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#51
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upinya slayin wrote...

people think they are great players and can jump into any difficulty with ease cause they beat SP and they can't.


Yes, I have been in lobbies with people who are just about to be kicked that use "But I beat SP on Insanity!" as reasoning why they deserve to play on Gold with their crappy class/loadout... smh

Modifié par MysticH, 09 août 2012 - 09:23 .


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Halo Quea

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If noobs would listen (and bring mics to the lobby), we could steer them to classes that aren't so dependent on high level weapons.

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N7 Spectre525 wrote...

Im npt a low level player and Im offended by your post. Who are you or anyone to tell someone what level they're supposed to be on? If its so bad make some friends and host private matches...problem solved. All this elite bull**** from a multiplayer game that isn't even PvP blows my mind.


i agree that they should be allowed to try what they want, but i also think that they should be curteous to other online folks  by not going into a level where they are 80k less then 3rd place. Like i said i'm more then happy to play with 2 low level players if i have another good friend with me but there is no point to do it with 3 of them as i will more then likely fail while having 4-5 times their score. its just not that fun for me to play by myself every wave while they watch. Also i don't want to do a 45 minute gold run unless i'm playing around doing somehting stupid like all locusts or something.

You shouldn't get mad at low leevls in gold the same way that the low levels shouldn't get mad about ebing kicked from somehting they don't belong in. everyone needs to understand their limits. Just cause i would like to play in the NFL doens't mean i'm entitled to walk into camp and be allowed to play on a team. You have to be an elite athelte to do that and work your way up from high school to college to the pro's. I don't belong in the NFL and i know this hence i don't bother to waste the teams time. People who haven't evn played 1 bronze don't belong in gold or platinum.

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Yosuke wrote...

If they have a leveled character, I normally wouldn't mind. What makes me dislike these players is that 80 percent of them quit out during the match after dying repeatedly. I don't mind players going for a challenge, but I hate people who quit halfway through.


This i agree with. If the players were nice enough to not kick someone they were 90% sure would fail you owe it to them to stick it out even if your sucking. guess what we all knew you would suck but at least try and don't quit on us. we didn't quit on you. someitmes i switch it to private after a random comes in so that if me or a firend gets EA diconnect during the game we can get back in w/o losing our psot and keep our money so we play down a player the rest of the way with no hopes of a 4th. eyah gold sin't tough with 3 people but thats not teh point

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MysticH wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

people think they are great players and can jump into any difficulty with ease cause they beat SP and they can't.


Yes, I have been in lobbies with people who are just about to be kicked that use "But I beat SP on Insanity!" as reasoning why they deserve to play on Gold with their crappy class/loadout... smh


I espicially like to give them a chance to show them how wrong they are. like i said i just need 1 other good person with me and the other 2 don't matter anyway.

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Not the most kitted out player here, but I kinda agree with the OP. The lower difficulties are there for a reason, don't be afraid to use them. Hell, I could probably squeeze by in gold matches with a decent team, but I'd unquestionably be the weak link and that's no good for me or my team mates. Frankly, I have more fun being useful in Silver, or killing all the things in bronze going for that "survived 10 waves" medal with the team.

Now, if the ****** match making system would kindly stop throwing me into a gold match in progress when I search for silver or bronze, that'd just be plain nice...

Modifié par Larg_Kellein, 09 août 2012 - 09:32 .


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True Story regarding lower level players.

N7 54, Quarian Male Engineer comes into a U/U/G lobby during weekend gold extract Op

He uses a Harrier 2

Since its a weekend Operation we let him stay... He then outscored a N7 2500+ by almost 10K in a D/C/G game

Me... snickering like an idiot as the 2500+ guy rages in post game lobby.

Modifié par Dama733, 09 août 2012 - 09:32 .


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I don't think the people you're talking about are going to be on these forums.

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There should be an N7 cap for the lobbies maybe? Tired of seeing <100 N7 ratings in Platinum lobbies with only a rank 1 Pistol gear on and no equipment. Speaking of lobbies BW stop putting me the middle of a game w/o asking me if I want to joined said game after spectating, or worse yet I have still been sent to bronze/silver when que'ing for gold and plat.And I'm also tired of getting kicked to the main menu when joining a friends game.

....sorry for my rant but I'm also not sorry.

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InTheZone wrote...

I don't care what level you are, I'll play for the fun. >:( **** YEAH


I play for the fun of it too...  I try the Gold level once a night or so, just to get some credits before I head to bed, IF I have some good gear with me...  If not, I stick to silver and Bronze, and I am a level 500+ N7...  I am not that great at the game, but I do enjoy it and will promote most of my characters at Level 20 after an OP Weekend, just to rebuild...  Except my Geth Engineer...  He is what I use to get those credits...  Posted Image

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xtorma wrote...

Back of the bus noobs!


In high school and on city buses the back of the bus is where you want to sit.:?

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UEG Donkey wrote...

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Honestly, i think anybody below a class level 18 should not be going into gold/plat lobbies. Sure, you can argue they are skilled all you want, but the truth is they will preform better at level 18-20 than level 8. I don't make my lobbies so you can level up. I make them to get credits and i keep my characters at 20 to play at my best with randoms. I expect the same. Play with friends if you want to level up in gold because i'm not here to do that for somebody i don't even know.


Seriously?  To each his own but I've seen a level 1 top the scoreboard and I've topped it with randoms with a level 4.  I can run a level 4 Turian Soldier with a Hurricane and AP ammo IV, SMG III, Cyclonic Modulator, and Stronghold Gear that is better than 90% of the people playing gold. 


And you think people like that are in the majority on PS3? You would STILL do better at level 20 under those same conditions. 

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bobnice31 wrote...

Buddy, even the lower skilled players or beginners have paid $60 to own this game and all of its features. No one has the right to command anyone around. They paid for it and they can play any difficulty they want without restriction from you or anyone else. It might be wise for you to strictly play with your friends in private matches as you wont have that problem any longer.

This is a logical fallacy, the "I paid for the game and can play it anyway I want" argument is only relevent in singleplayer. Once you go multiplayer your right to enjoy the game does NOT override the rights of other players to enjoy the game. Teams are made up of 4 players and heres the thing, 1 player does not have the right to ruin the fun of 3 other players, so if those three other players feel that your lvl 8 soldier with an avenger 3 is going to drag down the enjoyment of the game for them, they have every right to boot your ass from their lobby and tell you to go back to bronze where you most likely belong.

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Haha, I'm sorry but I just read the thread title and imagined Moka from Rosario + Vampire saying it while delivering one of her famous kicks to the face.  :P


Indeed it would be nice for people to stick to what level they find functional, but some play higher levels to get better at them.  Those people should be helped because at some point they could become great players.
On the opposite side of the spectrum there are those players who are not ready for a certain difficulty and make mistakes, but never learn from them.  They're the ones that I'd have a problem with.

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I hate when its apparent a noob has joined you on gold with a mantis and a locust for a weapon and there is one guy who just won't kick them. I don't mind if it's someone who has some decent weapons (like an evisorator), but if you ever bring the locust to my matches you're going to get a [X].

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Dama733 wrote...

True Story regarding lower level players.

N7 54, Quarian Male Engineer comes into a U/U/G lobby during weekend gold extract Op

He uses a Harrier 2

Since its a weekend Operation we let him stay... He then outscored a N7 2500+ by almost 10K in a D/C/G game

Me... snickering like an idiot as the 2500+ guy rages in post game lobby.


N7 means nothing. i have a guy on my list over 2k who sucks lol.

true story  me and my friend in an U/U/G lobby 2 randoms come in an N71 soldeir with mantis and predator 1 and an N7 700 somehting with a good layout. we figure the 700 soemhting will at least help out. we play the game and

me and my friend around 180K
N7 1 like 25k
N7 700 like 20k

that guy was terrible

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N7 Spectre525 wrote...

Im npt a low level player and Im offended by your post. Who are you or anyone to tell someone what level they're supposed to be on? If its so bad make some friends and host private matches...problem solved. All this elite bull**** from a multiplayer game that isn't even PvP blows my mind.


I'm not carrying your butt if you're useless. Go bleed out for all I care.

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The other day I got dropped into Wave 1 of an ongoing Gold game. By wave three, it was pretty clear my teammates were a bit..lost. We wiped on the objective (Escort), accept one dude who was hiding somewhere in the back lived a whole 30 seconds longer than teh rest of us.

Said guy then went on to start scolding the group, telling them how his righteous hiding abilities should have made it easy enough for us to get the job done. When we get back to the lobby, two things became apparent.

One, the highest rank in the group was about 160. Two, this elite player was rank 24, and quite pleased with himself. He made a big argument about how he had "Beaten" someone (me) ranked 4900 in a Gold match. Not on the scoreboard, mind, not by a longshot. He had beaten me and the rest of the team by being the last to die...and by an impressive 30 seconds or so.

I couldn't even begin to form a response to all the things I had just seen. I've carried low levels before, but to have one think that a co-op objective based multiplayer is somehow Deathmatch mode was something new altogether.

Easily the worst 'noob' experience I've had.

But on the flipside, I've had folks with ranks below 200 do excellent work on Gold. Some folks just seem to get the hang of things faster than others, so rank isn't an incredibly accurate indicator of where a player belongs (especially since some folks don't even bother with promotions).

I think folks should learn the ropes thoroughly in Bronze and Silver before moving up, just as I and a lot of people have, but I'm not surprised they don't. Loot is always a juicy motivator, and if you can get someone to carry you through Gold or even Platinum, you'll get it that much faster.

That's what the Kick option is for.

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Conduit0 wrote...

bobnice31 wrote...

Buddy, even the lower skilled players or beginners have paid $60 to own this game and all of its features. No one has the right to command anyone around. They paid for it and they can play any difficulty they want without restriction from you or anyone else. It might be wise for you to strictly play with your friends in private matches as you wont have that problem any longer.

This is a logical fallacy, the "I paid for the game and can play it anyway I want" argument is only relevent in singleplayer. Once you go multiplayer your right to enjoy the game does NOT override the rights of other players to enjoy the game. Teams are made up of 4 players and heres the thing, 1 player does not have the right to ruin the fun of 3 other players, so if those three other players feel that your lvl 8 soldier with an avenger 3 is going to drag down the enjoyment of the game for them, they have every right to boot your ass from their lobby and tell you to go back to bronze where you most likely belong.


once you play MP your binded to the EULA and you give up your rights and must play within the rules that EA and BW has set up for online play. breaking those rules result in credit wipe, banning, suspension etc 1 player ruining the fun of 3 becuase he paid for the game can probably be condiered griefing which is a tier 3 offense

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WMcAlister wrote...

The other day I got dropped into Wave 1 of an ongoing Gold game. By wave three, it was pretty clear my teammates were a bit..lost. We wiped on the objective (Escort), accept one dude who was hiding somewhere in the back lived a whole 30 seconds longer than teh rest of us.

Said guy then went on to start scolding the group, telling them how his righteous hiding abilities should have made it easy enough for us to get the job done. When we get back to the lobby, two things became apparent.

One, the highest rank in the group was about 160. Two, this elite player was rank 24, and quite pleased with himself. He made a big argument about how he had "Beaten" someone (me) ranked 4900 in a Gold match. Not on the scoreboard, mind, not by a longshot. He had beaten me and the rest of the team by being the last to die...and by an impressive 30 seconds or so.

I couldn't even begin to form a response to all the things I had just seen. I've carried low levels before, but to have one think that a co-op objective based multiplayer is somehow Deathmatch mode was something new altogether.

Easily the worst 'noob' experience I've had.

But on the flipside, I've had folks with ranks below 200 do excellent work on Gold. Some folks just seem to get the hang of things faster than others, so rank isn't an incredibly accurate indicator of where a player belongs (especially since some folks don't even bother with promotions).

I think folks should learn the ropes thoroughly in Bronze and Silver before moving up, just as I and a lot of people have, but I'm not surprised they don't. Loot is always a juicy motivator, and if you can get someone to carry you through Gold or even Platinum, you'll get it that much faster.

That's what the Kick option is for.


one of the people on my friends list talked his friend into getting the game and i 've been playing with him since he was like a level N7 of 20 something on gold and he was better at the level then alot of the high N7 randoms. he had **** weapons but knew how to use his adepts perfectly and would just BE everything. he carried his weight for sure form the start.

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Ppl put to much trust in N7 and not loadout. Like that thread about that guy who kicked stardusk for only being N7 120 lol if only that guy knew. Hell I'm 12,000 and stardusk is better.then me and there is no shame in that.

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Damion_ST wrote...

InTheZone wrote...

I don't care what level you are, I'll play for the fun. >:( **** YEAH


I play for the fun of it too...  I try the Gold level once a night or so, just to get some credits before I head to bed, IF I have some good gear with me...  If not, I stick to silver and Bronze, and I am a level 500+ N7...  I am not that great at the game, but I do enjoy it and will promote most of my characters at Level 20 after an OP Weekend, just to rebuild...  Except my Geth Engineer...  He is what I use to get those credits...  Posted Image

 

Reapers on gold...problematic :P 

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I can top the score sheet on gold at level 1, though I have plenty of good gear. I don't mind carrying noobs on gold, especially when my class is a low level. (That's really the only time I play below Platinum.)

The real problem is that the default setting for multiplayer often sends new players to Gold or Platinum. I do think they should have gated entry for higher difficulty levels. It would also serve to give reason to increase your N7 level.

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*Looks at OP's Manifest*

LOL'S!!!! You probably shouldn't be accusing anyone of being new to the game. :P

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Yes, OP. You're not being smug but you chose the most tactless and condescending wording possible "know your place" in the title.

Please.