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Why Biotic and Electric Slash NEED Re-working


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xtorma

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I know what is best for you , and what is best for the game. I would rather run off the people that are having fun the wrong way, then allow them to run off the other people that are having fun the right way.

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Srsly, you ppl are pathetic, why you get so annoyed by the way others play? It is a CO-OP, is not like he's playing vs you, don't like the player just kick him. When I play with my Slayer against Biotic/ Eletric Slash Spammer I always get away better score than them so if that player doesn't jeopardize the sucess of the team I don't care the way they play...

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Father_Jerusalem

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You heard it here first, folks.

Killing enemies and doing what you can to help win the match is "annoying".

How dare they try and contribute, I mean REALLY. Gosh.

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JonnHatch wrote...
This wasn't a farming game for me. I did a Gold/Random/Random Quick Match and ended up in that lobby. I used an N7 Paladin with N7 Hurricane IV and Acolyte X. I just quit and started recording the match because it was hilarious/annoying. But I just can't take a match seriously anymore when these types of guys play, and spam that all over the place. Knocks any enemies out of the way before I can get close enough to use snap freeze or OmniShield, knocks them out of the way of my line of fire. shakes my screen, etc..  Just ANNOYING.


stop whining, it is not difficult to aim when the screen shakes... Next time you will complain that the enemies move or what?

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Meanwhile you sit there and observe, offering nothing to the team.

I understand where you're coming from, and if Bioware were to change the ability, it'd be expected. But as it stands, both slashes do insane damage, with great range and breadth. The vanguard could be out there charging, shooting or using phase disruptor - none of which would touch the damage and effectiveness of slash. When I play the Slayer, the only time I'm using slash is for groups I'd be too wary of charging into. Spamming was never necessary, but I agree that it's powerful to the point it's inevitably going to be over used.

As for the Shadow... I'm not even surprised. I think I've come across maybe two Shadow players who weren't using a sniper or assault rifle.

Seriously, an sniper rifle? On a Shadow? Would be nice if they actually used Shadow Strike once in a blue moon.

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Homey C-Dawg

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Biotic and electric slash do NOT need to be reworked just because people spam them in farming games.

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I'll admit to using that while farming in fbw/g/g. I'm guilty. But I only used it to kill off the first few attackers, then I join the team and start using other tactics. I hardly farm anymore and now use this technique when we're overwhelmed and I really can't be in the open as a phantom. They die within seconds if you can't use it behind cover.

If there needs to be a fix for electric slash, then they need to give her more shields/health to counter balance. That way you can use her on open targets without getting killed immediately. Unless... I'm not using her right....

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I could care less about the power being spammed through walls. The problem is it slows everything down to a crawl. Who the hell can't farm without spamming those powers?

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Why do powers exist that go through walls? That does not make any sence at all. That´s just cheap.

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100RenegadePoints wrote...

JonnHatch wrote...
This wasn't a farming game for me. I did a Gold/Random/Random Quick Match and ended up in that lobby. I used an N7 Paladin with N7 Hurricane IV and Acolyte X. I just quit and started recording the match because it was hilarious/annoying. But I just can't take a match seriously anymore when these types of guys play, and spam that all over the place. Knocks any enemies out of the way before I can get close enough to use snap freeze or OmniShield, knocks them out of the way of my line of fire. shakes my screen, etc..  Just ANNOYING.


stop whining, it is not difficult to aim when the screen shakes... Next time you will complain that the enemies move or what?



Of course I complain that the enemies move. If I pay 60 dollars for a game, that enemy better STAY STILL THE WHOLE TIME so I can spam BS on his arse :)

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Go play COD.

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Nitrocuban wrote...

Why do powers exist that go through walls? That does not make any sence at all. That´s just cheap.


Ok, then position yourself before a marauder on gold/platinum without cover then try to use smash or uncloaked electric slash. Then return to this forum and tell us the result.

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quack123 wrote...

InsomniaticMeat wrote...

I wish they'd just make sure the Slash powers don't go through walls. That way they have to get out into the open - And since the powers doesn't allow them to activate it while in cover.. Well.. You do the math on that one.

I bet it would be funny, too.

then it would just be a useless power if it coldn't go through walls


Yes, and it would be called "Shockwave"

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DarkRPG wrote...

Wow, people cry here a lot. Who cares, let them have their fun and you have yours. Score means nothing, you all get the same credits and experience.

I'd rather have a spammer who do damage, than carrying people who never use rockets or medigels.


This, a million times over. I'm getting an image of a child on a playground pouting because some other kids aren't playing the game within the tight rules and boundaries he wants them to. Grow up. Do I spam Electric/Biotic slash? No. Are there spammers in my games? Yes. Get over it.

People find the dumbest ways to complain -- in co-op games, no less.

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100RenegadePoints wrote...

Nitrocuban wrote...

Why do powers exist that go through walls? That does not make any sence at all. That´s just cheap.


Ok, then position yourself before a marauder on gold/platinum without cover then try to use smash or uncloaked electric slash. Then return to this forum and tell us the result.


Flawed design is no solid reasoning for stupid abilities that ignore walls.

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xtorma wrote...

I know what is best for you , and what is best for the game. I would rather run off the people that are having fun the wrong way, then allow them to run off the other people that are having fun the right way.


Thing is, most people are having fun the wrong way in the eyes of this forum.  If you run off 80% of the player base, you won't be able to have a game at all. So your fun will be spoiled too. 

People have to remember that many play this game A) casually B) cyclically.  They will get a new toy like slash and spam it for a week, get tired of it and move on to something else.  Further, there will always be something cheap and easy to use.  If you take this away, they will either find something else or play something else more fun. Again, taking away player base and ruining your fun.  Be careful what you wish for!

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JonnHatch wrote...
Of course I complain that the enemies move. If I pay 60 dollars for a game, that enemy better STAY STILL THE WHOLE TIME so I can spam BS on his arse :)


well, good that you have a sense of humor... So do not be annoyed when that screen is shaking, stay calm, aim and your shot will find the target...

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And people wonder why people hate nerfers?! This is a prime example. I'd like to see some "balacers"/"Nerfers" helping put the kabosh on bad ideas like this.

"OH MAH GAH!! POWAH ANNOYIN'!! NERF IT!! NERF IT DEAD!!!" which is basically all this nerf attempt ammounts to, and no it's not a good reason.

I tell you what, if you don't like a power that goes through walls, -you- play the class as if the power didn't go through walls. No cover penetration, no wall penetration, you're out in the open. See how long you last, and how much you like it.

Don't ask us to do something you wouldn't do yourself. 'z just being an ass.

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I dont really care if they want to sit around spamming one ability, but it would be nice if that ability wasnt causing my screen to have epileptic seizures.

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Nitrocuban wrote...

Why do powers exist that go through walls? That does not make any sence at all. That´s just cheap.


Try not to make real life sense of a game mechanic in a game that is set in the future. You would have so many targets to make sense of, that your brain would explode.

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Homey C-Dawg wrote...

Biotic and electric slash do NOT need to be reworked just because people spam them in farming games.


This.

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Rebel_Raven wrote...

And people wonder why people hate nerfers?! This is a prime example. I'd like to see some "balacers"/"Nerfers" helping put the kabosh on bad ideas like this.

"OH MAH GAH!! POWAH ANNOYIN'!! NERF IT!! NERF IT DEAD!!!" which is basically all this nerf attempt ammounts to, and no it's not a good reason.

I tell you what, if you don't like a power that goes through walls, -you- play the class as if the power didn't go through walls. No cover penetration, no wall penetration, you're out in the open. See how long you last, and how much you like it.

Don't ask us to do something you wouldn't do yourself. 'z just being an ass.


I love watching people warp out to assassinate something with the shadow on platinum.  I can't even count to 5 before theyre dead.

This is just a "STOP OUTSCORING ME" thread.

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Farmers gunna farm. No sense getting all torqued up about it.

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AY DON TALK **** YO DEY GOT DAT MAD SKILLZ

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Rebel_Raven wrote...

And people wonder why people hate nerfers?! This is a prime example. I'd like to see some "balacers"/"Nerfers" helping put the kabosh on bad ideas like this.

"OH MAH GAH!! POWAH ANNOYIN'!! NERF IT!! NERF IT DEAD!!!" which is basically all this nerf attempt ammounts to, and no it's not a good reason.

I tell you what, if you don't like a power that goes through walls, -you- play the class as if the power didn't go through walls. No cover penetration, no wall penetration, you're out in the open. See how long you last, and how much you like it.

Don't ask us to do something you wouldn't do yourself. 'z just being an ass.


"If someone disagree with me he is stupid", taht's quite nice.

  The "Don't like it, don' use it argument" doesn't work when it comes to balance there is an intended challenge level that must be kept.