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[shepisavanguardgetoverit]

TMB903 wrote...

I use it on destroyer and it's a really fun weapon to use...It's still pretty strong but I use AP IV ammo, AR amp IIII and AR 15% gear with it so I can't say how it is without those...Ol Painless will always hold a place in my heart because it was what I used the first time I beat Platinum

I use it on my n7 demolisher, jump to cover, pop down an supply crate for ammo and shield regen, go nuts. Rinse and repeat.  Chuck a few grenades every now an then. 

[Hypertion]

no its trash compaired to the particle rifle.

a weapon with nearly double the weight and limited ammo capacity and bullet spread also doing less damage than a weapon with ok weight, unlimited ammo, perfect aim with no recoil and more weapon damage..



ya thats bioware balance for you!

[NightSabre22]

Only use mine on my destroyer if theres a few biotic / tech classes in the lobby (focusing fire on shielded and armored targets).

I agree with many others, the prothean particle rifle is better in many ways. It vaporizes enemies when fully charged up and it has unlimited ammo.

Edit: corrected the name of the ''prothean particle rifle'' (said plasma rifle before).

Modifié par NightSabre22, 13 août 2012 - 12:06 .

[Rifneno]

Biotic_Warlock wrote...

It gives damage reduction... of course it's a good weapon!

AFAIK, that was never conclusively proven.

Kurt-Niisan2 wrote...

I had to read this multiple times, just to make sure you weren't trolling...

I was being sarcastic of course.

Eckswhyzed wrote...

Vindicator is lighter than the Harrier, The Scimitar has a higher ROF and clip size than the Claymore and is far lighter. As for the Raptor, no hipfire penalty.

So URs aren't strict upgrades, which is a good thing.

No, but they are upgrades. With a few exceptions that got the eagle treatment. That was my point. He said "Granted a lot of them have but stricly speaking they just need to be overall superior to less rare weapons (and even that is debatable)."

I was replying to the part about it being debatable whether higher tier weapons are supposed to be better weapons. It's just stupid. That's the entire point of a tiered system. I don't know jack **** about shooters. Honestly, I'm happy killing fake ****s like the qunari or the order of the flaming rose rather than real ****s like in every single shooter ever (I heard they actually thought about making one that wasn't about WWII... imagine, the innovation! shame it got cut in development). But I do know about RPGs. When there's a tiered system like we have with "rarity" then it's so the higher tiers, the harder or more tedious to obtain ones, are overall if not directly superior. I can't even imagine why else you would even have a tiered system.

shepisavanguardgetoverit wrote...

I use it on my n7 demolisher, jump to cover, pop down an supply crate for ammo and shield regen, go nuts. Rinse and repeat. Chuck a few grenades every now an then.

If you have a harrier, try that. Being a demolisher eliminates the ammo problem, which is really the only thing the typhoon has over the harrier.

[Terminus Echoes]

I don't find it useful even on my Destroyer on Gold or Platinum. Just uses too much ammo for too little a payoff. The Harrier and Particle Rifle are definitely better.

[nicethugbert]

No, it sux, nerfers win. Good day sir!

[Xaijin]

Could not care less about it anymore.

[Poison_Berrie]

Rifneno wrote...

Right.  The vindicator is just as good as the harrier, the scimitar is just as good as the claymore, and the raptor's just as good as the indra.  Don't kid yourself, everything is not on equal footing nor is it intended to be.  There's be absolutely no point in a tiered system if higher tiers weren't supposed to be better.  They try to make everything operate a bit differently but that hardly means the tier system is meaningless.  It's just in poor shape because they suck at balancing.

My point (and I believe his) was that it's not a typical RPG deal, where weapon B does more damage and or is faster, etc... than A
There's a multitude of stats that effect weapon behavior add in different class builds and this makes that categorizing one weapon as clearly better in every way isn't so clear cut as Sword vs Sword +1. 
This is especially true between the Rares and Ultra-Rares. 
The UR often present a superior option, but their purpose is not to phase out all other weapons.

I don't think anyone is claiming the tier system is meaningles.

Modifié par Poison_Berrie, 12 août 2012 - 11:48 .

[Rifneno]

Poison_Berrie wrote...

My point (and I believe his) was that it's not a typical RPG deal, where weapon B does more damage and or is faster, etc... than A
There's a multitude of stats that effect weapon behavior add in different class builds and this makes that categorizing one weapon as clearly better in every way isn't so clear cut as Sword vs Sword +1. 
This is especially true between the Rares and Ultra-Rares. 
The UR often present a superior option, but their purpose is not to phase out all other weapons.

I don't think anyone is claiming the tier system is meaningles.

Yes, they have.  That was my entire point, and the guy I was replying to was actually giving them some degree of credibility by saying it's debatable.  I haven't seen anyone say it in this particular thread, but yes, I've seen people say it.

[ArtGerhardt]

The Harrier spit out DPS faster than the Typhoon but if you've got the shields to take a few hits and Typhoon will do more damage over a 3 second span before reloading. Turian Soldier/Destroyer bring out the best in this gun.

Destroyer + Typhoon paired with a Geth engineer is a walking drednought.

[wraith27]

Just got it the other day, opinion is very meh.

I mean, it's a good gun, good damage output and all, but with it's low accuracy it felt like the classic tradeoff, rather than some new UR gun. The startup time wasn't so bad on silver, but I never bothered taking the gun to gold where it would suck, as would the exposure.
Basically feels like just another Revenant to me. Not BAD, but not impressive

5.5/10

Modifié par wraith27, 13 août 2012 - 12:03 .

[MaxShine]

I finally got it today and it is only at lvl 1, but I liked it on the destroyer vs gold reapers. I would prefer the typhoon I over the revenant X, I like the way it handles better. At least it adds more varity, but I would not complain if it got buffed a little bit.

[N7 Whiskey]

Rifneno wrote...


 I don't know jack **** about shooters.

Well that's quite obvious, and since ME3 MP is a shooter, well, I think you know where I'm going with this.

[N7 Whiskey]

wraith27 wrote...

Just got it the other day, opinion is very meh.

I mean, it's a good gun, good damage output and all, but with it's low accuracy it felt like the classic tradeoff, rather than some new UR gun. The startup time wasn't so bad on silver, but I never bothered taking the gun to gold where it would suck, as would the exposure.
Basically feels like just another Revenant to me. Not BAD, but not impressive

5.5/10

Try using soft cover to spool it up, then stepping out just enough to hit your target with fully ramped up damage.  No need to expose yourself to damage just to ramp it up.

[Tonymac]

Its garbage now.

I think that our Allied goals thing will not be met - because the Devs keep nerfing everything under the sun. It makes people mad to have their favorite gun nerfed, or their favorite class smurfed.

They are not making the game fun - and they do not know what fun is, it would seem. I know they mean well, but in all honesty, the game would be more fun if they had not messed with it at all.

[UnknownMercenary]

Gave it a quick whirl at rank 1 on my Destroyer. Using Stability + EB, it shoots straighter than my Revenant X but feels a lot weaker. I'd use AP+EB but I read somewhere that the AP mod is bugged on it. Because of the spool-up time it feels like I have to fire sustained bursts to get the most out of it, whereas the Revenant lets me fire quick bursts.

[Uberschveinen]

Tonymac wrote...

because the Devs keep nerfing everything under the sun.

Don't you ever get tired of being objectively wrong?

[Geth Platforms]

it a gun? i swear it seem like a baseball bat

[OMDB]

Tonymac wrote...

Its garbage now.

I think that our Allied goals thing will not be met - because the Devs keep nerfing everything under the sun. It makes people mad to have their favorite gun nerfed, or their favorite class smurfed.

They are not making the game fun - and they do not know what fun is, it would seem. I know they mean well, but in all honesty, the game would be more fun if they had not messed with it at all.

You hit the nail on the head, it's rubbish now.

[Rifneno]

BuckshotSamurai wrote...

Well that's quite obvious, and since ME3 MP is a shooter, well, I think you know where I'm going with this.

I'd try to explain what a hybrid is to you, but I have a feeling I'd have an easier time explaining algebra to a goldfish.

[mikepaul]

upinya slayin wrote...
I mean somebdy posted a video showing it takes 13 seconds to take down an atlas on gold and it used to take 6.5

I changed the setup of my Destroyer and found that the Typhoon won't kill a Bronze Atlas in one clip like it used to, but I won't say the weapon is the only reason.  One clip being 149 shots.  Wasn't more earlier.

Other 'good' guns don't kill as well for me as they do for others, so I'll stick with the Typhoon...

Ooops.  Just played again and noticed the current clip size is 134.  Fairly sure those 15 shots are the difference in Atlas killing.  Will have to revisit my point usage...

Modifié par mikepaul, 13 août 2012 - 04:20 .

[Dendio1]

Hypertion wrote...

no its trash compaired to the particle rifle.

a weapon with nearly double the weight and limited ammo capacity and bullet spread also doing less damage than a weapon with ok weight, unlimited ammo, perfect aim with no recoil and more weapon damage..



ya thats bioware balance for you!

Particle rifle is the second highest weight assault rifle in game. Not *ok* weight. Its def high end weight.
Particle rifle doesn't do 1.5 times its normal damage against armor, shield and barrier unlike typhoon.
Particle rifle does not have any wall penetration w/o mods unlike typhoon.
Particle rifle takes longer to get into its hyper mode.
Particle rifle cannot be reload canceled

[DAO MAdhatter]

I jst love how everyone who compares the PPR to the typhoon always uses the arguent of not needing ammo. /Sarcasm

The PPR will run out of ammo. Cause if your anything like me, which I garantee you are. You WILL fire off every round, Its habit. Now when you do, the PPR takes like forever to vent its heat(much longer than the typhoons reload) & can not be reload canceled. So that means, when you over heat your gun against something with more power than a tropper your screwed. Unless you have a backup gun, which you wont because you think your ppr doesnt have ammo & thus doesnt need a back up.

So, you know what. My typhoon beats yoru PPR casue I can relaod cancel & shoot that annoying hunter who I just shot my last bullet at in the face while your liying dead on the ground waiting to be revived while your gun finishes it redicuolously long relaod animation.

[N7 Whiskey]

UnknownMercenary wrote...

Gave it a quick whirl at rank 1 on my Destroyer. Using Stability + EB, it shoots straighter than my Revenant X but feels a lot weaker. I'd use AP+EB but I read somewhere that the AP mod is bugged on it. Because of the spool-up time it feels like I have to fire sustained bursts to get the most out of it, whereas the Revenant lets me fire quick bursts.

The Revenant is better for the lower leveled enemies but the Typhoon is better vs bosses.  I think a large portion of the people hating on the Typhoon expect it be better than the Revenant at both, but that would make the Revenant obsolete which isn't BW's goal.

[N7 Whiskey]

Rifneno wrote...

BuckshotSamurai wrote...

Well that's quite obvious, and since ME3 MP is a shooter, well, I think you know where I'm going with this.

I'd try to explain what a hybrid is to you, but I have a feeling I'd have an easier time explaining algebra to a goldfish.

  You sure are a bitter, bitter little boy.