It's retarded to know for sure someone you know and journneyed with truly died or not, and to make sure it did no end up in alien hands to be messed around with?Speezy wrote...
Mr.House wrote...
Liara didn't want to bring Shepard back to life, she didn't even know that was Cerberus true motives until Miranda told Liara what Cerberus was going to do when Liara had the body. Liara just wanted to retrieve the body and give Shepard a proper burial.
Wow.
That's retarded.
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Thats my point, im refuting the people who claim that it was Miranda alone who brought Shep back, meanwhile Liara got the actual bodyMACharlie1 wrote...
Then are they not of equal importance to Shepard?ForThessia wrote...
exactly, im just saying that it took both of them to do it.MACharlie1 wrote...
And how is Liara going to bring Shep back without resources and the smarts to do it? We're at a paradox here.ForThessia wrote...
And how is Miranda going to bring shep back to life without a body?MACharlie1 wrote...
I'm not sure if the Shadow Broker is reallyt the largest criminal oganization. It's the most profitable to be sure.Baronesa wrote...
*snip*
Don't wan't Liara? then let's assume she never recovered your body on ME2... have fun
And lets not forget: Miss Lawson is the one who brought it back to life and then told one of the most powerful men in the galaxy to go **** himself. Only fair to say...
Speezy wrote...
Hmmm.
What reason could the terrorist organization want with Shepard's body? Oh, I guess they just want to bury her. That sounds right.
Then why can Miranda die for 6 reasons and Liara only once? Like I said, people want to off her because she's gets favored and is a HUGE Marysue.ForThessia wrote...
Thats my point, im refuting the people who claim that it was Miranda alone who brought Shep back, meanwhile Liara got the actual bodyMACharlie1 wrote...
Then are they not of equal importance to Shepard?ForThessia wrote...
exactly, im just saying that it took both of them to do it.MACharlie1 wrote...
And how is Liara going to bring Shep back without resources and the smarts to do it? We're at a paradox here.ForThessia wrote...
And how is Miranda going to bring shep back to life without a body?MACharlie1 wrote...
I'm not sure if the Shadow Broker is reallyt the largest criminal oganization. It's the most profitable to be sure.Baronesa wrote...
*snip*
Don't wan't Liara? then let's assume she never recovered your body on ME2... have fun
And lets not forget: Miss Lawson is the one who brought it back to life and then told one of the most powerful men in the galaxy to go **** himself. Only fair to say...
Both of them were needed to bring Shep back and therefore are of equal importance.
MACharlie1 wrote...
And how is Liara going to bring Shep back without resources and the smarts to do it? We're at a paradox here.
Speezy wrote...
agu123 wrote...
-knock on door
-person doesn't respond because he's asleep
-knock again
-person wakes up
-LOL WHY WAS SHE WAITING OUT THERE 4 ME SHE'S SUCH A STALKER
If by stalker you mean that she took a piece of Shepard's armor for herself, then I agree that was rather creepy, but I remember Legion did the same thing. He even replaced a missing part of his body with a piece of Shepard's armor, and guess what? Nobody's saying a thing about Legion being a stalker when he was arguably Shepard's #1 fan in ME2.
Legion is a robot that doesn't know about boundries.
Liara is an organic that should know making a shrine to a living person is kinda ****ing creepy.
The only things that creeped me out really was when I played LOTSB and she owned that portion of my armor, the great lengths she went to recover me when I barely talk to her in ME1 for playthroughs where I don't romance her, and that one time she was waiting in my cabin.agu123 wrote...
Baa Baa wrote...
When you wake up and she's waiting there for you it does come off as a bit stalkerish.Mr.House wrote...
Liara has stalker scenes? Oh you mean those two scenes where she gives you intel and tells you important stuff in your room? That's stalking?Shaleist wrote...
1. Remove Stalker Liara scenes.
2. Add sqaudmates.
3.????????
4.Profit
-knock on door
-person doesn't respond because he's asleep
-knock again
-person wakes up
-LOL WHY WAS SHE WAITING OUT THERE 4 ME SHE'S SUCH A STALKER
If by stalker you mean that she took a piece of Shepard's armor for herself, then I agree that was rather creepy, but I remember Legion did the same thing. He even replaced a missing part of his body with a piece of Shepard's armor, and guess what? Nobody's saying a thing about Legion being a stalker when he was arguably Shepard's #1 fan in ME2.
Modifié par Baa Baa, 10 août 2012 - 09:05 .
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No diffrent then Tali treating you like a good friend or worsde, wants to romance oyu if you treated her like crap in ME, didn't give her the data, gave that quarian to Cerberus and you are pro-Cerberus, as long as you don't give the board the evidence Tali will still want to romance you no matter what or consider you a great friendBaa Baa wrote...
The only things that creeped me out really was when I played LOTSB and she owned that portion of my armor, the great lengths she went to recover me when I barely talk to her in ME1 for playthroughs where I don't romance her, and that one time she was waiting in my cabin.agu123 wrote...
Baa Baa wrote...
When you wake up and she's waiting there for you it does come off as a bit stalkerish.Mr.House wrote...
Liara has stalker scenes? Oh you mean those two scenes where she gives you intel and tells you important stuff in your room? That's stalking?Shaleist wrote...
1. Remove Stalker Liara scenes.
2. Add sqaudmates.
3.????????
4.Profit
-knock on door
-person doesn't respond because he's asleep
-knock again
-person wakes up
-LOL WHY WAS SHE WAITING OUT THERE 4 ME SHE'S SUCH A STALKER
If by stalker you mean that she took a piece of Shepard's armor for herself, then I agree that was rather creepy, but I remember Legion did the same thing. He even replaced a missing part of his body with a piece of Shepard's armor, and guess what? Nobody's saying a thing about Legion being a stalker when he was arguably Shepard's #1 fan in ME2.
It didn't feel weird for Legion though. Legion is a machine so he wouldn't be sexually attracted to Shepard or anything like that, and Legion wearing Shepard's armor was actually a pretty cool addition I thought, it made it seem like he admired Shepard. And I kind of like those moments in Mass Effect where they show a more human side to AI.
Mumba1511 wrote...
Can anyone explain to me why the heck Miranda doesn't simply tell you where Cronos station is? She's been there ffs.
"My favorite character doesnt get the most screen time, so the character that does must die"MACharlie1 wrote...
Then why can Miranda die for 6 reasons and Liara only once? Like I said, people want to off her because she's gets favored and is a HUGE Marysue.ForThessia wrote...
Thats my point, im refuting the people who claim that it was Miranda alone who brought Shep back, meanwhile Liara got the actual bodyMACharlie1 wrote...
Then are they not of equal importance to Shepard?ForThessia wrote...
exactly, im just saying that it took both of them to do it.MACharlie1 wrote...
And how is Liara going to bring Shep back without resources and the smarts to do it? We're at a paradox here.ForThessia wrote...
And how is Miranda going to bring shep back to life without a body?MACharlie1 wrote...
I'm not sure if the Shadow Broker is reallyt the largest criminal oganization. It's the most profitable to be sure.Baronesa wrote...
*snip*
Don't wan't Liara? then let's assume she never recovered your body on ME2... have fun
And lets not forget: Miss Lawson is the one who brought it back to life and then told one of the most powerful men in the galaxy to go **** himself. Only fair to say...
Both of them were needed to bring Shep back and therefore are of equal importance.
Han Shot First wrote...
Here is what this thread is really about:
Seifer is a bitter Thanemancer who is angry that his Shep's space boyfriend is taking a permanent dirt nap. He expresses that anger by posting multiple Liara hate threads, because Liara is 1) a squadmate in ME3 whereas Thane is not, 2) is alive in most playthroughs while Thane is not, and 3) is at the top of the heap as far as ME3 squadmate screentime goes.
In short, every one of Seifer's Liara threads can be summarized with this image:
Unfortunately for Seifer all the tears in the world won't be resurrecting Thane.
MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...
Maybe. I don't want to get banned if I complain how much she's EVERYWHERE and how annoying it is.[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/angry.png[/smilie]
Mr.House wrote...
Fun fact: Sam was never ment to give you those two side missions, Liara was. Bioware changed that so Sam would have stuff to do. Also Liara does give you intel and is helping the cruible project.Speezy wrote...
Isn't Liara supposed to be giving me intel?
She's a bad Shadow Broker.
Make Traynor the Shadow Broker.
Liara (or Jacob, if he's alive) directs you towards an important asset in the bolstering of the device, ex-Cerberus scientist and Prothean expert KENESIA. Kenesia is also Jacob's beautiful ex-girlfriend.
When Kenesia experienced the Illusive Man's indoctrination firsthand, she fled Cerberus in the night. She now runs a secret, scientific enclave on a remote planet, having convinced many of the most brilliant minds in the galaxy to join her.
Knowing that the enclave is in immediate jeopardy, you rush to the outpost. You try to convince Kenesia that the colony's only hope is to evacuate. Kenesia resists, saying that nothing could make them abandon their ideals. You point to the Cerberus forces already amassing on their doorstep. When one of her colleagues is violently killed, Kenesia wakes to reality and agrees to the colony's evacuation. You and your team prepare a defense, while the enclave gets ready to evacuate. In the shadow of the coming battle, you and Kenesia (and Jacob if he's alive) talk about life, love and hope for humanity in the face of impossible odds.
Cerberus mounts a massive assault and the battle rages until the last living scientist boards a shuttle and leaves the planet.
You land on Rannoch and fight geth forces. They are still under Reaper control, but are less effective due to the loss of the dreadnought. EDI traces the Reaper signal, and the aggressive quarian Flotilla assaults the geth fleet instead of retreating. EDI finds the Reaper's location, and you destroy the multi-story Reaper mastermind, fighting in the Hammerhead, on foot, and even climbing onto the Reaper to deliver the killing shot. When it's dead, the geth become momentarily helpless, and Shepard decides whether to let the quarians destroy the geth or use the coded signal from the now-dead Reaper to bring the geth up to a true state of intelligence. Either way, you get the fleet you needs to retake Earth.
You receive a message from Liara's Shadow Broker networks. There is intel about a secret asari vault which holds an important Prothean artifact. It may be a component of the Bomb, so you should head to the asari homeworld to investigate.
The Illusive Man offers to give Miranda's father the location of both his daughters, Miranda and Oriana, if the father supports the Illusive Man in this war by setting up, and running, a special facility to herd refugees from other planets to be handed over to the Reapers. The father agrees.
Early in ME3 Miranda, if alive, sends an email to Shepard saying that she has learned her father and Cerberus are back in business. A second email is recieved saying that Oriana is in trouble, and that Miranda is tracking her down. After the email, we don't hear from Miranda again. After Cat 2, Shepard asks his crew for anything on Cerberus. Shepard is concerned because Miranda cannot be reached to talk about her father's connection to the Illusive Man. EDI/Liara finds lots of transports going to Cerberus controlled locations from a place dubbed 'Sanctuary'- a refugee camp built into a massive genetic research and production facility. The objective of this mission to get to Miranda's father- he has a direct line to the Illusive Man. Shepard needs to find the Illusive Man at all costs.
Agree.jlb524 wrote...
I think they should make this DLC.
It wouldn't cost all that much to implemented it and they could totally sell it for 10 bucks and milk a lot of money from the people who are so upset about this that they constantly make/post in threads about Liara.
Baronesa wrote...
Don't wan't Liara? then let's assume she never recovered your body on ME2... have fun
Nope. She's a high ranking officer in Cerberus, her not knowing is illogical.F4H bandicoot wrote...
Mumba1511 wrote...
Can anyone explain to me why the heck Miranda doesn't simply tell you where Cronos station is? She's been there ffs.
Maybe she doesn't know??
You know, she could have been put in a windowless cabin, with no tech allowed etc. Just because you have been somewhere doesn't eman you know here it is.
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Modifié par Speezy, 10 août 2012 - 09:15 .
Mumba1511 wrote...
Nope. She's a high ranking officer in Cerberus, her not knowing is illogical.F4H bandicoot wrote...
Mumba1511 wrote...
Can anyone explain to me why the heck Miranda doesn't simply tell you where Cronos station is? She's been there ffs.
Maybe she doesn't know??
You know, she could have been put in a windowless cabin, with no tech allowed etc. Just because you have been somewhere doesn't eman you know here it is.
Nightwriter wrote...
Her presence in those cabin scenes wasn't irritating to me because she was "stalking" me or because I felt that my privacy was being invaded. It was irritating because she was the one there to comfort me, but she wasn't who I wanted.
Romantic relationships are about more than romance. They're about companionship, mutual support, the act of comforting one another. These things strengthen the relationship. What BioWare was doing was strengthening my relationship with Liara while my relationship with my LI withered for lack of content. How can I be with my chosen love interest if the game forces me to have a stronger relationship with someone else?
And again, it's not Liara's fault. The games had established that we were friends and it was valid for her to be there. It just wasn't what I wanted.
Baa Baa wrote...
The only things that creeped me out really was when I played LOTSB and she owned that portion of my armor, the great lengths she went to recover me when I barely talk to her in ME1 for playthroughs where I don't romance her, and that one time she was waiting in my cabin.
I must have remembered the waking up part wrong, I haven't played ME3 in a while.
It didn't feel weird for Legion though. Legion is a machine so he wouldn't be sexually attracted to Shepard or anything like that, and Legion wearing Shepard's armor was actually a pretty cool addition I thought, it made it seem like he admired Shepard. And I kind of like those moments in Mass Effect where they show a more human side to AI.
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