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[samb]

 Hey we cured the genophage and reclaimed the Quarian home world, could we do the same for the drell?  Either fix their home world or find them a new one?  I think curing Thane would be a stretch but at least give him peace of mind that his race isn't doomed. 
In fact, why havent the Hanar found them a nice dry planet already?  They have no need for dry dessert planets but have been spacefaring longer than humans. You are telling me in all that time they have not found even one?  Maybe the Compact isn't as beneficial as we are led to believe?  

[LanceSolous13]

The Hanar are more interested in curing the issue rather than giving them a dry planet. Its also comes down to that the Drell have the lung issues in places like the Citadel or Earth due to them being so much more humid than their homeplanet. They would be stuck on the desert planet escentially.

But, yes, I am all for curing Kepral's Syndrome. There was a mission in one of the original Scripts that involved Kasumi Goto and Kahje which could have been about Kepral's Syndrome. It might have also been her current mission but on Kahje instead of the Citadel.

[samb]

In a world were faster than light travel is possible (by conventional understanding is impossible) then creating an artificial environment that is dry should be simple. Or even a breathing apparatus that filters out moisture.
Just how invested are the Hanar in curing them? Is there somethig more insidious to these soft spoken squids?

[LanceSolous13]

Actually, there IS a cure, just they decided to never use it...

Thane discusses the Hanar developing a cure when you first speak with him.
The Shadow Broker has files stating that Thane was a perfect Lung Transplant Patient (from Dr. Chakwas)
And, ME3 has Medigel for the Lungs which is pretty much tailored for Thane, but never used.

[samb]

LanceSolous13 wrote...

Actually, there IS a cure, just they decided to never use it...

Thane discusses the Hanar developing a cure when you first speak with him.
The Shadow Broker has files stating that Thane was a perfect Lung Transplant Patient (from Dr. Chakwas)
And, ME3 has Medigel for the Lungs which is pretty much tailored for Thane, but never used.

Why didn't they use it? Was that explained?  If he could get a lung transplant, why didn't he?  Was he just sick of living?

The medigel was one of the side missions right?

[Twilight_Princess]

LanceSolous13 wrote...

Actually, there IS a cure, just they decided to never use it...

Thane discusses the Hanar developing a cure when you first speak with him.
The Shadow Broker has files stating that Thane was a perfect Lung Transplant Patient (from Dr. Chakwas)
And, ME3 has Medigel for the Lungs which is pretty much tailored for Thane, but never used.

 "Thane fans just want a MAGICAL cure "

[LanceSolous13]

samb wrote...

LanceSolous13 wrote...

Actually, there IS a cure, just they decided to never use it...

Thane discusses the Hanar developing a cure when you first speak with him.
The Shadow Broker has files stating that Thane was a perfect Lung Transplant Patient (from Dr. Chakwas)
And, ME3 has Medigel for the Lungs which is pretty much tailored for Thane, but never used.

Why didn't they use it? Was that explained?  If he could get a lung transplant, why didn't he?  Was he just sick of living?

The medigel was one of the side missions right?

Its never discussed and Thane's character development to "I'm afraid to die and it shames me" is thrown out the window.

[Shamus23]

Would the Drell even want it? So much of their culture now is so tied to the Hanar's they may not want to. Getting a sizable colony could be too much.

[RShara]

The medigel was a Cerberus Daily News article.

And romanced Thane is not willing to die. This is clearly stated by his ME2 writer, Chris L'Etoile.

[ENorman94]

 Thane has the burden of being an ME2 character...who we all know Bioware forgot about in ME3 

[iSousek]

samb wrote...

 Hey we cured the genophage and reclaimed the Quarian home world, could we do the same for the drell?  Either fix their home world or find them a new one?  I think curing Thane would be a stretch but at least give him peace of mind that his race isn't doomed. 
In fact, why havent the Hanar found them a nice dry planet already?  They have no need for dry dessert planets but have been spacefaring longer than humans. You are telling me in all that time they have not found even one?  Maybe the Compact isn't as beneficial as we are led to believe?  

His race isn't doomed. Not all Drell suffer from Keplar's Syndrome. It's just a desease. Fatal, but nowhere in the same basket as genophage.

[RShara]

Leading cause of death among drell. Kinda a bigger deal than infertility.

[disc0nnect7]

Thane and the entire Drell species seem to be pushed aside in ME3. We hardly hear any mention of Drell, and Thane...well yeah. Apparently Bioware never "planned" on curing or extending Thane's life, despite all the hints they threw out there. It didn't have to be about just Thane, it could have been for all Drell. We can help the Krogan, Quarians, Geth, but not a species that is essentially dying out?

[RShara]

Bioware didn't decide on Thane's fate until after they started working on ME3. During ME2, they stated they weren't sure where they were going to take Thane's character.

[LanceSolous13]

It didn't have to be romance spesific. I saw the change in Thane behavior on a Friendship!Thane. He is creating and sharing new memories with Kolyat rather than reviewing the old. That showed a significant change for me.

The Romance dialogue cemented that change for me.

Besides, I doube they'd make it romance spesific. First Miranda dies because Shepard broke up with her and then Thane dies because Shepard didn't love him romantically?

[RShara]

I know, but it's easier to point out the difference with a romanced Thane. One step at a time!

[samb]

RShara wrote...

Leading cause of death among drell. Kinda a bigger deal than infertility.

How could Keapril's (sp?) disease not be preventable?  Thane explains it as caused by too much moisture. Don't the elcor have environmental suits?  You're telling me they could not make an artificial environment where moisture was controlled?  It just doesn't make any sense.  Set your rebreather to filter out more moisture. I mean this is technology that is possible even now. 
Unless the disease was akin to sickle cell anemia, I don't see how they can't control it. This is possible as Thane himself said something was wrong with the oxygen carrying cells in his blood.  But sickle cell anemia is brought on by lack of oxygen, maybe Keapril's disease is the same but with water?

[RShara]

The disease changed between ME2 and ME3.

In ME2 it was a bacterial disease that affected his lungs' ability to transfer oxygen. The infection would cause lesions and kill off lung tissue. Eventually it would spread to other organs and do the same to them.
Presumably it's either a bacteria native to Kahje that found the drell's lack of antibodies delicious, or the constant moisture build up weakens their lungs to the point where it's susceptible to this bacteria. Yes, breathers would fix the problem if it's the latter. Maybe/maybe not for the former.

In ME3 it magically became a disease that affected hemoglobin and prevented it from transfporting oxygen. Aka Incurablitis.

[samb]

Many diseases affect hemoglobin like: sickle cell disease, Thalasemia, all are manageable by today's medicine. Managable but not cureable. You know like diabetes. There is no cure but people manage it with Metformin or insulin. Sure people die from them on occasion but no where near what Kreapel's disease does. BW is usually pretty good with their research but this is not one of those instances.

[RShara]

Not in the slightest.

[Twilight_Princess]

samb wrote...

Many diseases affect hemoglobin like: sickle cell disease, Thalasemia, all are manageable by today's medicine. Managable but not cureable. You know like diabetes. There is no cure but people manage it with Metformin or insulin. Sure people die from them on occasion but no where near what Kreapel's disease does. BW is usually pretty good with their research but this is not one of those instances.

There's a LOT of things about Thane that the new ME3 team didn't seem to research or remember . I still find it astounding considering Thane was the ME2 poster boy back in his day.

[Skullheart]

They didn't cure Thane because they needed him sidelined, just like the rest of the ME2 characters.

[LanceSolous13]

Except, you know, Tali, Garrus, Mordin, Legion and Miranda (to some extent because Legion's death isn't that favored by his fans and Miranda out of simply that she appears in the Sanctuary Mission; her romance lacks as does every ME2 romance.

[Outlawstar15a2]

samb wrote...

 Hey we cured the genophage and reclaimed the Quarian home world, could we do the same for the drell?  Either fix their home world or find them a new one?  I think curing Thane would be a stretch but at least give him peace of mind that his race isn't doomed. 
In fact, why havent the Hanar found them a nice dry planet already?  They have no need for dry dessert planets but have been spacefaring longer than humans. You are telling me in all that time they have not found even one?  Maybe the Compact isn't as beneficial as we are led to believe?  

Use common sense.

The Hanar are a race that have never been the best warriors and then they happen to find a race that are quick, stealthy, and well adapted (physically) to fighting a war and defending both of them. And to top it all off are also aquatic. The Hanar use the Drell to do their nasty "wet work" while the Hanar reap the benefits of the Compact. They may be looking for a new world for the Drell but they are not in a hurry to do so.