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[DarkRPG]

Nitrocuban wrote...

100RenegadePoints wrote...

Nitrocuban wrote...

Why do powers exist that go through walls? That does not make any sence at all. That´s just cheap.

Ok, then position yourself before a marauder on gold/platinum without cover then try to use smash or uncloaked electric slash. Then return to this forum and tell us the result.

That makes no sense, it´s like making an enemy faction stronger to stop players expoliting poor map design and ...
oh, wait.
Never mind.

Yep, before they nerfed geth to hell and buffed enemies far too much...my Geth ENGINEER (not inflitrator) could out score most people doing two things:  using my GPS in hunter mode, and overloading.  My healing drone for support on FBWGG helped also.  100k plus scores.  And I was playing with all my class skills and it was FUN.  I still like playing that engineer build but he is far weaker now, doesn't do the sweet headshots, and I'm still super squishy.  He is not as fun as he once was, and not as useful to the group.

Point is people complain, nerfs happen, game is less fun.  It's a coop game, this isn't PvP where everything needs to be balanced with each other.  Even silver is harder than it used to be, so just trying out fun (but not powerful) builds is reserved for bronze now.  Removing headshots damage alone for most bosses killed much of this game.  I have theory to all this, I'll post elsewhere.

Modifié par DarkRPG, 10 août 2012 - 08:21 .

[Absolute86]

Seems that every silver match i play in these days, there is always some scrub doing this same thing.

[Rebel_Raven]

Strict31 wrote...

I've been hit by Marauders whose bullets followed me around a corner. That is, they started shooting me while I was out in the open, and I ducked around a corner to break their line of fire. But even after I was out of their line of fire, I kept getting hit.

First time this happened, I thought maybe I was being hit by another enemy. But this happens even when there's no one else in the room I just dodged into.

And it's not just Marauders. I've had it happen with all sorts of enemies. I'd like to chalk it up to lag, but it persists no matter who hosts. And there's just no way that Geth Prime example above was due to lag. I've seen way too many enemies targeting players when they have no way to see them.

I remember one time in particular, playing as a Geth with Hunter Mode active, I watched as a Cannibal tracked several other players through the floor.

That's crazy! X(

And I've noticed enemies tracking my allies, too! Even shooting at them when there's walls in the way, too. You can't underestimate them. They have advantages to make up for being CPU controlled, and it's no secret a lot of games use the same tactics to be compeditive with a player, or a group of players.

I'm still trying to figoure out how grenades follow shadow strikes, though. Cerberus Trooper throws a grenade at me from a few dozen feet away. I see the indicator, and I'm all "HA!" and I shadow strike. I warp well out of the blast radius of a grenade, and yet the indicator follows me! Not only that it shows all for arrows inficating the grenade is right infront of me when I start to slash.

I've dodged grenade blasts with a quarian hop, yet instantly traversing the flight path of a grenade fails?

[ACID343211]

JonnHatch wrote...

youtu.be/iGktId9bpy4


Seriously, I end up with people like this 8 OUT OF 10 MATCHES. Bioware, is this what you want out of your game? A button masher??

What busniess is it of yours how hes playing why don't you help your TEAM.

Players like you is making me wish i never bought this game.

Modifié par ACID343211, 10 août 2012 - 10:47 .

[Lukeman1884]

Yes, because hiding behind the counter spamming the grab button every time an indicator pops up isn't button-mashing, is it? It's FBW camping. What do you expect?

Modifié par Lukeman1884, 10 août 2012 - 08:26 .

[Seneva]

Looks like the nerfherders found another skill to **** about

[AresKeith]

Rebel_Raven wrote...

Strict31 wrote...

I've been hit by Marauders whose bullets followed me around a corner. That is, they started shooting me while I was out in the open, and I ducked around a corner to break their line of fire. But even after I was out of their line of fire, I kept getting hit.

First time this happened, I thought maybe I was being hit by another enemy. But this happens even when there's no one else in the room I just dodged into.

And it's not just Marauders. I've had it happen with all sorts of enemies. I'd like to chalk it up to lag, but it persists no matter who hosts. And there's just no way that Geth Prime example above was due to lag. I've seen way too many enemies targeting players when they have no way to see them.

I remember one time in particular, playing as a Geth with Hunter Mode active, I watched as a Cannibal tracked several other players through the floor.

That's crazy! X(

And I've noticed enemies tracking my allies, too! Even shooting at them when there's walls in the way, too. You can't underestimate them. They have advantages to make up for being CPU controlled, and it's no secret a lot of games use the same tactics to be compeditive with a player, or a group of players.

I'm still trying to figoure out how grenades follow shadow strikes, though. Cerberus Trooper throws a grenade at me from a few dozen feet away. I see the indicator, and I'm all "HA!" and I shadow strike. I warp well out of the blast radius of a grenade, and yet the indicator follows me! Not only that it shows all for arrows inficating the grenade is right infront of me when I start to slash.

I've dodged grenade blasts with a quarian hop, yet instantly traversing the flight path of a grenade fails?

I guess its the EA servers trying to troll

[DVS27t]

MingoStarr wrote...

I'd rather have a spammer/camper over somebody who requires constant carrying/reviving. If they want to play the game using one button, by all means, go right ahead. As long as you aren't making my job harder, I don't care what you do.

This is the hilarity of it all.  One week, an idiot will talk about how bad players are and how they should stay out of gold.  The next week, that same idiot will talk about how cheap something is and that it should be nerfed, not realizing that what they are complaining about solved their complaint from the week before.  Its the circle of retardation.  Next week, back to whining about bad teammates.

[Spartan051K]

All Im reading is: they did better than me, Bioware give me a handicap.
Your handicap is bronze.
Wow that was an easy fix, now to solve world peace...

[OuterRim]

Spamming the slash button is no different then spamming the trigger button for your gun. What's the big deal/ Just another BS complaint thread.

[apascone]

I like how you took 1 minute 5 seconds to take a video and stand there doing nothing not helping your team in anyway. This way you had proof to complain about. That is ironic and really cool.

But yea I agree with you, that is extremely annoying. I hate campers. I hate playing on firebase white with geth.

[Uchimura]

FIREBASE WHITE

[Spartan051K]

As long as they are killing or doing a good amount of damage to enemies I see no reason to complain. Everyone gets an even share of points and xp. If you don't like the way they are playing leave the game. Now if they were just standing around watching you do all the work Im sure you would be complaining too.

[Miniditka77]

Trippid wrote...

As for the Shadow... I'm not even surprised. I think I've come across maybe two Shadow players who weren't using a sniper or assault rifle.

Seriously, an sniper rifle? On a Shadow? Would be nice if they actually used Shadow Strike once in a blue moon.

Oh, I love the Shadow with a Talon or Wraith and TC specced for duration and bonus power.  You can do a Shadow Strike every 2 seconds or so and use your shotgun to finish off what the SS didn't kill.  Electric Slash works great for crowds of enemies or setting off Tech Bursts.  I only spam electric slash if I'm trying to take down a Banshee or a Brute.  It's boring if that's all you do.

[retic]

Leave. Them. Alone.

I'd be happy to be in a team consisting of 3 shadows spamming nothing electric slash while I play the lone Krogan soldier restricted to medic duty if it means I get to complete plat playthroughs one after another. Ooooh. I placed 4th. Big deal. I still get moolah to buy more plat packs to upgrade (hopefully) my R and UR weapons...and finally unlock that N7 Paladin.

Last i checked, everybody gets the same credit payout regardless if they topped the scoreboard with 900k or placed last with 100 points. Oh and uh....this IS NOT pvp! Last I checked, game balancing is meant for "competitive" games, NOT cooperative games. O.o

If you haven't noticed....you kids got your wishes granted in the form of nerfing the typhoon, destroyer and the pirahnas. What....you want to ensure MP is only playable using avenger X's and overload spam? Oh and the spam nerf?....totally uncalled for.

[gethinych]

I like how OP has stayed cool & stuck to his/her guns (no pun intended) throughout this thread.  I don't use the slashes myself (they feel either cheap or dangerous) but wouldn't want to stop anyone else doing so. The next lobby is always the one to look forward to...

Edited for unwarranted gender assumptions.

Modifié par gethinych, 10 août 2012 - 09:25 .

[infithehuman]

JonnHatch wrote...

Longer cool-down, and no wall penetration would completely fix the massive amount of abuse this has been getting. The other two powers for Shadow and Slayer even out well. They are both really fun classes to play without even having the Slash. I use the slash only for crowd control if I'm in a fix. I would much rather cut somebody head off with a flaming sword or pop some heads, but thats just me, and Im sure my opinion doesnt count haha

Really BAD idea. Slayer already sucks. (well except for those who spam...)The PD is useless, charge not that viable on gold, squishy, the animation takes too long so charge + slash not an option, no DR for heavy melee...

So NO. Already the slayer feels like a shadow who failed the N7 course....

[Booshnickins]

If you play on other maps, those powers aren't even half as effective as they are on that one.

[Kenadian]

What needs changing is that GOD DAMN SCREEN SHAKING. I'M TRYING TO SHOOT HERE PEOPLE!

[DVS27t]

Spartan051K wrote...

All Im reading is: they did better than me, Bioware give me a handicap.
Your handicap is bronze.
Wow that was an easy fix, now to solve world peace...

*high five*

[Nelzeben]

No. I'm sorry you seem to run into a lot of people who do that, but I never do. Unless it's FBWGG, I've never seen anyone sit there for the entire match and spam Biotic/Electric Slash. Also, unless the map is Glacier/White, that technique isn't going to be very viable anyway.

I strongly disagree with nerfing/changing a power simply because some people use it in a monotonous way. Besides, if you were farming... well, don't complain about people using boring, but effective ways of fighting. (If the match was set to random and ended up being FBW/C, that sucks, but I'm sure the novelty of those powers will wear off eventually.)

[Strict31]

infithehuman wrote...

JonnHatch wrote...

Longer cool-down, and no wall penetration would completely fix the massive amount of abuse this has been getting. The other two powers for Shadow and Slayer even out well. They are both really fun classes to play without even having the Slash. I use the slash only for crowd control if I'm in a fix. I would much rather cut somebody head off with a flaming sword or pop some heads, but thats just me, and Im sure my opinion doesnt count haha

Really BAD idea. Slayer already sucks. (well except for those who spam...)The PD is useless, charge not that viable on gold, squishy, the animation takes too long so charge + slash not an option, no DR for heavy melee...

So NO. Already the slayer feels like a shadow who failed the N7 course....

I used to think the Slayer sucked. 

Then, I changed my perspective to come at the character a little differently. Sorta like what I did with the Vorcha. I thought he sucked as well until I simply started playing him in a different manner than I did other classes.

That Phase Disruptor can be beast if you use it correctly. Requires some accuracy and a little bit of timing, but it reliably staggers most enemies. And if you pair up with a Geth Engineer or a Demolisher who can replenish your shields, you become even more deadly with the power.

His teleport dodge is extrememly useful when Charging, and he's the first Vanguard that I've felt realtively comfortable Charging Banshees. I throw a Talon onto the guy and put in work on enemies.

[FROST4584]

Ever since the Earth DLC dropped, I've played with people who have done nothing but biotic and electric Slash. I hope, the next update increases the base cool down time to 11 seconds or more.

Modifié par FROST4584, 10 août 2012 - 09:10 .

[ryoldschool]

If you play a claymore gi all you do is cloak proxy mine shoot the entire match. People are going to do the best that they can. Do you have a build for the shadow that will work better on that map?

[neteng101]

OP farms FBW and is complaining about power spammers?

Oy whatever if you're doing that, just collect on the credits.  If you want to farm credits and actually have some fun while you're at it, do Glacier without camping.