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Amazing movie... worth the price of a ticket.

However for any of you that did see it does the first half remind you of the story line in "Dances With Wolves?"

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Saw it on the 17th, and I loved it! One of the most amazing cinema experiences for me personally.

I was lucky enough to see it in 3D on a very big screen, and visually it's extraordinary. The story, while predictable and seen before, is well told and I liked both it, the characters and the world a great deal. I'd recommend it to anyone.

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Oh and to answer your question: Yes, I felt that way to. But in my mind Avatar is the better movie.

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MegaTofu wrote...

Oh and to answer your question: Yes, I felt that way to. But in my mind Avatar is the better movie.


I agree with everything you said... didn't give much kuddo's in my OP... but you hit the nail on the head... movie is spectacular.  Afterward my wife said something that struck me... "that movie is going to change the way movies are made forever."

I think she is correct.

ps/  You lucky dog seeing it in 3D! 

BTW - do you know if the ticket price is bumped a bit for the 3d version?

Modifié par montana_boy, 21 décembre 2009 - 09:27 .


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It was an awesome movie, even in 2D. For the first time in a very long time, when it ended, we wanted to stay for another showing. This despite the movie being nearly 3 hours long!



The whole scenario might remind some of what native Americans and other groups went through when superior forces invaded their lands. Except this movie ended on a positive note, which I was thankful for. I look forward to the next installment, economy allowing.



I especially loved the detail in the world of "Pandora". I had a strong desire to live there as I left the cinema. It was a bit depressing to leave.

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I saw it as well, and while it is a flawed movie, it is still extraordinary. I know have some understanding of how people felt the first time they saw Star Wars or King Kong in theaters.

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The story was underwhelming, the acting was pretty good, the animation was superb.

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Loved the movie, a few flaws, but overall great. Possibly my favourite Cameron movie. ^_^

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I got the impression that it's a Pocahantas in space kind of thing. Animation and all look impressive, but the story seems meeeh to me. Might rent it in the future.

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Loved it and as an Animation Student I give this one a big thumbs up for the enormous amount of effort put into the 3D work.

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Just watched it a few hours ago with my wife + her mates + my mates. I have to say, I never expected Hollywood to make such a turn such as this. It was a brilliant movie, with a very strong message. As one who has come from an un-industrialised people yet to be "modernised", it spoke very much close to home.



Right now rather nostalgic, and shamelessly said to my wife in front of others "I see you" heh



Meh, I'd rather be an alien then human now. Heck might as well replay the Dalish elves on DA:O just for the hell of it tomorrow.

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OneBadAssMother wrote...



Meh, I'd rather be an alien then human now. Heck might as well replay the Dalish elves on DA:O just for the hell of it tomorrow.


Heh, heh... I know what you mean.

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Great movies do not fall into the "Great" category without a musical sound track that knocks it out of the park. 

A few come to mind... Gone With The Wind, of course, Star Wars, Dances With Wolves and almost any Michael Mann movie with Last of the Mohicans absolutely superlative in the music department.
 
Unfortunately this is not so with Avatar. When walking out of the theatre you do not have music reverberating in your noggin, a damn shame. 

Mr. Cameron should have hired somebody like Trevor Jones.

Modifié par montana_boy, 22 décembre 2009 - 08:45 .


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Story was completely paint by numbers formulaic, but the graphics, er, 3D cinematography was amazing.

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It's the year of the overstatement. Anyone seen 2012? I like that movie too you just have to drop the pretense of the movies and just get wrapped up in the experience. Avatar feels liek one of those movies I could watch over and over without getting bored of it. The firefly movie is the same. Serenity?

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I'm planning on seeing Avatar again this afternoon, since I got a surprise day off (woot!). I saw it in 2D last weekend so I'm thinking I might try 3D today. Has anyone experienced headaches or eye strain from watching in 3D? I'm traumatized from memories of the blue/red glasses of the 80s and 90s.


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I took the lack of responses as a negative, and saw the 2D version again. Caught a bunch of stuff I missed the first time, due to scenes flashing by fast enough for ADD viewers and one poorly timed trip to the restroom last time. Good stuff and one for my Blu-ray collection ASAP.

I see people complaining about the story, but to me this story is told with lots of heart, and has quite a bit of local history behind it, as anyone whose people were displaced/exploited by another people might agree with. The difference in this case is that, as far as I can tell, the tribes of Na'vi don't war with each other like, say, the 'Native Americans' did before their land was invaded.

The CG is good quality and animations are top-notch, but so many scenes are split-second that I wasn't able to fully appreciate certain things. I dislike twitch-camera-control in movies. Drop the coffee and hold the camera still, dang it! This movie would be four or five hours long if it the scenes played out at the more reasonable speeds of the 1980s, but that's fine with me.

I noticed a feature difference between the human-created avatars and the Na'vi: the Na'vi have just three fingers on each hand while the human avatars have four. Didn't pay attention to Na'vi feet too much, but noticed Jake's avatar had five toes on each foot.

I'll never get tired of seeing Ranger Rick and the Corporate Cretin getting trounced in this movie.

Modifié par Endurium, 24 décembre 2009 - 12:21 .


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The thematics and a few of the plot elements are very contrived, but overall it is presented very well and IMHO entertainment worthy of your dollar. I'd suggest others see it for themselves to get a better idea of what's good about it (it should not take long), but don't expect anything morally or philosophically groundbreaking. It's beautiful but when it comes down to it, pure entertainment.

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A few friends and I had to go on bike to the cinema 12km away because of the huge mountains of snow and ice and it was Totally worth it!

We watched it in 3D and I really loved it, imo the story was told very good and I really liked the Na'vi being advanced without technology.

The whole world of Pandora was detailled and that made it even more beautiful than it already was.



The only thing James Cameron should regret is that he made the movie to short. In some scenes the camera switched to quickly to another scene and I really would like to have seen more scenes of Jake Sully flying along with Neytiri on there Ikrans and the fight with the Toruk among others.



But i'm sure i'm gonna watch this movie many many more times

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montana_boy wrote...

Great movies do not fall into the "Great" category without a musical sound track that knocks it out of the park. 

A few come to mind... Gone With The Wind, of course, Star Wars, Dances With Wolves and almost any Michael Mann movie with Last of the Mohicans absolutely superlative in the music department.
 
Unfortunately this is not so with Avatar. When walking out of the theatre you do not have music reverberating in your noggin, a damn shame. 

Mr. Cameron should have hired somebody like Trevor Jones.


Really? I love the soundtrack, listening to it right now. It is just subtle in the movie, try getting the CD, you will probably like it.

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Endurium wrote...

I'm planning on seeing Avatar again this afternoon, since I got a surprise day off (woot!). I saw it in 2D last weekend so I'm thinking I might try 3D today. Has anyone experienced headaches or eye strain from watching in 3D? I'm traumatized from memories of the blue/red glasses of the 80s and 90s.

I have no idea what the process is now, but the 3D glasses really make the colors less vibrant, and darken everything just like wearing sunglasses to watch TV would.  I may take it in again later on in regular 2D to verify whether that color comparison holds up.  I wear regular corrective glasses, and cannot use contacts any more, although I did use them for a long time, before my allergy levels ratcheted so far upward.

Even with that complication, there was no physical discomfort from the 3D for me.

Just as a few others here have pointed out, however,  the movie is too short by a great deal to really showcase the world of Pandora. 

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Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 25 décembre 2009 - 05:09 .


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I've seen it, too. It's really an amazing experience, especially in 3D. I was disappointed by the story, but it's very worth watching, just for the beautiful scenery alone.

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montana_boy wrote...

MegaTofu wrote...

Oh and to answer your question: Yes, I felt that way to. But in my mind Avatar is the better movie.


I agree with everything you said... didn't give much kuddo's in my OP... but you hit the nail on the head... movie is spectacular.  Afterward my wife said something that struck me... "that movie is going to change the way movies are made forever."

I think she is correct.

ps/  You lucky dog seeing it in 3D! 

BTW - do you know if the ticket price is bumped a bit for the 3d version?


That's what James Cameron does...

The best movie I have ever seen in theaters....  Usually the value of going to the theater to see a movie holds dubious or even negative value to me, Avatar is completely different.  I suspect that without the 3D element I would enjoy the movie much less.  The graphics and renderings look pretty corny without the 3D glasses to mute the colors and...um...add a 3rd dimension.

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This was my first modern 3D movie and it did not disappoint. The theater was absolutely packed today. Not an empty seat to be had. I was lucky too, in that my theater just installed the IMAX screen this summer and the sound system is brand spanking new. The explosions and crashes had the whole place shaking.



Between the 3D images, the explosive surround sound, the ultra cool environments and creatures, and the epic battles, this movie was the best I've seen this year. If there was ever a movie worth watching at your IMAX in 3D then this is the one. Do yourself a favor and do not wait for DVD. Go see Avatar right now.

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Avatar was truly a wonderful movie experience.  I can't recommend it enough.  It's a great heroic adventure that brought the fun factor back to Hollywood.  

After watching the movie I have read reviews and some have said that the story is just 'Dances with Wolves' or 'Pocahontas' in a sci-fi setting. In my opinion it resembles these stories in the sense Avatar is also about the clash between an "imperialistic western culture" and indigenous population residing in a pristine environment.  Yes, we've seen the story before in the sense that it is sadly part of human history to exploit "primitive" native populations particularly when they are sitting on something that the dominant group wants.  

Avatar reminded me a lot more of the movie 'Man Called Horse' and the series 'Shogun' than it did 'Dances with Wolves.'

Anyway  - if you want to experience a fun movie with great visuals go watch Avatar :D

Modifié par red8x, 26 décembre 2009 - 04:15 .