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[fox99]

I only wanted to post my appreciation of this masterpiece, that Dragon Age: Origins is - and thank Bioware, and all the people involved, for their truely very good work!

My Game:
- Dragon Age: Origins - Ultimate Editon patched to v1.05 (all content activated)
- maxed out graphic settings on 1920x1080
- Origins-campagne playing a noble human, dual-weapon warrior [first and only campagne so far]
- nightmare-difficulty (from the start off; it's a nice, well-balanced difficulty so far)
- current progress: Ostagar after Korcari Wilds


I recently purchased the Ultimate Edition (incl. Awakening etc.) and am currently playing a noble human (dual-weapon) warrior. I'm not that far into the game yet, but for me this is the best fantasy RPG I've played in many, many years - most likely even the best ever.
I'm having a great experience... started off on nightmare-difficulty from the start and it's a pure joy using the tactical possibilites Dragon Age offers - and the 'DA-experience' as a whole is simply great.

The plot, the characters, the dialogues, the cinematic cutscenes, the expressions, the stats-system, the tactical battles... and many more aspects are top-notch (and all in all the best I've ever seen in a fantasy RPG)!

There may be some minor issues... The only ones that I noticed so far, are low detail environment textures and minor view-angle issues (during battles). But that's about it. Though as I don't care for high-end graphics that much, these aren't bothering me personally at all. Oh... perhaps a difficulty beyond 'nightmare' would be neat?! (note: it's a very good feature to be able to adjust the difficulty setting anytime during an ongoing campagne; that's something all games should have - as I might be forced to shift down to 'hard' later on?)

And the characters feel so believable and "true"/"real". Some of the dialogues made me chuckle (eg. some of Alistair's remarks), while all others are simply very well-written and far from the simplistic (and often incoherent) stuff other games present.
There's a nice, coherent flow to the whole storyline in Origins and it's protagonists, that takes a grip on me while playing this masterpiece.

Sadly I read, and saw in video-reviews, that DA2 isn't quite as good and more 'arcade-like' (that's why I'll most likely not buy/play it). But perhaps the next Bioware fantasy RPG will be better? Perhaps I'll install Baldurs' Gate I+II, which I bought some time ago and haven't played yet? ...I simply wanted to get a copy of the highly praised BG-saga before it's out of print, so to say. Anyhow...

To cut it short: Thanks Bioware! Thanks to all folks that made this game!


PS: If this post is in the wrong sub-forum or somehow inappropriate, please delete, edit or move it!

Modifié par fox99, 09 août 2012 - 08:37 .

[caradoc2000]

It is indeed a great game, have fun with it.

[Scarlet Rabbi]

Dragon Age Origins is a bonafide masterpiece.

Avoid the plague that is the sequel if you wish this wonderful, heart-tugging lore to remain unstained in your view. Since you have the ultimate edition, this is easily accomplished. You have enough brilliant content there to keep you satisfied for...years, really.

[caradoc2000]

DA2 is a good game, it just has a drastically different gameplay style then DAO.

[Scarlet Rabbi]

Dragon Age II bears the Dragon Age name, and the weight of that name crushes that cinematic action game to dust. But, even when viewed in its own light (which is really reaching, a sequel is meant to be compared to what came before it) it's still a bad game. My opinion, of course. Areas are reused shamlessly, fetch-quests rule the game, choice literally doesn't matter at all, enemy encounters are a disgrace and I still can't figure out why they even let you import your Origins save in the first place. For a couple of terrible cameos, terrible lines and a 30 second Harrowmont quest? DA2 threw the franchise into a muddy ditch that DA3 is gonna have a hell of a time clawing out of. But whatever, not the thread topic.

[Kaiser Shepard]

Glad to hear you're enjoying it, TC, but please do heed the good Rabbi's words: if you really value both the experience and memories that Origins brings with it, or brought with it by the time you're done, stay clear of the abomination that is DA2.

Origins, and by extension Awakening and the other dlc as well, provides a solid enough standalone experience that you could easily go back to and replay from the perspective of a totally different character, and is able you feel like your character makes a really makes a difference in the world. The sequel, however, not only is extremely limiting on its own, but retcons a LOT of stuff you can make happen in Origins/Awakening as well.

[fox99]

@caradoc2000:
Thanks for your feedback.
"DA2 is a good game, it just has a drastically different gameplay style then DAO." That's what I fear. I've read many reviews and seen a few LP's for DA:O and DA2 - and have played DA:O (which is the best classical RPG I've played so far) for some while now.
It's fine if EA/Bioware want to go into "total" mainstream (ie: more casual, more easy, more graphics"porn", more aiming at 15-year-old /// less depth, less story, less atmosphere etc.).
I don't mind mainstream games - DA:O is mainstream after all - but the overall levelling down by major publishers to a "shooter-playstation-easy/instant-playing"-mash kind of game nowadays is hideous.
I'll wont buy DA2! As simple as that... I'm really enjoying DA:O (UE), and it's such an awesome game - but DA2.. no thanks! I'll rather buy Legend of Grimrock or install Bioware's own Baldur's Gate I+II...


@Scarlet Rabbi & Kaiser Shepard:
Thanks for your feedback.
I've been playing a dual-weapon warrior for a few hours now and I'm enjoying DA:O very much so far. But even so, the idea of playing a mage or dwarvish commoner or elfish commoner is very compelling...

Your statements on DA2 are most welcome. They add to what I've read, heard and seen of DA2. DA:O being such a good game; it's sad to see DA2 being such a deadbeat.


PS: @BIOWARE:

I'll instantly buy DA3, if it's as good as DA:O. If it's more like DA2, I'll go somewhere else.

[BerrySenpai90]

Yeah I have had a chance on playing this on my PS3 and the game was so awesome. Thank you Bioware.

[mousestalker]

Do try the other origins, if only for the beginning bits. They are all quite good (even though some are preferred above others by most players (For example, most people think the female city elf origin plays better than the male city elf origin)).

{Good discussion about the differing origins here. Warning: Loads of spoilers.}

Modifié par mousestalker, 13 août 2012 - 06:56 .

[Lemina Ausa]

I enjoyed DA: O a great deal too, glad to see you like it! However, I always get side tracked to play another origin when I go into awakenings - although its partly because of all the quest and game breaking bugs I've read about it that dampens my enthusiasm for awakenings.

Now, I did play DA2, and while I did get bored of it by act 3, I don't think its as bad as what people say - its definitely worse than DA: O for me, but its "ok"

[Jerrybnsn]

A toast to Dragon Age: Origins! There'll never be another game like it. {heavy sigh}

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

Definitely try the other Origins just for their start stories You may want to do the City Elf one twice, as there's a significant difference between the male and female version.

[Arthur Cousland]

I found DA2 to be fun, but that probably had a lot to do with the fact that I enjoy combat in rpgs. The game was rushed, and it shows all over the place.

DA: Origins is definitely a gem, and many people who played it when the game first came out still play it, including myself. I also recommend playing as all of the origin stories, even if you don't continue them past Ostagar. I think I've had the most fun being a castless dwarf, but being a mage is also fun.

While Awakening has some bugs, most of them have been patched, and the ones that remain can be worked around. I like playing through it as the Arl of Amaranthine and the Warden Commander, though the expansion could have been a bit longer.

[fox99]

Thanks for all the replies folks!

Before I chose the noble human (dual-weapon) warrior I'm playing atm, I was heavily considering to play the noble/common dwarf or a rogue city elf ... or a mage.

After this current DA:O-campaing I'll probably be playing Awakening and some of the other (mini-)campaigns. And after that DA:O again with one of the above mentioned characters.

And again, thanks for all the feedback and ideas guys/girls. And thanks, Bioware!

Regards!

[emeraldtrader]

I love the human noble story, but really enjoyed the city elf (female). my fist play though was as a mage. that was a mistake for me, only because my skills as a gamer are atrocious and i struggled terribly. A few months later (playing on both Mac and PC version, and completed 8 different story lines) and I believe I am now at lest one step above a N00b, though I am still a terrible warrior.

The best part is that each character has what I like to think of as "their moment of truth" that they come to in their storyline. can't say more then that.
I have just started my fist play though as a male H.N. this ought to be interesting

Not thrilled with DA2, but giving it a chance (although begrudgingly)

[Swordfishtrombone]

DA:O is definitely one of the best games Bioware has made. Really great experience, and awesome replay value. My favorite of the origins is the dwarven commoner, though (female) city elf is great too, and all of the origins have things going for them.

Installing and playing the BG series is definitely recommended - by what you write, I get that you enjoy the sort of tactical gameplay which the BG series excells at.

Though be aware that there are many fans of BG, who did NOT like BG1, but loved BG2 and it's expansion. (I'm one of those people). I wanted to like BG1, as I saw it's potential, but just found it tedious, for many reasons. All the complaints I had with it were addressed, and then some, in BG2, which I still consider the finest cRPG I've played.

[Lemina Ausa]

Arthur Cousland wrote...

While Awakening has some bugs, most of them have been patched, and the ones that remain can be worked around. I like playing through it as the Arl of Amaranthine and the Warden Commander, though the expansion could have been a bit longer.

The thing I didn't like was having to work around them to not get awakenings to bug (like having to get sigrun before doing the law and order quest in order not to get her personal quest bugging, having to get velenna before all other companions to not get her joining quest bugged, etc). According to the wiki, there are still a ton of bugs remaining, and unlike origins there are no player fixpacks for quest bugs for awakenings. I would prefer to have the freedom of playing the game without having to constantly check the wiki to see if doing A would bug B, which is one of the reasons I never got really far in awakenings.

Modifié par Lemina Ausa, 16 août 2012 - 02:59 .

[fox99]

Hmm... is DA:Awakening also bugged for the Ultimate Edition v1.05?

[mousestalker]

The Silverite Mine bug still occurs for some people. There is an unofficial fix here and a discussion of work-arounds here.

[Lemina Ausa]

http://dragonage.wik...ugs_(Awakening)

Here's a list of awakening bugs. I don't think having the UE makes any difference, since you're able to patch to 1.05 on a non UE version anyway. I have UE, and generally refer to the wiki often to make sure I don't get quest bugs in awakenings.

[Arthur Cousland]

No, the player shouldn't have to work around the bugs in Awakening, but I still was able to have fun with the expansion, regardless.

As for the Silverite Mines bug, just unequip any items that are restricted to a specific character or class, as that prevents the ghouls from being able to equip them, and thus they are lost. Arcane Warriors with weapons and armor are the only ones that have to go in naked, as their mage ghoul doesn't have combat magic. Most of my characters can go in fully equipped without losing anything.

I just recruit Sigrun, Velanna, then Justice. It's not that big of a deal to put Law and Order off until later.

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

Best way to get around the bugs in Awakening is to be aware of them. And always make a hard save before entering the Silverite mines.

[BevH]

fox99 wrote...

Hmm... is DA:Awakening also bugged for the Ultimate Edition v1.05?

Yes, it's stilled bugged in the Ultimate Edition. Just do as Shadow suggests and make a separate save before going into the Silverite Mines.

And you'll definitely want to play the Baldur's Gate series. I'm among those that liked BG2 better, but you'll want to play BG1 first if only to import the character you make there into BG2 (although it's not necessary). Doing that does add to the story continuity.

[Lemina Ausa]

Arthur Cousland wrote...

No, the player shouldn't have to work around the bugs in Awakening, but I still was able to have fun with the expansion, regardless.

I just recruit Sigrun, Velanna, then Justice. It's not that big of a deal to put Law and Order off until later.

Most players, I think, would do law and order first simply because you go to amaernthine after vigil's keep generally and there's a big "!" on top of the constable's head. If it weren't for the wiki I would have done that. Its not a big deal, just annoying. It also shows how rushed awakenings was, with all the bugs in it.

Then there's the issue with odgren's approval degeneration with gifts carried over from origins, which luckily can be fixed by consoling in the approval that was supposed to be added - annoying.

Modifié par Lemina Ausa, 17 août 2012 - 03:52 .

[LucidlyInsane]

Glad you're enjoying DA:O - I only discovered it last year, and it was a breath of fresh air after the kind of stuff I'd been playing. It also introduced me to proper, head-in-the-game roleplaying, which was very new to me at the time.

Gotta say, my favourite origin is the mage - though some people find parts of it boring (I'm not keen on about ten minutes running round finding stuff for a friend... well, spoilers), I love how you get to experience the Fade in a different light, you get the conflict with the Chantry, and you get more context on some stuff that happens in Redcliffe. It really is a good way to get a whole new point of view, and ties in well with the overarching story of Dragon Age as a series so far. It really changes how you see the world itself and how you play, and if you hate the staff - hell, I did - you can go the Arcane Warrior route and have the best of both worlds.

Is the Silverite Mines bug something that only occurs on PC? (Saying this as someone that's never encountered it.)