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[SnakeEyes]

I still use the Typhoon lvl 2 on my Destroyer, but that's the only class I'll use it on.The accuracy, thermal clip and damage bonuses make it worth using.

[ryoldschool]

Rifneno wrote...

ryoldschool wrote...

@buckshot- that is actually a great idea, she has that wt reduction for assault rifles. But I'm going to try it with the particle rifle- more accurate and it weighs less. I had great success vs phantoms with the particle rifle, but that's another thread

Actually, like the rest of his post it's godawful.  The AR weight reduction is a 6th level evolution.  The 5th level evolution is 20% headshot damage, which is almost universally laughed at now that bosses have no weak points, and power damage, which sounds good until you realize it's broken for the justicar and does nothing.  So you're paying eleven points for that 30% weight reduction.  ...  Which isn't a 30% weight reduction!  The description is grossly misleading.  It gives you -30 from the cooldown penalty you see in the weapon screen.  So it would generally take less than a second off reave's recast.  For 11 points.

Godawful.

I still have not tried the typhoon on the justicar, but I looked at my build last night.

I went 6/6/4/4/6, meaning I skipped ranks 5 and 6 of the passive, maxed  fitness and only put four ranks in pull.   With that build:

Reave cooldown seconds , no extra gear:

Paladin X          2.22
Revenant X      2.62
Particle Rfl  7   2.96
Harrier 8           2.72
Typyhoon 6      3.85


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I was playing my Destroyer with Particle Rifle last night and I saw a lot of different builds running with the harrier, particle rifle and typhoon ( actually saw an cerberus adept with a typhoon ).   Depending on the strategy used and the map you can get away with the heavy weight on anything I guess.   We did dagger/gold/cerberus ( camped the lower area far left from the LZ ) and we had two particle rifles, a typhoon ( on the cerberus adept ) and a demolisher with a harrier - It was a lot of fun taking down all those Atlases and phantoms at range before they could get to us

[Invellous]

I recently unlocked the Typhoon, recently being yesterday. So far I am not that impressed, no doubt I owe the feeling to balance changes for that. Even at longer ranges my Piranha X with the Smart Choke kills faster than the Typhoon I. Despite that I still prefer carrying it over the Harrier and Particle Rifle on my N7 Destroyer. It seems to kill enemy units with Armor faster than the other two, which is great for those times that I do not want to get in close. However again I have had limited play time with it. I did a quick test run with on my Turian Soldier as well, seemed much better on him, provided I did not get hit, and even then the Rate of Fire bonuses seem to help it ramp up faster. I equipped it with the Precision Scope and Stability Damper, which yielded respectable results.

[Poison_Berrie]

People have been getting very inconsistent behavior out of it, so it's likely bugged.

Rifneno wrote...

I'm not going to get into a debate with anyone who thinks URs shouldn't kick rare's asses. I'm not here to educate pure shooter fans on the basics of RPGs.

You haven't payed a whole lot attention to this game, then. He's on the money here, with most UR conforming to the overall superior, but not in everyway superior and some aspects inferior to rares. 
They've avoided a clear cut upgrade style (at least tried to) except for the starter weapons.

[ExpiredLifetime]

I don't have the Typhoon unlocked yet, but even when I do I will figure I'll still prefer my Harrier.
Why? It's much, much more precise. On a Destroyer I can take down an Atlas on Platinum in, oh, 4 clips? And considering it takes about 2 seconds to empty each clip and about a half second of reload time per, that's roughly 11 seconds. Plus I can headshot mooks to hell and back with it.

[Elecbender]

Typhoon at the moment is bugged and its damage output is inconsistent. The 2x multiplier was probably masking this.

[gyuuniku]

Something's wrong with this gun, I thought the penetration nerf and the multiplier nerve didn't mean much, but there's something else different about this. I picked it up last night with my destroyer, and no amount of stability mods can make it stay on target. I don't mind bullets going all over the place, but now it's at the point where it moves your screen somewhere else also, I don't think even the revenent did that.

[N7 Whiskey]

ExpiredLifetime wrote...

I don't have the Typhoon unlocked yet, but even when I do I will figure I'll still prefer my Harrier.
Why? It's much, much more precise. On a Destroyer I can take down an Atlas on Platinum in, oh, 4 clips? And considering it takes about 2 seconds to empty each clip and about a half second of reload time per, that's roughly 11 seconds. Plus I can headshot mooks to hell and back with it.

Except that it's really not more precise.  The Typhoon has almost no recoil but the accuracy is what I'd call medium.  With the Destroyer the accuracy is better.  Turian Soldier with Marksman spec'd for 60% accuracy bonus, the "spray" becomes quite good.  With the AR scope V @ +35% accuracy bonus for a total of +95% accuracy bonus, the Typhoon becomes a long range headshot machine.

The Harrier, unless using something to increase stability isn't any more precise than the Typhoon.  With the same setups as above, the Harrier is drastically improved but still has the ammo issue though much less pronounced with increased more accuracy/stability being a great way to conserve ammo.

[N7 Whiskey]

gyuuniku wrote...

Something's wrong with this gun, I thought the penetration nerf and the multiplier nerve didn't mean much, but there's something else different about this. I picked it up last night with my destroyer, and no amount of stability mods can make it stay on target. I don't mind bullets going all over the place, but now it's at the point where it moves your screen somewhere else also, I don't think even the revenent did that.

That's because stability isn't the issue, it's accuracy which is different than stability.  Stability is represented in how much the weapon kicks off target with each bullet.  Accuracy is represented in how far off the bullet goes from the targeting reticule.  As my above post states, accuracy bonuses from Marksman & AR Scope drastically changes effective range on smaller targets.  Destroyer also has accuracy bonuses though much less than Turian Soldier.

I would suggest trying again but use Extended Magazine + AR Scope and see how that works for you.  More of your bullets will hit man-sized targets at medium & long range which will deal more damage than what the Extended Barrel will give you.

[gyuuniku]

it's making my screen bounce off target by at least 30 degrees, counterstrike style if you knwo what i mean

[Ashen One]

BuckshotSamurai wrote...

ExpiredLifetime wrote...

I don't have the Typhoon unlocked yet, but even when I do I will figure I'll still prefer my Harrier.
Why? It's much, much more precise. On a Destroyer I can take down an Atlas on Platinum in, oh, 4 clips? And considering it takes about 2 seconds to empty each clip and about a half second of reload time per, that's roughly 11 seconds. Plus I can headshot mooks to hell and back with it.

Except that it's really not more precise.  The Typhoon has almost no recoil but the accuracy is what I'd call medium. 

The Typhoon has more recoil than the Hurricane.

[N7 Whiskey]

gyuuniku wrote...

it's making my screen bounce off target by at least 30 degrees, counterstrike style if you knwo what i mean

Oh, I skipped the last sentence of your first post .  

Not sure what is causing the screen shaking as I haven't experienced this with the Typhoon.  Are you sure someone wasn't spamming Shockwave, Biotic or Electric Slash or have a Geth Engineer Turret close to you?

[Immortal Strife]

The Typhoon has an off host issue with too much stability (negative recoil). You can look up my thread. I discovered it on the Turian but it may be present on all classes.

[MajorStupidity]

Still use the typhoon on my destroyer, but it feels really weak against armor 212 rounds into and atlas and it only took off 60% off his armor. great against shields though.

I think it is doomed in my eyes now though because I just unlocked the PPR 

[N7 Whiskey]

Ashen Earth wrote...

BuckshotSamurai wrote...

ExpiredLifetime wrote...

I don't have the Typhoon unlocked yet, but even when I do I will figure I'll still prefer my Harrier.
Why? It's much, much more precise. On a Destroyer I can take down an Atlas on Platinum in, oh, 4 clips? And considering it takes about 2 seconds to empty each clip and about a half second of reload time per, that's roughly 11 seconds. Plus I can headshot mooks to hell and back with it.

Except that it's really not more precise.  The Typhoon has almost no recoil but the accuracy is what I'd call medium. 

The Typhoon has more recoil than the Hurricane.

Thats complete BS.  With the Hurricane you have to hold down on your aiming stick to keep it on target because the muzzle rises when firing.  The Typhoon doesn't do this unless you are trying to run and gun with it.

Modifié par BuckshotSamurai, 12 août 2012 - 06:28 .

[N7 Whiskey]

Immortal Strife wrote...

The Typhoon has an off host issue with too much stability (negative recoil). You can look up my thread. I discovered it on the Turian but it may be present on all classes.

Got a link or at least thread title?  I'd be interested to read that.

[AwesomeDudex64]

Needs a bit more damage for me to consider using the heavy piece of machinery.

[Ashen One]

BuckshotSamurai wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

BuckshotSamurai wrote...

ExpiredLifetime wrote...

I don't have the Typhoon unlocked yet, but even when I do I will figure I'll still prefer my Harrier.
Why? It's much, much more precise. On a Destroyer I can take down an Atlas on Platinum in, oh, 4 clips? And considering it takes about 2 seconds to empty each clip and about a half second of reload time per, that's roughly 11 seconds. Plus I can headshot mooks to hell and back with it.

Except that it's really not more precise.  The Typhoon has almost no recoil but the accuracy is what I'd call medium. 

The Typhoon has more recoil than the Hurricane.

Thats complete BS. 

Not according to information datamined from the game files.

If you want people to take you seriously, you should cut down on the hyperbole.

[Immortal Strife]

BuckshotSamurai wrote...

Immortal Strife wrote...

The Typhoon has an off host issue with too much stability (negative recoil). You can look up my thread. I discovered it on the Turian but it may be present on all classes.

Got a link or at least thread title?  I'd be interested to read that.

http://social.biowar.../index/13616359

[N7 Whiskey]

Ashen Earth wrote...



Not according to information datamined from the game files.

If you want people to take you seriously, you should cut down on the hyperbole.

Point your Hurricane and pull the trigger and the targeting reticule climbs quickly.  Do the same with the Typhoon and it climbs very slowly.  That isn't hyperbole, it's a simple fact.  Go equip both weapons on any non-Turian character and without stability mods, start a solo match and test them both from the hip, while ADS, in and out of cover.

If YOU want people to take YOU seriously, perhaps you should take the time to know WTF you are talking about.

[Rifneno]

Poison_Berrie wrote...

People have been getting very inconsistent behavior out of it, so it's likely bugged.

Rifneno wrote...

I'm not going to get into a debate with anyone who thinks URs shouldn't kick rare's asses. I'm not here to educate pure shooter fans on the basics of RPGs.

You haven't payed a whole lot attention to this game, then. He's on the money here, with most UR conforming to the overall superior, but not in everyway superior and some aspects inferior to rares. 
They've avoided a clear cut upgrade style (at least tried to) except for the starter weapons.

Right.  The vindicator is just as good as the harrier, the scimitar is just as good as the claymore, and the raptor's just as good as the indra.  Don't kid yourself, everything is not on equal footing nor is it intended to be.  There's be absolutely no point in a tiered system if higher tiers weren't supposed to be better.  They try to make everything operate a bit differently but that hardly means the tier system is meaningless.  It's just in poor shape because they suck at balancing.

[Biotic_Warlock]

It gives damage reduction... of course it's a good weapon!

[SnakeEyes]

Rifneno wrote...
Right.  The vindicator is just as good as the harrier, the scimitar is just as good as the claymore, and the raptor's just as good as the indra.

I had to read this multiple times, just to make sure you weren't trolling...

[Eckswhyzed]

Rifneno wrote...

Poison_Berrie wrote...

People have been getting very inconsistent behavior out of it, so it's likely bugged.

Rifneno wrote...

I'm not going to get into a debate with anyone who thinks URs shouldn't kick rare's asses. I'm not here to educate pure shooter fans on the basics of RPGs.

You haven't payed a whole lot attention to this game, then. He's on the money here, with most UR conforming to the overall superior, but not in everyway superior and some aspects inferior to rares. 
They've avoided a clear cut upgrade style (at least tried to) except for the starter weapons.

Right.  The vindicator is just as good as the harrier, the scimitar is just as good as the claymore, and the raptor's just as good as the indra.  Don't kid yourself, everything is not on equal footing nor is it intended to be.  There's be absolutely no point in a tiered system if higher tiers weren't supposed to be better.  They try to make everything operate a bit differently but that hardly means the tier system is meaningless.  It's just in poor shape because they suck at balancing.

Vindicator is lighter than the Harrier, The Scimitar has a higher ROF and clip size than the Claymore and is far lighter. As for the Raptor, no hipfire penalty.

So URs aren't strict upgrades, which is a good thing.

Modifié par Eckswhyzed, 12 août 2012 - 10:39 .

[SgtAmazing]

Just got it post nerf and I really like it on the destroyer with +25% ROF. I can take out brutes and ravagers all in the same magazine without reload. On the downside, just like with real light machine guns, your accuracy is bad. I found this weapon is only good up to a medium type range. Too far and your shots miss more than hit due to the inaccuracy of the gun and your just wasting ammo.

I do like the harrier better as its accuracy is much better, but with on the destroyer with devestator mode on +25% ROF, you run out of ammo too fast.  You can kill enemies quicker, but have to run to the ammo crate too often taking you out of the fight, unless you have a demolisher's supply pylon right next to you.

Modifié par SgtAmazing, 12 août 2012 - 10:53 .