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[AresKeith]

IDK, midichlorians kinda killed the force

Modifié par AresKeith, 10 août 2012 - 02:16 .

[KiraTsukasa]

LegacyOfTheAsh wrote...

Pretty sure George Lucas stated a while back that force powers don't work outside of the Star Wars Universe. Then again I heard this ooffhand like 8 years ago so...

George Lucas also created Jar Jar Binks.

[ParkBom]

CrutchCricket wrote...

JusticarFlareon wrote...
The same could be said for biotics, at least that Force-users have no defense to biotics. The Force is that kind of energy only to the universe of SW no ME so biotics would be unaffected. The Force has weaknesses and can be destroyed unlike biotics. (Unless you kill all biotics but same could be said with Force-users)

Err... what?

Did you even see Star Wars? I was under the impression all involved in this discussion at least knew what they were talking about.

In any case, you must allow the rules of both universes (so long as they don't contradict) otherwise the discussion is meaningless. As far as I can tell, they don't contradict so both apply.

Now as to biotics, only some would not be counterable by the Force. Things like warp, reave, dark channel, things that apparently work at the subatomic level (although with practice a Sith Lord could learn to at least partially nullify these effects). More kinetic based ones like throw, pull and singularity could be resisted because they're kinetic based. Biotic explosions could probably not be countered. Though I doubt there'd be enough time to cast them.

KotOR 2, Kreia found a way to ultimately destroy the Force using "echoes" in the Force. She was stopped but still, the way to kill it is still there. I don't really know a lot about SW (Games and movies)

[LegacyOfTheAsh]

CrutchCricket wrote...

LegacyOfTheAsh wrote...

Pretty sure George Lucas stated a while back that force powers don't work outside of the Star Wars Universe.

For the sake of discussion you must allow the rules and context of both sides of a vs discussion to apply. If they can't or you won't, the discussion is meaningless.

Yes I know. I was just screwing around.

[its THAT guy]

Annihilation field > Anything the force scrubs can throw at biotic users. Also, N7 Biotic users can teleport. I don't think those jedi folks can do THAT now, can they?

[Korrozive]

LegacyOfTheAsh wrote...

Pretty sure George Lucas stated a while back that force powers don't work outside of the Star Wars Universe. Then again I heard this ooffhand like 8 years ago so...

Pretty sure eezo doesn't exist outside of ME Universe as well.

[K_Os2]

Why's this thread in multiplayer?

[Korrozive]

its THAT guy wrote...

Annihilation field > Anything the force scrubs can throw at biotic users. Also, N7 Biotic users can teleport. I don't think those jedi folks can do THAT now, can they?

Whew, easier. Mind trick -> "Would you kindly teleport into that wall?" -> ??? -> Profit.

[LegacyOfTheAsh]

K_Os2 wrote...

Why's this thread in multiplayer?

Good question actually.

[its THAT guy]

Korrozive wrote...

its THAT guy wrote...

Annihilation field > Anything the force scrubs can throw at biotic users. Also, N7 Biotic users can teleport. I don't think those jedi folks can do THAT now, can they?

Whew, easier. Mind trick -> "Would you kindly teleport into that wall?" -> ??? -> Profit.

HA! But we Bitoic users have dominate, which means.... no one wins on the mind control front.

Foolish Jedi.

[ParkBom]

Korrozive wrote...

its THAT guy wrote...

Annihilation field > Anything the force scrubs can throw at biotic users. Also, N7 Biotic users can teleport. I don't think those jedi folks can do THAT now, can they?

Whew, easier. Mind trick -> "Would you kindly teleport into that wall?" -> ??? -> Profit.

Mind Trick can be resisted by those with high willpower, like N7 agents.

[Strict31]

JusticarFlareon wrote...

TazMonkey2011 wrote...

force choke

Stasis+Throw

Good luck hitting successfully with that. I mean, you might catch one Force User with Stasis Or Dark Channel, or Reave. But at the best of times, plain old Assault Troopers can dodge biotic powers without even looking. That's not even a power they're supposed to have, but they can do it. So how much easier would it be for a Force User to do it, considering they can move at super-speeds.

Of course, if the Jedi/Sith had to follow Bioware's rules, Force Choke would do little more than give the enemy a sore throat. Force Lightning might have a 45% chance to stagger a target. And Telekinesis would be able to lift a teacup (upgraded to a teapot at rank 6).

Probably a good thing that lightsabers have been disallowed. Of course, everybody in the Old Republic wearing sh*t made out of cortosis weave pretty much nerfed lightsabers. So in the end, Jar Jar and Conrad win.

[Pyth the Bull]

This isn't even fair. The Jedi have Liam Neeson.

[xxHarbinger]

That would be one hell of a battle, but since I'm a big Star Wars nerd.
I gotta go Sith.

[Ashen One]

SavagelyEpic wrote...

Imperial Destroyer =/= a goddamn REAPER (in Sovereign/Nazara's words... "There is a realm of existence so far beyond your own, you cannot even fathom it")


No further questions.

The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the force.

[Korrozive]

its THAT guy wrote...

Korrozive wrote...

its THAT guy wrote...

Annihilation field > Anything the force scrubs can throw at biotic users. Also, N7 Biotic users can teleport. I don't think those jedi folks can do THAT now, can they?

Whew, easier. Mind trick -> "Would you kindly teleport into that wall?" -> ??? -> Profit.

HA! But we Bitoic users have dominate, which means.... no one wins on the mind control front.

Foolish Jedi.

True. Will have to rely on accelerating into a blur and punching skulls in. Messy. 

[ParkBom]

Korrozive wrote...

its THAT guy wrote...

Korrozive wrote...

its THAT guy wrote...

Annihilation field > Anything the force scrubs can throw at biotic users. Also, N7 Biotic users can teleport. I don't think those jedi folks can do THAT now, can they?

Whew, easier. Mind trick -> "Would you kindly teleport into that wall?" -> ??? -> Profit.

HA! But we Bitoic users have dominate, which means.... no one wins on the mind control front.

Foolish Jedi.

True. Will have to rely on accelerating into a blur and punching skulls in. Messy. 

Charge ALL the things.

[xxHarbinger]

Pyth the Bull wrote...

This isn't even fair. The Jedi have Liam Neeson.

You forget how Darth Maul owned him in Phantom Menace, young padawan.

[AresKeith]

xxHarbinger wrote...

Pyth the Bull wrote...

This isn't even fair. The Jedi have Liam Neeson.

You forget how Darth Maul owned him in Phantom Menace, young padawan.

if you can kill Liam Neeson in a movie, you'll forever be a badass lol

[DeathScepter]

Zero132132 wrote...

Jedi and Sith can't stasis stuff. The limit of their power comes to jedi mind tricks and what's essentialy the equivalent of pull.

Sith + Biosplosion = Dead Sith

Actually they can aka Kotor 1 and 2. one of the Force Abilities is Stasis and Stasis Field. And There is the Jedi Mind trick.

Modifié par DeathScepter, 10 août 2012 - 02:30 .

[ParkBom]

DeathScepter wrote...

Zero132132 wrote...

Jedi and Sith can't stasis stuff. The limit of their power comes to jedi mind tricks and what's essentialy the equivalent of pull.

Sith + Biosplosion = Dead Sith

Actually they can aka Kotor 1 and 2. one of the Force Abilities is Stasis and Stasis Field.

...This beith true.

[CrutchCricket]

JusticarFlareon wrote...
KotOR 2, Kreia found a way to ultimately destroy the Force using "echoes" in the Force. She was stopped but still, the way to kill it is still there. I don't really know a lot about SW (Games and movies)

From what I read that this was certainly what she believed, but not necessarily true. Indeed the idea that the Force was detrimental was instilled in her by Sith sorcerers.

[Pyth the Bull]

xxHarbinger wrote...

Pyth the Bull wrote...

This isn't even fair. The Jedi have Liam Neeson.

You forget how Darth Maul owned him in Phantom Menace, young padawan.

He had the flu. You could see it all over his face during that fight scene. Man was exhausted.

[its THAT guy]

Korrozive wrote...

its THAT guy wrote...

Korrozive wrote...

its THAT guy wrote...

Annihilation field > Anything the force scrubs can throw at biotic users. Also, N7 Biotic users can teleport. I don't think those jedi folks can do THAT now, can they?

Whew, easier. Mind trick -> "Would you kindly teleport into that wall?" -> ??? -> Profit.

HA! But we Bitoic users have dominate, which means.... no one wins on the mind control front.

Foolish Jedi.

True. Will have to rely on accelerating into a blur and punching skulls in. Messy. 

Yes, please keep on acclerating. Right into.... OUR ANNIHILATION FIELDS!!! MWUAHAHAHAHHA!!!!!

[Korrozive]

JusticarFlareon wrote...

Korrozive wrote...

its THAT guy wrote...

Korrozive wrote...

its THAT guy wrote...

Annihilation field > Anything the force scrubs can throw at biotic users. Also, N7 Biotic users can teleport. I don't think those jedi folks can do THAT now, can they?

Whew, easier. Mind trick -> "Would you kindly teleport into that wall?" -> ??? -> Profit.

HA! But we Bitoic users have dominate, which means.... no one wins on the mind control front.

Foolish Jedi.

True. Will have to rely on accelerating into a blur and punching skulls in. Messy. 

Charge ALL the things.

Precog + Super speed > Charge.