luxury any longer to say: I wonder what their motivations were. We know. And now that we know, we need more information. Because we are humans. And thats what we do. Ask questions.

[JaceBelerin]

Meh. I care about their origin story, but I don't know how the DLC will handle it. If it mostly pew pew Horde mode and a bit of story I won't be buying. Needs to be lots of exposition.

[DirtySHISN0]

I cared right up until the end and still want to care, but ME3 is pushing so hard for me not to. I just don't think there will be any benefit of learning things about the reapers that wont be overshadowed by the ludicrous ending. Put it this way - there are very, very, few ways they can recover the reapers image from the ending controversy without what they have already said making it meaningless.

I also think that people are placing to much faith in the "will add new dialogue with catalyst" line.
It will just be another Leviathan→explain option on the dialogue wheel. It's very improbable that it will be anything else.

Pessimistic view maybe, but I'd rather be occasionally pleasantly surprised than consistently disappointed.

[3DandBeyond]

jeffyg93 wrote...

I do. I don't want my villains to be simple boogie monsters with no purpose or origin. That is not how the world works.

Watch the news.  Often there are very few intelligent reasons any human monsters have for doing what they do.  And even more often knowing their reasons does nothing to help make sense of it all.  Ted Bundy kept telling police and the prosecutors that if he was kept alive they might learn something from him.  It wasn't true because he couldn't even explain why he did what he did.

ME is comparable to Jaws, the shark movie.  The shark is eating people and you don't even see him for most of the game, but you can feel and hear and you know what he is doing.  It was amazing and sickening in the movie theater and you really didn't see too much until later in the movie.  You never needed to know why he was killing-you got the idea he was hungry, but that was a given.  You just wanted him dead.  You can maybe learn a lot later from reaper corpses. 

Modifié par 3DandBeyond, 09 août 2012 - 10:14 .

[Reever]

I´m one of those guys that like to know everything (as opposed to some who want some mysteries left...), so I really look forward to this DLC.

[someguy1231]

I certainly do care. I never bought the whole "You can never comprehend us" card because I think it's a writer cop-out to avoid giving villains a motive. It also sets people up for disappointment if they ever do reveal their motive (and was that ever true for ME3).

[JBONE29]

BatmanPWNS wrote...

I don't. I just wanna kill them. Could care less what their purpose or reason were. Mystery adds to the villain. Enemies you know nothing about are dangerous. Can you imagine Joker if we knew his true origin and purpose?

Yes I can, it was the first Tim Burton Batman.  BtAS was the best... actually we didn't know Joker's backstory in that one either.  We know what he told Harley Quinn, but that was probably a lie to get her to go crazy and help him out.

[HARBINGER SR-1]

I can't wait to find out more about the Reapers.

[Jackums]

IsaacShep wrote...

I do.

[Memnon]

I never cared. Like Vigil says, their motivations are unimportant; what is important is that we have to stop them. Having them an "alien, unknowable" unrelenting force was enough for me. I dislike it when writers try too hard to find a "clever" explanation for something which requires none (e.g. midichlorians)

Modifié par Stornskar, 09 août 2012 - 10:21 .

[Yuanrang]

Well I really want to know WHY they are hellbent on systematically destroying sentient life of a certain technological advancement, time and time again.

I don't like a villain just being a villain because he's evil, I like villains because I know enough to either love, hate or understand them.

[themikefest]

I care though I believe we still won't get the whole story. they will have to make me4 to explain everything in great detail