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[mpdx]

Yes, there is no excuse for the excessive plot armor she has given as how everyone else who returns can die at one point or another. I mostly ignored her in the first two games but never in my entire life of gaming do I want a character die as much as Liara, even characters I have hated in other games have never been as bad as her.

[David7204]

By the way, Liara does not have plot armor. And anyone saying she does, you're wrong. It's as simple as that. You're clumsily and carelessly using a term you don't understand.

[Doctoglethorpe]

Such a strange obsession people have, wanting Liara to die so badly.

[Dan Dark]

Seifer006 wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

Seifer006 wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

Seifer006 wrote...


Liara dies in ME2 (because I chose to side with SB)

Would that be the same Shadow Broker was was working with the Collectors to recover Shepard's corpse? Because siding with a de facto ally of the Reapers who also wants Shepard dead, just to kill Liara, totally makes sense.

LOOL

you edited the post. you edited my post. LOL

therefore I'll let you go back reread it. since my intention wasn't just to side with SB

Siding with the Shadow Broker is the problem, regardless of what else you wanted to tack onto that. He is a de facto ally of the Reapers who wants Shepard dead.

Allying with him would make zero sense, which is why Bioware didn't allow the player to do it. That is sort of like arguing that the player should have been able to side with Saren or indoctrinated TIM. Ok sure, so long as that is immediately followed by 'You lose, game over.'

well. It wasn't my Original Intent to side with SB. I guess I could have re-edit that to make clearer (but didn't think I had to) 

My intention was, side with SB just to gain his trust to have the "renegade option" to kill off liara. Then Shepard &...whoever is Shepard Squad mate could fight SB.

But, I perferred Hackett to be the SB replacement. I just think Hackett is a great character.

I was going to try to resist posting anything in this thread, so as not to prolong it's existence, but I just had to respond to this.

OP... might I ask what you're smoking? Because how on any planet would it make sense to pretend to side with an enemy, just to let him kill a close ally of your's, and then turn around and kill him, too? If you're going to kill him anyway, what the heck is the point in letting him kill someone on your team? Seriously, that wouldn't be a "Renegade" option - it'd be "Chaotic Stupid."

Also, though Hackett is an alright character, it would make absolutely NO sense whatsoever to have him suddenly become the Shadow Broker. He's a career military man, and one of the highest ranking Alliance officers around, even before the Reapers show up - he's not going to just suddenly drop all of that and abandon the military to run off and play at intel trading.

[Comsky159]

I'd kill her off if I could. It'd be a personal selling point in any case.

[SovereignWillReturn]

I would pay for this DLC.

[Binary_Helix 1]

I want to see her die gruesomely.

[o Ventus]

I'm not sure if I would *want* it per se, but if killing off Liara meant another person would take her place on the squad (Miranda, preferably), I'd do it on the spot.

[billzo]

DEFINITELY.

[Kataphrut94]

The great thing about these sorts of threads is that we can look back at them a year from now when Bioware has most emphatically not released a DLC for the arbitrary purpose of killing off a major character to please a tiny, sociopathic percentage of the fanbase.

Then we can all laugh at how stupid and pathetic these people look, going on about 'plot armour', 'writer's pets' and 'forced relationships'. Wake up, guys. Aside from being factually incorrect, these are all idiotic, fanboyish reasons to dislike a character. No one in their right mind would consider these valid reasons to support killing off a character, especially not one as plot-important and well-liked as Liara.

[o Ventus]

Kataphrut94 wrote...

The great thing about these sorts of threads is that we can look back at them a year from now when Bioware has most emphatically not released a DLC for the arbitrary purpose of killing off a major character to please a tiny, sociopathic percentage of the fanbase.

Then we can all laugh at how stupid and pathetic these people look, going on about 'plot armour', 'writer's pets' and 'forced relationships'. Wake up, guys. Aside from being factually incorrect, these are all idiotic, fanboyish reasons to dislike a character. No one in their right mind would consider these valid reasons to support killing off a character, especially not one as plot-important and well-liked as Liara.

So do you typically post something other than general attacks against "these people", or have you really never been hugged before?

[revo76]

 If this question would be:
'If James Could Be Killed in a Future DLC, Would Fans Want This?'
Reply:

[JBPBRC]

I only visit every so often these days but...

Have the forums gotten to the point where people are asking about DLC to kill off companions?

I miss the sanity (ha!) of the older topics.

Primitives!

[Katosu]

Less than just an option that says, 'Shoot Liara in the Face repeatedly with a Plasma Cannon', I think people are moreso saying they want to see a DLC where there is the potential for death of the character. This doesn't have to be in the form of 'I'm commander shepard, and this is my favorite brain-exploding sniper rifle on the citadel!', so much as they'd like there to be an opportunity for the loss of a character that they may not feel 'fits in' with their Shepard's story.

This is really why I still think the Suicide Mission was ingenious. You HAD the choice of ANY of your members dying - but NONE of those choices would make your Shepard as sociopath. It was a mission where, from an OoC standpoint, you could put your shepard through great loss of his companions and maintain character, while OoCly allowing you the joy of managing your own crew and culling some of the numbers.

Would it be Sociopathic if during the Suicide mission, I decided that Tali, Garrus, and Mordin all should die? No, it is the building of my Shepard's story that I found fascinating, and while I personally would never do it, I positively LOVE bioware's choice in making that mission with such heavy consequences.

[VelvetStraitjacket]

Yes, I want her boring blueberry butt to stay out of my game.

[ChrisRudson]

Speezy wrote...



I think this sums up Liara pretty well too.

I concur!
Also, have I no say in Liara just taking Miranda's Office? The first thing I wanted to tell her when Shepard first saw her in that office was "GET THE **** OUT OF Miranda's OFFICE!!!". But, hey, Bioware loves Liara.

Modifié par ChrisRudson, 11 août 2012 - 03:28 .

[Pitznik]

ChrisRudson wrote...

I concur!
Also, have I no say in Liara just taking Miranda's Office? The first thing I wanted to tell her when Shepard first so her in that office was "GET THE **** OUT OF Miranda's OFFICE!!!". But, hey, Bioware loves Liara.

Shepard likes Liara. Each and every Shepard. There are some things you just can't change about Shepard, and this is one of them.

[Han Shot First]

Kataphrut94 wrote...

Then we can all laugh at how stupid and pathetic these people look, going on about 'plot armour', 'writer's pets' and 'forced relationships'. Wake up, guys. Aside from being factually incorrect, these are all idiotic, fanboyish reasons to dislike a character. No one in their right mind would consider these valid reasons to support killing off a character, especially not one as plot-important and well-liked as Liara.

[ChrisRudson]

Pitznik wrote...

ChrisRudson wrote...

I concur!
Also, have I no say in Liara just taking Miranda's Office? The first thing I wanted to tell her when Shepard first saw her in that office was "GET THE **** OUT OF Miranda's OFFICE!!!". But, hey, Bioware loves Liara.

Shepard likes Liara. Each and every Shepard. There are some things you just can't change about Shepard, and this is one of them.

I actually agree quite a bit. That Shepard likes Liara(Not Me though). I don't know if it's just me, but I haven't seen any dialogue of Shepard trying to push or being mad at Liara in any context.

To add something: I used to nickname her as the "Shallow Ocean" on Mass Effect, the "Blue Devil" on ME2, and pretty much I still don't have a nickname for her on ME3. I'll let you know asap if I ever think of one.

Modifié par ChrisRudson, 11 août 2012 - 03:36 .

[ChrisRudson]

Binary_Helix 1 wrote...

I want to see her die gruesomely.

How about she falls into a floor trap leading into a pool of Ravager filth(you know the gooey dark green filth thingy), wherein her body would be liquified as she screams horribly out of terrible pain. As that happens we can see her skull and pretty much almost every bone as her skin, muscles etc. melts.

Gruesome enough? Or do I have to do better?

Modifié par ChrisRudson, 11 août 2012 - 03:38 .

[dublin omega 223]

I think the choice should be allowed, for those that want the option.