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[Endurium]

I just got back from a 3D screening and it was pretty good, but glitchy during the frenetic portions of the movie. I have a headache but that was expected going in. A few times I thought something was in my lap, so the effects were good overall. I think part of the problem is the glasses were a one-size-fits-all thing, and that never works for me.

Best part was, though this was my third screening in eight days, I enjoyed it as much as the first time. Never get tired of seeing Ranger Rick bite the dust, and Jake getting to live my dream.

As a side note, the people I sat near this time were entertaining before the show.

Modifié par Endurium, 29 décembre 2009 - 12:47 .

[Brass_Buckles]

Personally, I think the thing I liked about it most was not the amazing special effects--even though I saw it in 3D and I have to say it was really awesome--or the story (which as I said, I think was well-told but cliche, as others have mentioned). No, I think the thing I liked best was the world-building. You could tell that someone had put lots of thought into the environment and the Na'vi culture--more than we actually got to see in the movie itself. That's why it was so easy to get drawn into the world of Pandora.

[Endurium]

I agree, and the attention to creature animation helped too, especially the last scenes showing Neytiri holding/kissing human Jake. It's like Crysis on another world, only better. I'd love a sandbox game based on Pandora, just for running around and seeing everything. I hope any sequels spend more time on the subject of Pandora itself.

[Brass_Buckles]

Endurium wrote...

I agree, and the attention to creature animation helped too, especially the last scenes showing Neytiri holding/kissing human Jake. It's like Crysis on another world, only better. I'd love a sandbox game based on Pandora, just for running around and seeing everything. I hope any sequels spend more time on the subject of Pandora itself.

I'll just be glad if they have sequels at all.  I mean, I'm sure that they will considering how well this one has done at the box office, and yet, it ended in such a way that it's satisfying as it is.  There may not be any sequels planned.

[Ravenshrike]

Everything about the movie was EPIC. In the case of the plot however, it was EPIC FAIL. The Maguffinium(Really Cameron, unobtanium? Could you at least put in a little effort?) is presented as something that will save the human race, and yet they refuse to mine even the easiest sources available to them, namely the giant floating islands. It's a SUPERCONDUCTOR, you don't need ultra-super-massive quantities since it's used solely to conduct energy. So you mine the stuff right in front of your face first, and only later when you have a large enough human presence and everybody back on earth is thoroughly hooked on the stuff do you even touch the native population. The idea that a corp. would continually bang their heads against the wall instead of mining what's right there that nobody's claiming rights to is silly. Then there's the fact that this a corporation which can apparently grab plenty of ex-military personnel and create a ****ing AVATAR and yet can't build one measly thermobaric warhead or proper incendiary device. Seriously, were these people dropped on their heads as children? I won't even get into the fact that it's quite obvious that the entire frelling planet was bio-engineered, which means that it wasn't advanced technology that damned them, but technology that wasn't advanced enough.

[Burdokva]

Actually, it's a sort of a pun - http://en.wikipedia....iki/Unobtainium . I always thought the movie used the term to avoid creating a completely fictional type of chemical element and leave it to the imagination what exactly it is (or what it possible be).



And, you know, there are more than enough treaties and international organizations that strictly control the creation and spreading of nuclear devices and materials, especially weapons (and thank God for that). It's more than likely that there would be an extremely tight control over a corporation that mines a foreign worlds and is, essentially, the representative of the human race to another civilization.

[fantasypisces]

Burdokva wrote...

Actually, it's a sort of a pun - http://en.wikipedia....iki/Unobtainium . I always thought the movie used the term to avoid creating a completely fictional type of chemical element and leave it to the imagination what exactly it is (or what it possible be).
 

This

He wasn't being lazy, it is an actual term used in modern-days society.

[Ravenshrike]

It is a joke term, or a term used by nerds in specific situations, not by ex-force recon colonels and is no more clever than calling it maguffinium.

As for your contention that there would be 'tight control' over an offworld mining consortium's activities, the entire movie would seem to belie your hypothesis. Not to mention that a thermobaric warhead is decidedly non-nuclear

[fairandbalancedfan]

Humanity has learned a lesson here. Do not send a bunch of mercenaries to do a soldier's job.

Modifié par fairandbalancedfan, 30 décembre 2009 - 04:23 .

[fairandbalancedfan]

Endurium wrote...

Never get tired of seeing Ranger Rick bite the dust, and Jake getting to live my dream.

But he is the coolest character in the movie.

[SPOILER ALERT]




when Jake and the gang were escaping the Colonel held his breath and fired at them. The Coloneldoesn't breath air for living, he breathes it for pleasure.

[Endurium]

fairandbalancedfan wrote...

Endurium wrote...

Never get tired of seeing Ranger Rick bite the dust, and Jake getting to live my dream.

But he is the coolest character in the movie.

[SPOILER ALERT]


when Jake and the gang were escaping the Colonel held his breath and fired at them. The Colonel doesn't breath air for living, he breathes it for pleasure.

I agree his character is played well, and I would probably enjoy him in any other movie. But in this one he pulls a George Bush and orders a pre-emptive strike on so-called terrorists, after downing their majestic Hometree. I was looking forward to his death after all that. (Yeah, I'm a Na'vi sympathizer, and I'm also part Cherokee.)

Speaking of cool things Quaritch did, I also enjoyed when he jumped into his power suit and jumped out of the falling gunship. The way he 'rode' into battle while standing relaxed with a cup of coffee was also amusing.

[fairandbalancedfan]

Endurium wrote...


Speaking of cool things Quaritch did, I also enjoyed when he jumped into his power suit and jumped out of the falling gunship. The way he 'rode' into battle while standing relaxed with a cup of coffee was also amusing.

I was amused it was the American who sent in their forces. I would have figured the Chinese or the other asian nations are in more desperate need of resources than the U.S. Mind you, the Chinese or other nations would have been more ruthless.

Modifié par fairandbalancedfan, 30 décembre 2009 - 06:06 .

[Endurium]

fairandbalancedfan wrote...

Endurium wrote...


Speaking of cool things Quaritch did, I also enjoyed when he jumped into his power suit and jumped out of the falling gunship. The way he 'rode' into battle while standing relaxed with a cup of coffee was also amusing.

I was amused it was the American who sent in their forces. I would have figured the Chinese or the other asian nations are in more desperate need of resources than the U.S.

Maybe it's because America is Capitalist, which still seems to be the case in Jake's time.

[fairandbalancedfan]

Endurium wrote...

Maybe it's because America is Capitalist, which still seems to be the case in Jake's time.

So is China, but they don't say it out loud. Well at this point I am nit picking. I enjoyed the hell out of the movie and the nasties got what's coming to them.

[the_one_54321]

the attention to detail was fantastic. the organisms were all so beautiful, and actually made a decent amount of sense. also, did you know that Camaron hired linguists to actually create the na'vi language? it's a whole real language, and if you pay attention you can here the consistency in the dialog.

[Trajan60]

Just saw 2012. Quite possibly the worst movie I've ever seen.

[Endurium]

Just saw my fourth screening and it was as good as the first, if not better because thanks to the books I had a better understanding of what was going on.

Found out an interesting bit of info on Na'vi mating and why Neytiri said it was for life. It's not just words like with humans, they actually join their 'queues' together for a 'very spiritual and highly erotic' bond, That plus the usual procedure for reproducing blows away anything humans do on so many levels. It's not shown well in the movie, but you can see their braided 'queues' between them as the camera pans. I imagine that's quite the profound experience. Puts new meaning to 'soul mate'.

Modifié par Endurium, 03 janvier 2010 - 12:41 .

[Skydiver8888]

Just saw it in 3d...I have a headache, but that's because I can't see "fine" depth perception stuff, and 3d doesn't "work" for me the same way it works for most. I still see the extreme 3d stuff (the stuff that's supposed to be really popping out of the screen or really far back) as double, heh.



That being said, I thought the movie was great. I was watching the credits and commented to my husband that they read more like video game credits than any movie credits i've seen...and then we got to talking about how the development of this movie was probably more like a video game, especially the world-building and artistic parts.



I feel like this is the first thing I've seen that could legitimately be called a "merge" of video game and movie, at least in the development. Earlier post got it right, i think. This will change the way movies are made.

[uberman409]

I was gonna go see it today, but not only did the moron plowman decide to plow WAY past the latest movie time, he decided to, once he was past the time, plow at all. Now I don't get a snow day, and I don't get to see Avatar.

[fairandbalancedfan]

Skydiver8888 wrote...
 This will change the way movies are made.

If people have a $ 240 million budget sure. But in all seriousness, the CGI may have been ground breaking, I think it is pre mature to call it changing the way movies are made. There have been movie blockbusters made in 2009 (very few) that had a more solid story. What I loved about Avatar of course were the CGI and attention to detail of the world was awesome though.

[Thibbledorf26]

I saw Avatar a while back. It was good, but not great. I don't quite understand the hype. The FX were great, and the detail in the design of the planet and its denizens was superb. There were some exhilirating moments. However the storyline was cliche, simplistic and the moral perspective in the movie was a binary black and white. The dialogue was a bit cringe-worthy as well.