Rebel_Raven wrote...
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Bold 1 - Or they could be prone to making wild leaps of judgement in emotionally charged vacuum. Or maybe they are just sick right now and angsty...
Bold 2 - This would be only the second time I have posted asking for balance on something.
Bold 3 - I have said that in a non-farm setup the power becomes more difficult to use. I have listed pros and cons. You simply choose to ignore anything I say other than the pros.
Bold 4 - Again, I gave reasons for this, you choose to ignore them.
Bold 5 - It is not crap against bosses, I killed quite a few in both sets of videos. It is only crap if you gimp the skill purposefully. Again, you choose to ignore this and spout your rhetoric.
Bold 6 - I've leveled a slayer and shadow to 20 multiple times. Then I promote. This is why I have a high N7 score. Again, you leap to conclusions and spout rhetoric.
Bold 7 - If anyone has plugged their ears and repeated themselves over and over with no logic, it is you my friend. Every single argument you put forth is illogical, full of vitriol, and ignores anything I have to say. I have come farther towards thinking that, at least on the Slayer perhaps the Slash is only borderline OP, than you have come from singing your swan song about nerfers.
Take a moment and contemplate what you have been doing, because you are really showing yourself as a rabid anti-nerfer frothing at the mouth more than someone who can debate an issue reasonably.
1: Maybe they're just tired of people like the poster? Nerf calles so eager to get something nerfed that they'll skew data, not fact check and post false data, and do so with no sense of balance so much as merely takign away?
2: With skewed, flawed methods.
3: Then why are you still complaining that it's OP if you know the cons of it? Those cons are what make the power balanced.
Further you made numerous edits to your opening thread and there ARE NO mentions of the cons.
4: Your reasons aren't good enough. Point blank, "because you can farm easy" is not a reason for a nerf.
5: You didn't kill primes so much as got the credit for the killing strike all of once, or twice. That doesn't make a power OP nevermind good vs bosses, it just means you got in the last hit after your comrade(s) dumped firepower into him.
When I finally do see you in a position to even remotely solo a prime, you bail coz you're doing crap to it with the power, and then people come to help you.
And you bail on a prime a second time coz from what I saw your ES just made his armor flicker, and hardly did anything to damage him.
I can't see how you say it's not crap vs bosses when they'll take dozens and dozens of electric strikes to bring down? Your allies are better at taking down primes than you are.
If you bail, you obviously don't have confidence that your powers can take the enemy down.
6: It's no worse than what you do making halfassed nerf cries.
7: I've made numerous logical attempts to dissuade your line of thinking as have many others, and yet here you are, continuing with no aknowledgement of the logical points that people have brought up in your main post, only attempts to stack more and more evidence.
It's just not just me, but plenty of others who have made logical debates!
I'm not a rabid anti-nerfer, I'm a person who cares about the game, and dislikes seeing unqualified nerf calls by people who jump the gun, and don't have the experience with the class as they only later realize they're not as OP as they made them out to be. It's your persistance in making these nerf calls in the face of evidince that the power's actually pretty balanced that's frankly just irritating a lot of people.
As far as your shadow vids go, blaming lag? Really? When you get shot using a high risk ability? Excuses. We all get lag. And you do die a lot in the wind up. And shot a lot in the wind up. And shot after using the power because you're taken out of cover using the ability.
I'll give you credit for not using bleeding edge gear on this one, though.
Also, if you just now come to the realization that they may not be as OP as you think, (Clue here, they're not OP. they're powers on a caster class, so they should be worth using!) I still doubt your experience with the classes. You would've come to that conclusion before saying they're outright OP.
Furthermore, you give classes flak over using their powers... they're supposed to aren't they? A lot of casters spam powers. A lot of classes in general spam powers.
Shadow and slayer are lucky enough to have -good- powers they can spam as opposed to a lot of non-N7 classes.
Fortunately the slashes come with a heavy price to pay as you've seen with your shadow getting blasted out of her boots because she wasn't in cover thanks to ES use.
1. Repeating yourself again
2. Ditto
3. Pros and Cons are mostly listed, I'll have to locate the rest in the thread and update the OP at some point in the near future.
4. Opinion
5. If you bother to look at the points from killing the bosses you will notice that most are in the 1800-2k range. If you are just finishing off a boss you get much lower. I 'bailed' so as to set up a safer attack spot.
6. I am making a logical attempt at balance. You choose to see it the way you wish to.
7. You have done nothing once I answered your issues except cry about me 'lying'. You cannot seem to comprehend the difference between a mistake and lying. I could care less if you question my experience on the classes because honestly you show little to no knowledge of them yourself. I have quite a bit of experience on the classes. As far as the lag, yes we all have it. What YOU don't have is secondary lag due to a video recording program running in the background. Half of the time my input is responding to things my eyes saw seconds ago, it is much more difficult than without the program running.
Again, you may want to take a bit and think about your emotional responses, because you are not making much sense.





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