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[ryoldschool]

Sulaco, no. Eric mentions that the typhoon has extra damage ( 1.5x) to armor, shields, barriers. We don't see that based on the gun parameters. The 1/2 refers to the time in the video comparing taking down an atlas on platinum pre and post nerf. 6 seconds before, 13 seconds after. These are different things but it could be that the nerf did more than just adjust that one factor. Clear? No it isn't.

Edit: Pre nerf it was 6 seconds.

Also note that in the video the user has the exact same setup, except the devasator mode was also nerfed 5% rate of fire.

Modifié par ryoldschool, 10 août 2012 - 09:28 .

[mpompeo27]

I have yet to acquire a Typhoon though I can say that it didn't interest me much to begin with.

[COLZ7R]

Only got it after the nerf, its ok on silver, higher than that, dont like it. feels like you are a walking target waiting for it to spin up

[Tallgeese_VII]

Can`t really say it`s good anymore.
But then.. my reason of using ARs was not because they were good....

[vonSlash]

It still kills faster than a Revenant, and the Revenant is on par with most of the weaponset as far as efficacy is concerned. So the Typhoon is still a "good gun" in that it's better than most other weapons in the game.

People need to stop being butthurt about the fact that what used to be the fastest-killing weapon in the game is now only the second- or third-fastest killing weapon in the game.

Modifié par vonSlash, 10 août 2012 - 10:01 .

[WMcAlister]

It works fine for me.

Modifié par WMcAlister, 10 août 2012 - 10:02 .

[Arbiter156]

it seems to me, with these forums that should a weapon take actual skill and preparation to use effectively, it is instantly in dire need of a huge damage buff so that it will kill all enemies on the screen in 0.000003 seconds. krysae/falcon anyone? (exceptions apply accordingly)

i'll just go back to loving the assault rifles. (yes even my collector assault rifle).

Modifié par Arbiter156, 10 août 2012 - 10:07 .

[Kalas Magnus]

IndigoVitare wrote...

Gamemako wrote...

IndigoVitare wrote...

How long does the Harrier take to bring down an Atlas?

This.

It takes around 30 seconds and twice your spare ammo capacity.

Clearly the Harrier needs a buff. If 13 seconds is considered bad, then 30 seconds is downright awful. The Harrier must be a useless trash weapon.

What class are you using? Max amps and on a GI I doubt it takes 30 seconds. With Destroyer I still doubt 30 sec.

[darkblade]

Still a ridiculously good gun.

Along with at like 6-8 other ARs.

[DHKany]

It is pretty bad compared to pre nerf now.
But if you compare it to the others it still pretty good.

[ryoldschool]

vonSlash wrote...

It still kills faster than a Revenant, and the Revenant is on par with most of the weaponset as far as efficacy is concerned. So the Typhoon is still a "good gun" in that it's better than most other weapons in the game.

People need to stop being butthurt about the fact that what used to be the fastest-killing weapon in the game is now only the second- or third-fastest killing weapon in the game.

You can believe that its the second or third fastest killing weapon in  the game if you want - ( maybe it would be ok if you only faced Atlases ).  My advice is if you get it try the best setup you can for it and see for yourself.

[Rifneno]

ITT: People pretend the typhoon can kill a platinum atlas in 13 seconds under normal circumstances, ignoring that that guy had a typhoon X, assault rifle rail amp III, and warp ammo IV.

Misrepresentation of facts depresses me.

[ryoldschool]

IndigoVitare wrote...

Chriss5688 wrote...

IndigoVitare wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

It is inferior the the Particle Rifle in almost every way.

I have the Typhoon at rank X, and wouldn't even think about using it on anything other than the Destroyer. That's a problem.

Just going to point out that the way the Particle Rifle reloads means it's a lot slower at downing big bosses as you have to constantly wait for it to recharge.

So it's hardly "every way".

I believe I've seen Ashen say he managed to kill an Atlas with the PPR using one clip on a GI specced for Duration on TC and Speed & Vision instead of Damage on Hunter Mode... don't underestimate it.

I don't. I like the Particle Rifle. But the idea that the Particle Rifle is better than the Typhoon in every possible way is ludicrous.

Well, you have to try it for yourself.  I just played about seven gold games and one platinum with the Destroyer and Particle rifle, and this Ashen Earth guy is correct about the difference between the guns.  The particle rifle lets you take out not only Atlases that are hard to miss, but also banshees, and phantoms who are jumping all over the place - with the accuracy it does a great job on the other targets as well.

[Rhayak]

My Destroyer with Typhoon and ammo aug is able to take out an average of 4 'basic' units with one magazine, without having to focus much on headshots.

Brutes, Turrets, Geth Pyros, they also go down without reloading.

Master units take one reload.

So that's still a pretty good gun.

(that's on Silver and Gold, anyway, not platinum)

[Rifneno]

Damn I wish people would stop judging this gun on what you can do with one magazine. Of course you can do a lot with one magazine, it's got a huge magazine. That means you're exposed and vulnerable longer. If we talk about what you can do with one magazine, the paladin's a bad gun. And spoiler warning, the paladin's an awesome gun.

If a couple of mooks decide to target you, the typhoon is severely hampered. Unlike guns which you can just stick your head out of cover, fire off a few rounds, and get back down.

[Eckswhyzed]

Still damn awesome.

PS: It's better than the Revenant - 1100RPM spun up is no joke. 1800 RPM on a Destroyer

[Koenig888]

An engineer with GPR can now out-score a Typhoon-wielding Destroyer.

http://s1058.photobu...rent=Image5.jpg

[RinShepard]

ryoldschool wrote...

Also note that in the video the user has the exact same setup, except the devasator mode was also nerfed 5% rate of fire.

In the video, that 5% rate of fire nerf made quite a notable difference. The pre-Destroyer emptied the first clip very notably earlier than the post-nerf Destroyer.

[dream3873]

I will not use it again untill they rebuff it.

[defleshing]

i wouldn't know.. dam u troll store!!!! X-( the new and improved particle rifle is a beast tho.

[ollpet]

No its not a good gun.

[Kenadian]

Koenig888 wrote...

An engineer with GPR can now out-score a Typhoon-wielding Destroyer.

http://s1058.photobu...rent=Image5.jpg

Silver? Not the best proving grounds.

[fishcurry]

Ashen Earth wrote...

When you consider the fact that the Particle Rifle can destroy the highest HP unit in the game on a setup optimized primarily for utility with damage as a secondary concern, whereas the Typhoon probably could not (i'd need to go test it, but I sincerely doubt it) it's not so "ludicrous".

The Particle Rifle has only one of the same drawbacks as the Typhoon which is the warm up time. It's relatievely lightweight for it's DPS potential (1.4, same as Saber, Graal, GPS) unlike the Typhoon. It has no recoil, unlike the Typhoon and perfect accuracy which means your theoretical DPS is often a reality. With a Typhoon, you're constantly going to ammo crates because it burns through ammunition. Not a problem with the Particle Rifle, and if you're really good with it, you don't even have to suffer through a reload animation.

Yeah, the Typhoon is inferior.

You forgot to mention the part where the particle rifle has the same clip size but does harrier level damage every shot part shot #30

[ryoldschool]

RinShepard wrote...

ryoldschool wrote...

Also note that in the video the user has the exact same setup, except the devasator mode was also nerfed 5% rate of fire.

In the video, that 5% rate of fire nerf made quite a notable difference. The pre-Destroyer emptied the first clip very notably earlier than the post-nerf Destroyer.

I am sure that the rate of fire nerf does make some difference ( there is nothing that could be done to eliminate that factor ).

But if you look at the video in the first case he took 6.1 seconds to finishh off the Atlas and he has 42 rounds left in the magazine.

If you pause the video while he is shooting in the post nerf video ( the best I couuld do was at 6.233 seconds, 19 seconds into the video ) there are 44 rounds left and there are still 10 bars of armor left on the Atlas.

The 5% rate of fire I am sure makes a difference, but it is minor compared to whatever else they did to the gun.

[Tallgeese_VII]

No. Nerfing killed it.
If you didn`t know pre-nerf Typhoon, enjoy.