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[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

ShepnTali wrote...

I'm not forcing myself to like it, or just accept it. Haven't touched it since. I generally don't trade/sell games, so I don't know if I'll play it again in a few years or not. I have played ME2 since, and realized it's better to end that way.

Best ending - www.youtube.com/watch 

This is about as close as I could find: youtu.be/5kqVB15Yab4

[TsaiMeLemoni]

While I certainly didn't like the endings before and I feel like they do have a few issues still, I do like the endings much more post-EC. No forcing myself to like them, I just accept them.

[Conniving_Eagle]

BringBackNihlus wrote...

Speezy wrote...

Actually, I don't see any major issues with control or destroy.

Don't like killing the geth and EDI? Tough. The game has been about tough choices (and didn't have enough) and if you want to reunite with your waifu/husbando so bad that you are willing to commit genocide that is your problem.

Control? Yeah, it kills Shepard off. But again. Tough choices.

Synthesis is dumb, and somehow got dumber in the EC I will agree on that.

Destroying the Reapers, which has been Shepard's objective from day one, takes presendence over that; even though I would enjoy a reunion. As I said in another thread, Control and Synthesis are both unconscionable and dastardly.

There's a reason why there's no reunion in Destroy.

[ShepnTali]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

ShepnTali wrote...

I'm not forcing myself to like it, or just accept it. Haven't touched it since. I generally don't trade/sell games, so I don't know if I'll play it again in a few years or not. I have played ME2 since, and realized it's better to end that way.

Best ending - www.youtube.com/watch 

This is about as close as I could find: youtu.be/5kqVB15Yab4

That... is awesome. And I'm not joking. It's fitting.

[DanielsMind]

It was OK. Overall I am at peace with my Ending, It could be better though. hopefully the coming DLC can make it better.

Modifié par DanielsMind, 12 août 2012 - 04:32 .

[AlanC9]

D24O wrote...

That makes sense. IMO if they'd gone more in depth with the "tech blinds us" idea it would be interesting to impliment. Of the galaxy's own volition, and with our squaddies not starving preferably. 

I never saw starving as being particularly likely. You'd have to make a fairly complicated relay trip to get out of FTL range of Earth and the quarian liveships (depending on how Rannoch went).

[Lee80]

I'm certainly a forcing myself to accept/like it for the most part. It still isn't what I wanted, but I never had much hope for it being what I had envisioned anyway. It was bettered that I feared it would be, but worse then I had hoped it to be.

[Conniving_Eagle]

BringBackNihlus wrote...

Why's that, great oracle?

Shepard is stuck on Earth/Citadel while the Normandy and crew are on some mystery planet. And it's "Bye-Bye!" Mass Relays.

Modifié par Conniving_Eagle, 12 août 2012 - 04:40 .

[shepskisaac]

Ehh the one problem with Destroy is that they DID make the Crucible be more and more discriminatory as the EMS was getting higher. At the lowest level, the Crucible targets and fries everything lol. Then it stops targeting organics but still destroys buildings and all synthetics. Then it stops targeting buildings and destroyed only synthetics. Then is stop targeting all synthetics and destroys only full synthetics (which is why Shep survives). So yeah, no wonder people ask why can't it be programmed then to target only Reapers if it could make distinctions between organics, building, synthetics, part synthetics etc. It does feel like they didn't want to allow it to target only the Reapers for the sake of drama. Because "Crucible not discriminating" excuse doesn't work, as other EMS endings show.

[SMichelle]

Nyxeris wrote...

It's better, but it isn't good enough to warrant more playthroughs from me.

And damn, did I want it to be! 

[D24O]

AlanC9 wrote...

I never saw starving as being particularly likely. You'd have to make a fairly complicated relay trip to get out of FTL range of Earth and the quarian liveships (depending on how Rannoch went).

I dunno, Liveships were primary targets of the reaperized Geth, their survival seemed unlikley, and Earth was pretty beat up, I didn't see the fleets stuck in sol as leading to anything good, but with how ambiguious the OE was, we'd be venturing indo headcanon v headcanon, not to mention derailing the thread. But removing the starvation aspect would make taking the relays offline somewhat palpatable. Although, like I said earlier I would prefer that the galaxy come to the realization that they should throw off all the reapers shackles, rather than have them explode as a concequence of the final choice.

[Greed1914]

That is actually a pretty good question. The parts I like, I do like for real, but since the main problem I had before, the Catalyst, remains, I have a hard time liking it with the EC. I suppose I'd say that I'm forcing myself to accept it since I don't think I'll ever get to a point where I like it.

[AlanC9]

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

BringBackNihlus wrote...

Why's that, great oracle?

Shepard is stuck on Earth/Citadel while the Normandy and crew are on some mystery planet. And it's "Bye-Bye!" Mass Relays.

Like I said above, whether that's a problem depends on whether Normandy got to that planet through the Charon relay, or went Charon-Arcturus-primary-secondary. If it's just Charon, then they're only a few weeks from Earth.

[AlanC9]

D24O wrote...
I dunno, Liveships were primary targets of the reaperized Geth, their survival seemed unlikley, and Earth was pretty beat up, I didn't see the fleets stuck in sol as leading to anything good, but with how ambiguious the OE was, we'd be venturing indo headcanon v headcanon, not to mention derailing the thread. But removing the starvation aspect would make taking the relays offline somewhat palpatable. Although, like I said earlier I would prefer that the galaxy come to the realization that they should throw off all the reapers shackles, rather than have them explode as a concequence of the final choice.

Yeah, I think you called it. In the absence of evidence it really is headcanon v. headcanon. From early tweets I'm not sure Bio themselves had a consensus position on what they were showing us.

[devSin]

I'm not a fan of the ending, but the extended cut does make it easier to disregard.

Success?

[D24O]

AlanC9 wrote...

Yeah, I think you called it. In the absence of evidence it really is headcanon v. headcanon. From early tweets I'm not sure Bio themselves had a consensus position on what they were showing us.

Well I remember Mr. Walters saying the Galaxy was a "wasteland" so I did assume the worst based on that, but I agree, I don't think everyone at BW was too keen on that idea, and there was so much left up to the player anyway. 

  at 1:30

[Conniving_Eagle]

AlanC9 wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

BringBackNihlus wrote...

Why's that, great oracle?

Shepard is stuck on Earth/Citadel while the Normandy and crew are on some mystery planet. And it's "Bye-Bye!" Mass Relays.

Like I said above, whether that's a problem depends on whether Normandy got to that planet through the Charon relay, or went Charon-Arcturus-primary-secondary. If it's just Charon, then they're only a few weeks from Earth.

More speculationz

[Conniving_Eagle]

D24O wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

Yeah, I think you called it. In the absence of evidence it really is headcanon v. headcanon. From early tweets I'm not sure Bio themselves had a consensus position on what they were showing us.

Well I remember Mr. Walters saying the Galaxy was a "wasteland" so I did assume the worst based on that, but I agree, I don't think everyone at BW was too keen on that idea, and there was so much left up to the player anyway. 

  at 1:30

Not surprised that Mac seemed more focused on an App and the multiplayer than the single player.

[Gruntburner]

No, I just do. If I had to force myself to like it, I wouldn't waste any time with it. Loaded question if I ever saw one.

[shodiswe]

I find the endings to be acceptable, compared to the original endings.

[MstrJedi Kyle]

I still wasn't happy with the ending after the EC

[Blind2Society]

If EMS had played it's roll (High EMS = EDI/Geth don't die in destroy - EMS determines level of success after telling starbrat to go screw) I would have been content.

[Ticonderoga117]

It fixes some things.
Makes other things worse.

However, it's like building a home. If the foundation (the ending concepts) are broken, no matter how nice your home is, it's still going to have major problems. That's the EC. Nice home on the outside, but built on nary a solid foundation.

The vanilla version was a shack on a broken foundation.