Armass81 wrote...
How did it screw all the franchise? Arent you overexaggerating a little there?
Good post. That's what I think too.adneate wrote...
Well no because they are all souless corporate sock puppets who were all lining up to declare Ultima 9 the Alpha and Omega of cRPGs and fellate EA with glowing universal praise. Not a single "professional" reviewer ever mentioned the catastrophe that was ME3's ending either, the most you got was people saying it was "A bit convoluded". Which is like saying a 3 foot barbed spear through the heart is "just a flesh wound".SpamBot2000 wrote...
But honestly, did mainstream news report a huge uproar over it? Not that I can recall.
It was the people who actually had to pay $50 for that garbage that got angry, not the people who get it for free and know their organization will be punished by the publisher if they provide an honest opinion.
SpamBot2000 wrote...
Yes... but then again, Ultima 1 and 2 are hardly classics beyond their foundational nature in the genre. There are space rockets in them.
SpamBot2000 wrote...
adneate wrote...
JBPBRC wrote...
This guy pretty much nails it:
It's a long watch but a good retrospective for anyone who wasn't around when the games first came out, it doesn't give the context of sitting in your parent's basement as a kid playing Ultima on a 286 and being totally enthralled by the sheer concept of the games. To put in all the time just to get Ultima 8 and 9 at the end . . .
Ultima literally defined RPGs as they exist now and the series took one of the most dramatic and cataclysmic falls from grace in history.
Yes... but then again, Ultima 1 and 2 are hardly classics beyond their foundational nature in the genre. There are space rockets in them.
adneate wrote...
SpamBot2000 wrote...
Yes... but then again, Ultima 1 and 2 are hardly classics beyond their foundational nature in the genre. There are space rockets in them.
I think you've got to cut them some slack for basically having to invent the cRPG genre when they were made. In addition to the extreme limitations of technology at the time, there isn't a lot of space to work with on a 5 1/4" floppy. Decrying them for being a bit silly is like complaining that Super Mario Brothers on the NES isn't as good as Super Mario World on SNES.
I mean Atari 2600 games had no end you just played to get a high score.
satunnainen wrote...
Maybe me3 just had the worst fans. I didnt find me3 ending particularly bad, when compared to some other endings.
Modifié par Outlawstar15a2, 11 août 2012 - 04:37 .
Outlawstar15a2 wrote...
satunnainen wrote...
Maybe me3 just had the worst fans. I didnt find me3 ending particularly bad, when compared to some other endings.
Well a ending is the hardest part of a story to get right... Well for some people. When I used to write fan fictions the beginning was the hardest part for me, but a lot of people have difficulty with the end. It comes from the inability to easily see where the draw the line to prevent from continuing on for infinity because without a ending that's usually what will happen. And then there's the problem of wrapping up the canon by answering all those nagging questions.
DoomManiac wrote...
you guys didn't play Sniper Ghost Warrior
AngryFrozenWater wrote...
Good post. That's what I think too.adneate wrote...
Well no because they are all souless corporate sock puppets who were all lining up to declare Ultima 9 the Alpha and Omega of cRPGs and fellate EA with glowing universal praise. Not a single "professional" reviewer ever mentioned the catastrophe that was ME3's ending either, the most you got was people saying it was "A bit convoluded". Which is like saying a 3 foot barbed spear through the heart is "just a flesh wound".SpamBot2000 wrote...
But honestly, did mainstream news report a huge uproar over it? Not that I can recall.
It was the people who actually had to pay $50 for that garbage that got angry, not the people who get it for free and know their organization will be punished by the publisher if they provide an honest opinion.
Optimystic_X wrote...
Clearly it does not. Nobody debated (or ****ed) about Ultima IX nearly as long as they did about this. Get mad all you want, only a deep ending could inspire months upon months worth of continued discussion.
Modifié par Essalor, 11 août 2012 - 06:40 .
Essalor wrote...
What inspires the whole thing is not the deep ending. Quite on the contrary: tt's that the rest of this game is so beautiful
Guest_mayrabgood_*
But at least I was sure my main character survived unlike ME3.
What? No, Alan Wake was great. If you want some explanation: www.youtube.com/watchmayrabgood wrote...
Oh and Alan Wake too. I have no idea what the hell happened.
adneate wrote...
Well no because they are all souless corporate sock puppets who were all lining up to declare Ultima 9 the Alpha and Omega of cRPGs and fellate EA with glowing universal praise. Not a single "professional" reviewer ever mentioned the catastrophe that was ME3's ending either, the most you got was people saying it was "A bit convoluded". Which is like saying a 3 foot barbed spear through the heart is "just a flesh wound".SpamBot2000 wrote...
But honestly, did mainstream news report a huge uproar over it? Not that I can recall.
It was the people who actually had to pay $50 for that garbage that got angry, not the people who get it for free and know their organization will be punished by the publisher if they provide an honest opinion.
Modifié par Torrible, 11 août 2012 - 07:31 .
rdnanez wrote...
mass effect fans became spolied brats. biowares biggest problem was giving players too much say. mass effect 3 will forever go down as one of my favorite games ever. i love this series and no butthurt punk ass spolied brat forum poster will EVER take that away from me. the fact people are still posting on here negatively and butthurt is just down right pathetic and sad.
JBPBRC wrote...
A deep ending yes. Or just a really bad one.
Optimystic_X wrote...
JBPBRC wrote...
A deep ending yes. Or just a really bad one.
If it was just "really bad" people would have dismissed it and moved on. Not debating it, forming factions, etc. for months afterward. (And I haven't even started on what the IT folks are doing - that thread scares me sometimes.)
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