death_for_sale wrote...
Rebel_Raven wrote...
*Sigh* Again, you only look at the small picture.
I'd try to debate with you, DfS, but I already know you don't care what anyone says, and are absolutely dead set in your plot.
How am I looking at the small picture? This is the next crutch class that people are falling back on to complete difficulties that they would not normally be capable of defeating. The board is lighting up with people complaining about the number of Shadows and Slayers popping up in matches and just using Slash.
You can literally download a macro program and go AFK on these classes for long periods of time, there is no skill involved.
Feel free to bring a debate, if you can dispute what are actual facts.
Oh god, where do I begin? Have you forgotten history?
It's obvious you focus on a slim sliver of the population that can actually manage that level of equipment, and even smaller sliver of the community that can do so consistently.
You're taking one ability from both classes, and not looking at the class as a whole. You deck them out in the most powerful gear you can to focus on that one power ignoring any variables, I.E. A shadow might wanna use shadow strike, and build for that.
Not everyone is going to hug a banshee, brute, atlas, or geth prime so they can use their windup to deal extra damage, nor are they going to hug enemies to use the wind up in general as they're pretty squishy as a class, and will get shot to death using those powers carelessly.
You factor out the forced mobility with each and every use, and the vulnerability in the wind up. You pretty much ignore anything that could possibly go wrong in using the power, and every down side in it.
You want facts?
Fact: Not everyone has structural ergonomics IV, or power eff IV.
Fact: Not everyone has the consumeable versions to burn in every match.
Fact: the powers have to be aimed, and directed. You can't macro them to do anything more than fire in one direction repeatedly. Even in a farming situation in FBW/G/G it's a bad idea as people will not watch your back. Further you've no cover using these abilities. Spammed against a counter will get you shot, and killed quickly.
Against a wall you'll have frontal cover, but, again, you're going to get flanked, and shot to death in a hurry.
Believe me, I've done FBW/G/G with a shadow. It's no picnic, even with the slashes.
Of course you'll dismiss those coz obviously. Just mere excuses, and anyone that disagrees with you, you've pretty much labled a troll in the past.
I want to see you actually test your build, and be successful with it.
All this is a post with the same cold, careless stabs at something you obviosuly don't like.
I gotta ask, why do you care?
If you don't like an ability, and you don't use it, how can you possibly expect to balance it without bias? Odds are high you have no experience with the ability, or else you'd never suggest something as ludicrous as using a macro and going afk.
At least protoman claimed to care about what he wasa trying to get nerfed.
Also your information is incomplete. You neglect to mention the shadow's ES can topple human sized enemies. Frankly, it's probably necessary due to the shadow's lack of outright offensive powers, and aside from ES, no crowd control.
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