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[KiiNG Tempest83]

Here we go again with this bs. OP I have seen people spamming either slash but to be honest they are more annoying than anything. The damage is high but the only thing that seems game breaking to me is the constant nerfs.... oops I mean balance changes.

[Haloburner]

Oh cry me a river.

[holdenagincourt]

I feel like now would be an ideal time for me to break in our new microwave with a bag of popcorn.

Wall spam is getting slightly out of hand, I agree, but I don't know if nerfing either of the slashes would be high on my list of priorities. Personally I think Platinum itself needs to be drastically changed (lower credit payout, less boss spam, slightly gimped enemies but changes to enemy behavior or wave composition). Maybe a wave of numerous Husks, Combat Engineers, Banshees, Geth Pyros and Geth Rocket Troopers, with a certain number of each spawning throughout the wave to pressure players out into the open and the Turrets/GRTs. Atlases, Banshees and Geth Primes don't work well together; they just clump up and eat Cobras. If Platinum were not so punitive to characters whose forte is anything other than all DPS all the time, I don't think there would be such prevalence of this tactic.

I also think a cooldown nerf would unfairly penalize those players who were attempting to work the slashes into their playstyles organically, and not taking advantage of a silly gimmick.

[Kyerea]

AresKeith wrote...

this isn't about it being op is it?

Are they getting higher scores than you?

Probably, since I can't imagine how he has time to play the game since he's on here 24/7 complaining about everything.

@dfs Nah bro, last i checked, your thread ended in a huge ****fest with everyone universally detesting you and this week's "nerf" on Piranha literally doing nothing to the weapon. It seems Edmonton doesn't agree with you either.

Modifié par Kyerea, 10 août 2012 - 11:59 .

[N7 Banshee Bait]

Another one of these &$%&# threads???? STFU! STOP trying to ruin my game!  You got your Piranha nerf now SHUT THE HELL UP!!! Stop screwin with my Shadow!


Where the hell do all the people come from anyway?   Just play the game & STFU! 

Modifié par Steelgrave, 11 août 2012 - 12:02 .

[KiiNG Tempest83]

death_for_sale wrote...

Kyerea wrote...

joker_jack wrote...

You notice the so called big shots in this game love to hide behind the numbers and when you find a ****** in the armor they come up with some bs logic to back up their claim.

Your not gonna even begin to see balance in this game until 1st the big glitches are fixed and the store system is also fixed. That's not gonna happen given how profitability of the game is set. If no one was to but backs anymore I can almost guarantee the servers would shut down.

First off, I love your sig lol.

Second, does anyone here recall the mess that was OP's Piranha thread? Lol. Good times.

Ah yes, the mess that ended up being correct.

They changed it doesn't mean it was correct. On this forum apparently those who cry the loudest get the changes that they want. Let me just say that you and the many people like you who get on the foums and cry for nerfs..... there I go again..... I  mean balance, are the very vocal but very small minority.

Modifié par KiiNG Tempest83, 11 août 2012 - 12:00 .

[Zero 2362]

not OP. I run shadow. I have a SS and ES build. I rarely use ES. Why?

Reason 1 ES has one of the longest casting times in the game (By the way this in and of itself entitles the move to be powerful)

Reason 2 SS is generally more effective as combined with TC it does more damage, is faster, and provides grater survivability.

I cant talk for the slayer but the Shadow is a high-risk High-reward type of class. the risk balances the power

[AresKeith]

the Slashes on Gold/Platinum are great for crowd control if your not spamming them, Smash was the same way until it got nerfed, revive smash and everythings fine again

[-Morbid-]

This bull**** is so tiresome.

Please, **** off.

[WMcAlister]

Hmm...reduce max targets hit by Slashes to 2, the second target takes 50% damage.

Increase Smash range to 10 meters.

Find a way to buff Shockwave....again.

Narrow balance gap, watch BSN explode.

Tweak it again in 3 weeks when new imbalances become problematic.

[Werbal]

Slash is FINE. Yes, it's powerful as hell and spammable, but at the cost of making the Shadow VERY weak. And if you've specced Tactical Cloak for damage then you're even MORE vulnerable. All the spams in the world won't save you when you decloak in front of a horde of enemies.

Couple that with a LONG wind-up animation and you've got a power that's ultimately situationally useful. The Shadow is a glass cannon - take away the cannon and all you've got is the glass and ANOTHER class that isn't worth playing.

[COLZ7R]

Hands up who knew they would go after biotics now?
I said at the start off this nerf **** that once the halfwits see a glimmer of hope that anyone listens to them it wouldnt stop.

Reap what you sow gun nerffers!!!!

[aarnold1]

Nerf retaliation, the death of ME3. A weapon gets nerfed, so someone whines and a biotic gets nerfed, who in turn whines about a weapon that gets nerfed, or a character gets nerfed. If the Slayer/Shadow gets nerfed, then go after the Krogards and the GI too. Let's make sure everyone gets equal misery.

[N7 Banshee Bait]

death_for_sale wrote...

Kyerea wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

this isn't about it being op is it?

Are they getting higher scores than you?

Probably, since I can't imagine how he has time to play the game since he's on here 24/7 complaining about everything.

Ah, another well reasoned argument from you. I do so love how you point out how I am wrong versus just trolling about score or if I play a lot.

Dude, just go play the game & STFU!  And stop making these retarded threads.  I love the Shadow!  I love Electric Slash!  I love the Piranha. Every time you make a thread like this you're f***ing with me!  Screw you!

[Kyerea]

death_for_sale wrote...

Kyerea wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

this isn't about it being op is it?

Are they getting higher scores than you?

Probably, since I can't imagine how he has time to play the game since he's on here 24/7 complaining about everything.

Ah, another well reasoned argument from you. I do so love how you point out how I am wrong versus just trolling about score or if I play a lot.

And you come on these forums and complain about a extreme minority of players that use a character's ability set in a certain way on a certain map against a certain faction. If that's completely reasonable, then my insinuations of you as a player are within acceptable margins.

Modifié par Kyerea, 11 août 2012 - 12:18 .

[Rifneno]

People still take DfS seriously? 'the hell?

[lazuli]

A lot of people in here sound like students hissing at the teacher's pet that says, "You forgot to assign homework."

The slashes are cheesy when spammed repeatedly. This is one of the drawbacks to the global cooldown system. It's hard to balance against spamming without completely wrecking an ability.

[OuterRim]

xSNPx ZoDiaC wrote...

Re-buff smash, balance achieved.


You want a cookie or something?

Exactly.

[joker_jack]

death_for_sale wrote...

svocke2 wrote...

death_for_sale wrote...

Rebel_Raven wrote...

*Sigh* Again, you only look at the small picture.

I'd try to debate with you, DfS, but I already know you don't care what anyone says, and are absolutely dead set in your plot.

How am I looking at the small picture? This is the next crutch class that people are falling back on to complete difficulties that they would not normally be capable of defeating. The board is lighting up with people complaining about the number of Shadows and Slayers popping up in matches and just using Slash.

You can literally download a macro program and go AFK on these classes for long periods of time, there is no skill involved.

Feel free to bring a debate, if you can dispute what are actual facts.

actual fact, everyone on this board disagrees with you so far

Not so, there are currently 3 other posts on this issue. People already know it is overpowered.

Most from the elitist of the game. Let's go back to the tc nerf what that did to the class. FQI was affected most off by this in conjuction with the sabotage nerf. Her damage output went down the toilet. Also look at what happened to the sniper rifle weapon class as a whole. Most snipers can't even compete with the damage output of a canifex or gps. The clock was one of the biggest advantages of the using a bw. Now there is no need for a bw when a saber out perfoms it. The numbers are there if want to see them.

With the slashes one of the biggest advantages of them is being able to stike from a distance. Shadow Strike isn't as viable all the time. The extra melee bonus gets gimped once tc starts glitching, From personal experience on platinum as recent as last night tc failed continusly 5 times in a row. Shadow Strike in this instance would not be powerful enough to put forth the normal damge out put. In that instance ES was the only me and the team alive.

The slayer and shadow are very squishy classes to begin with. In order to balance that out you need some punch in the power department. Asari Adept for example. Glass Cannon, god amount of damage output (When a be will go off, thatr bug still needs fixing). but poor health.sheilds to balance it out in most common builds.

You also seem to forget about the slayer being susceptible to the vangaurd off host glitch. Some of this classes most reliable builds allow him to spec out of charge and get out of that problem. If you decide to spam invincabilty frames you have to host so that isn't an option for everyone. Slashes are a bread and butter power. With as glitchy as the new classes your puposing weaking one power that gives them balance. You can't just look at the numbers alone, you have to also look at the average joe data as well. Not everyone here solo's gold or platinum nor do they care about it. 

[Rifneno]

If they haven't nerfed the most broken ability in the game, Nova, I doubt they'll nerf others much if at all. Smash took everyone by surprise for a reason.