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[Rockworm503]

I agree. Nolan is great and did an awesome job with Batman but his style doesn't fit all supeheros. Imagine if Nolan directed The Avengers. I say no thanks. I'd rather see Whedon tackle it.

[TheClonesLegacy]

Nolan?
Seriously?
Nolans style fit for Batman not every comic character ever.
Hell I don't even think he could do a good Punisher Movie.

[Blastback]

TheClonesLegacy wrote...

Nolan?
Seriously?
Nolans style fit for Batman not every comic character ever.
Hell I don't even think he could do a good Punisher Movie.

Agreed.  He's amazing, but that dosn't mean he's the right guy for every project.

[Kathleen321]

Rockworm503 wrote...

I agree. Nolan is great and did an awesome job with Batman but his style doesn't fit all supeheros. Imagine if Nolan directed The Avengers. I say no thanks. I'd rather see Whedon tackle it.

I just mean that he's the only one who would make things remotely interesting. I think it's going to bomb no matter what. But if Nolan did it I'd at least be compelled to see it. I don't think he'd ever take on a project like this. Like you said it's not really his style.

Modifié par Kathleen321, 12 août 2012 - 07:57 .

[BatmanPWNS]

TJPags wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Hey, I thought Thor was going to bomb and it proved me seriously wrong.They'll probably shove in some other marvel character (Probably Nick Fury) to get a bigger audience.

Yea, again speaking for the stupid general movie going public, I'm gonna say "Who's Nick Fury and why do I care?"


Also speaking for the stupid general movie going public, I'm going to add:  "Guy's called Ant Man, and he doesn't shrink, he grows?  Wow, dumber and dumber".

I really don't see this being a success.

Nick Fury, played by Sam L. Jackson, was in Avengers. You know Avengers, at least, right? The movie that made 1.4 billion?

[Rickochet101]

BatmanPWNS wrote...

TJPags wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Hey, I thought Thor was going to bomb and it proved me seriously wrong.They'll probably shove in some other marvel character (Probably Nick Fury) to get a bigger audience.

Yea, again speaking for the stupid general movie going public, I'm gonna say "Who's Nick Fury and why do I care?"


Also speaking for the stupid general movie going public, I'm going to add:  "Guy's called Ant Man, and he doesn't shrink, he grows?  Wow, dumber and dumber".

I really don't see this being a success.

Nick Fury, played by Sam L. Jackson, was in Avengers. You know Avengers, at least, right? The movie that made 1.4 billion?

^ lol

[TJPags]

BatmanPWNS wrote...

TJPags wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Hey, I thought Thor was going to bomb and it proved me seriously wrong.They'll probably shove in some other marvel character (Probably Nick Fury) to get a bigger audience.

Yea, again speaking for the stupid general movie going public, I'm gonna say "Who's Nick Fury and why do I care?"


Also speaking for the stupid general movie going public, I'm going to add:  "Guy's called Ant Man, and he doesn't shrink, he grows?  Wow, dumber and dumber".

I really don't see this being a success.

Nick Fury, played by Sam L. Jackson, was in Avengers. You know Avengers, at least, right? The movie that made 1.4 billion?

Yea, I heard of Avengers.  Waiting for it to come to cable. 

[Blastback]

Nick Fury will do fine. He's gotten enough exposure by now that audiances are intrested. Plus, Sam Jackson sells.

Let's remeber that we also have to factor in the reputaion of Marvel Studios, which right now is pretty solid. Some people will be on board to at least try these films when they see "by the people who brought you Iron Man and the Avengers"

[Gandalf-the-Fabulous]

BatmanPWNS wrote...

TJPags wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Hey, I thought Thor was going to bomb and it proved me seriously wrong.They'll probably shove in some other marvel character (Probably Nick Fury) to get a bigger audience.

Yea, again speaking for the stupid general movie going public, I'm gonna say "Who's Nick Fury and why do I care?"


Also speaking for the stupid general movie going public, I'm going to add:  "Guy's called Ant Man, and he doesn't shrink, he grows?  Wow, dumber and dumber".

I really don't see this being a success.

Nick Fury, played by Sam L. Jackson, was in Avengers. You know Avengers, at least, right? The movie that made 1.4 billion?

Yeah but you diddnt watch Avengers just because Nick Fury was in it did you? Not sure exactly what your point is or was but the Avengers diddnt really need cameos from lesser known entities in the Marvell universe to sell seats.

[Blastback]

Gandalf-the-Fabulous wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

TJPags wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Hey, I thought Thor was going to bomb and it proved me seriously wrong.They'll probably shove in some other marvel character (Probably Nick Fury) to get a bigger audience.

Yea, again speaking for the stupid general movie going public, I'm gonna say "Who's Nick Fury and why do I care?"


Also speaking for the stupid general movie going public, I'm going to add:  "Guy's called Ant Man, and he doesn't shrink, he grows?  Wow, dumber and dumber".

I really don't see this being a success.

Nick Fury, played by Sam L. Jackson, was in Avengers. You know Avengers, at least, right? The movie that made 1.4 billion?

Yeah but you diddnt watch Avengers just because Nick Fury was in it did you? Not sure exactly what your point is or was but the Avengers diddnt really need cameos from lesser known entities in the Marvell universe to sell seats.

The argument was that Fury's role in the Avengers was enough to likely intrest audiances in a solo film.

[Tazzmission]

Rockworm503 wrote...

I agree. Nolan is great and did an awesome job with Batman but his style doesn't fit all supeheros. Imagine if Nolan directed The Avengers. I say no thanks. I'd rather see Whedon tackle it.

wheadon is doing avengers 2

right now antman has a director and a actor playing the role wich wasnt revealed at comic con



filming for antman starts when thor 2 wraps up this year

[Tazzmission]

Kathleen321 wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...

I agree. Nolan is great and did an awesome job with Batman but his style doesn't fit all supeheros. Imagine if Nolan directed The Avengers. I say no thanks. I'd rather see Whedon tackle it.

I just mean that he's the only one who would make things remotely interesting. I think it's going to bomb no matter what. But if Nolan did it I'd at least be compelled to see it. I don't think he'd ever take on a project like this. Like you said it's not really his style.

nope im sorry but i respectfully disagree

people ( including myself) had high expectations when martin campbell was announced to do green lantern and look how that turned out

[Blastback]

Whedon is also developing a Marvel tv show. He signed a 3 year exclusive deal with Marvel. So he'll also likely work on editing scripts for other films to keep a unified feel.

[Tazzmission]

Blastback wrote...

Whedon is also developing a Marvel tv show. He signed a 3 year exclusive deal with Marvel. So he'll also likely work on editing scripts for other films to keep a unified feel.

expect hulk in iron man 3


thats all im saying


ruffalo sighned a 6 picture deal to play the green guy wich isnt for solo films

Modifié par Tazzmission, 12 août 2012 - 09:36 .

[Rickochet101]

TJPags wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

TJPags wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Hey, I thought Thor was going to bomb and it proved me seriously wrong.They'll probably shove in some other marvel character (Probably Nick Fury) to get a bigger audience.

Yea, again speaking for the stupid general movie going public, I'm gonna say "Who's Nick Fury and why do I care?"


Also speaking for the stupid general movie going public, I'm going to add:  "Guy's called Ant Man, and he doesn't shrink, he grows?  Wow, dumber and dumber".

I really don't see this being a success.

Nick Fury, played by Sam L. Jackson, was in Avengers. You know Avengers, at least, right? The movie that made 1.4 billion?

Yea, I heard of Avengers.  Waiting for it to come to cable. 

must be a DC fan... 
sorry about your lack of justice league... 

[Rickochet101]

Gandalf-the-Fabulous wrote...


Yeah but you diddnt watch Avengers just because Nick Fury was in it did you? Not sure exactly what your point is or was but the Avengers diddnt really need cameos from lesser known entities in the Marvell universe to sell seats.

Are you saying Nick Fury's character... was a "cameo" to the Avengers...? Have you... read any Avengers comics... or seen Avengers pictures (not movie), or... seen any part of the animated show, or... I dunno... been around at all?

[Grub Killer8016]

I just wanna see giant ants killing people like in the classic Them. That movie just wants a remake so badly.

[BatmanPWNS]

Blastback wrote...

Gandalf-the-Fabulous wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

TJPags wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Hey, I thought Thor was going to bomb and it proved me seriously wrong.They'll probably shove in some other marvel character (Probably Nick Fury) to get a bigger audience.

Yea, again speaking for the stupid general movie going public, I'm gonna say "Who's Nick Fury and why do I care?"


Also speaking for the stupid general movie going public, I'm going to add:  "Guy's called Ant Man, and he doesn't shrink, he grows?  Wow, dumber and dumber".

I really don't see this being a success.

Nick Fury, played by Sam L. Jackson, was in Avengers. You know Avengers, at least, right? The movie that made 1.4 billion?

Yeah but you diddnt watch Avengers just because Nick Fury was in it did you? Not sure exactly what your point is or was but the Avengers diddnt really need cameos from lesser known entities in the Marvell universe to sell seats.

The argument was that Fury's role in the Avengers was enough to likely intrest audiances in a solo film.

Sorry I didn't reply to anyone but this is what I wanted to say if I did reply.

[Ridwan]

Why would a person be considered stupid if he wasn't interested to watch the film cause of the title?

[TJPags]

Rickochet101 wrote...

Gandalf-the-Fabulous wrote...


Yeah but you diddnt watch Avengers just because Nick Fury was in it did you? Not sure exactly what your point is or was but the Avengers diddnt really need cameos from lesser known entities in the Marvell universe to sell seats.

Are you saying Nick Fury's character... was a "cameo" to the Avengers...? Have you... read any Avengers comics... or seen Avengers pictures (not movie), or... seen any part of the animated show, or... I dunno... been around at all?

This post, I think, sums up this entire discussion.

To some people, Ant-Man - who I understand from reading the wiki someone linked me to was a founding member of the Avengers - is an interesting character.  The statement I just quoted about Nick Fury could likely be made for Ant Man - he's a founding member, how awful it was he wasn't in the Avengers.  He has such an interesting backstory, a scientist who discovers Pym Particles, can change his size, speak to and control ants - great concept!!

Then you have people who have - sit down for this, people - NEVER READ A COMIC BOOK.  Never heard of Ant Man.  Did not read every issue of The Avengers comics (or whatever the comics they appeared in was called).  Those people have heard of Batman, Superman.  Probably the Hulk and Iron Man.  Those people know Thor as a greek god, not a comic book superhero.

You know why people like me watched Transformers?  It was an action movie - they blew crap up at a tremendous rate.  Iron Man did it too.  So did the Hulk, to a lesser degree.  Spiderman movies bore me.  So do Superman movies.  Not enough crap being blown up.  And I really don't care about Peter Parker and his angst.

I've never heard of Nick Fury before this thread.  Never heard of Ant Man before the first thread I saw here about him.  I don't know who or what Nick Fury is, and what I know of Ant Man sounds absolutely absurd.

There are millions of people who follow comics, and I'm not trying to put them down at all.  But there are tens of millions who don't.  Movies that cost $200 million to make don't want to have audiences measured in millions.  They want an audience measured in tens of millions, and revenue measured in hundreds of millions, not tens of millions. 

If this movie is made, it needs to be made attractive to people like me, not to people who love comics.  People who love comics will likely go see it anyway.  While I think Samuel L. Jackson is a great actor, putting Nick Fury into the Ant Man movie won't do it.  Putting, say, Iron Man or Thor into it might help.  Blowing crap up at a tremendous rate may help also. 

Does Ant Man blow crap up?

[Rockworm503]

TJPags wrote...

Rickochet101 wrote...

Gandalf-the-Fabulous wrote...


Yeah but you diddnt watch Avengers just because Nick Fury was in it did you? Not sure exactly what your point is or was but the Avengers diddnt really need cameos from lesser known entities in the Marvell universe to sell seats.

Are you saying Nick Fury's character... was a "cameo" to the Avengers...? Have you... read any Avengers comics... or seen Avengers pictures (not movie), or... seen any part of the animated show, or... I dunno... been around at all?

This post, I think, sums up this entire discussion.

To some people, Ant-Man - who I understand from reading the wiki someone linked me to was a founding member of the Avengers - is an interesting character.  The statement I just quoted about Nick Fury could likely be made for Ant Man - he's a founding member, how awful it was he wasn't in the Avengers.  He has such an interesting backstory, a scientist who discovers Pym Particles, can change his size, speak to and control ants - great concept!!

Then you have people who have - sit down for this, people - NEVER READ A COMIC BOOK.  Never heard of Ant Man.  Did not read every issue of The Avengers comics (or whatever the comics they appeared in was called).  Those people have heard of Batman, Superman.  Probably the Hulk and Iron Man.  Those people know Thor as a greek god, not a comic book superhero.

You know why people like me watched Transformers?  It was an action movie - they blew crap up at a tremendous rate.  Iron Man did it too.  So did the Hulk, to a lesser degree.  Spiderman movies bore me.  So do Superman movies.  Not enough crap being blown up.  And I really don't care about Peter Parker and his angst.

I've never heard of Nick Fury before this thread.  Never heard of Ant Man before the first thread I saw here about him.  I don't know who or what Nick Fury is, and what I know of Ant Man sounds absolutely absurd.

There are millions of people who follow comics, and I'm not trying to put them down at all.  But there are tens of millions who don't.  Movies that cost $200 million to make don't want to have audiences measured in millions.  They want an audience measured in tens of millions, and revenue measured in hundreds of millions, not tens of millions. 

If this movie is made, it needs to be made attractive to people like me, not to people who love comics.  People who love comics will likely go see it anyway.  While I think Samuel L. Jackson is a great actor, putting Nick Fury into the Ant Man movie won't do it.  Putting, say, Iron Man or Thor into it might help.  Blowing crap up at a tremendous rate may help also. 

Does Ant Man blow crap up?

You make good points but here's the thing.
If they dumb it down to appease people who don't care than I'll stop going to see it.  And I'm sure many fellow comic book fans agree with me.  I went to see Transformers because I grew up on that.  You can't pay me to see the 3rd one... Not after 2.  If they just make it one big ESPLOSION with lots of stupid jokes to make you happy than that will alienate the fans who want to see this just for more money.  Thats working so well for Bioware right now i'm sure 

[TJPags]

Rockworm503 wrote...

You make good points but here's the thing.
If they dumb it down to appease people who don't care than I'll stop going to see it.  And I'm sure many fellow comic book fans agree with me.  I went to see Transformers because I grew up on that.  You can't pay me to see the 3rd one... Not after 2.  If they just make it one big ESPLOSION with lots of stupid jokes to make you happy than that will alienate the fans who want to see this just for more money.  Thats working so well for Bioware right now i'm sure 

You also make very good points.  Clearly, that's the big question/problem with anything like this: make it true to its source material so the old fans will like it, or try to appeal to a wider audience?

Since I don't make movies, I'm clearly not the one to answer that question.  I can relate, being a fan of George RR Martins Game of Thrones, and being completely turned off by the HBO series.

What I do understand, is that if you spend $200 million to make something, you want to have it earn $500 million or more.  I don't know if comic book fans can make this movie $500 million - maybe they can.  But if they can't, then the studio has to do something to draw in other people.

[Rickochet101]

TJPags wrote...


To some people, Ant-Man - who I understand from reading the wiki someone linked me to was a founding member of the Avengers - is an interesting character.  The statement I just quoted about Nick Fury could likely be made for Ant Man - he's a founding member, how awful it was he wasn't in the Avengers.  He has such an interesting backstory, a scientist who discovers Pym Particles, can change his size, speak to and control ants - great concept!!

He's also a wife beater with anger issues... 

Then you have people who have - sit down for this, people - NEVER READ A COMIC BOOK.  Never heard of Ant Man.  Did not read every issue of The Avengers comics (or whatever the comics they appeared in was called).  Those people have heard of Batman, Superman.  Probably the Hulk and Iron Man.  Those people know Thor as a greek god, not a comic book superhero.

I'm actually pretty sure most Americans would recognize Thor as a superhero, without even realizing his mythology has been around since the Viking ages. Just sayin'.

You know why people like me watched Transformers?  It was an action movie - they blew crap up at a tremendous rate.  Iron Man did it too.  So did the Hulk, to a lesser degree.  Spiderman movies bore me.  So do Superman movies.  Not enough crap being blown up.  And I really don't care about Peter Parker and his angst.

Bay's explosions ended up being the downfall of the Transformers franchise, haven't seen a 4th one in the make have we?

I've never heard of Nick Fury before this thread.  Never heard of Ant Man before the first thread I saw here about him.  I don't know who or what Nick Fury is, and what I know of Ant Man sounds absolutely absurd.

David Hasselhoff played him in a TV movie one time...  Yeah, and Nick Fury originated as a White Guy! 

There are millions of people who follow comics, and I'm not trying to put them down at all.  But there are tens of millions who don't.  Movies that cost $200 million to make don't want to have audiences measured in millions.  They want an audience measured in tens of millions, and revenue measured in hundreds of millions, not tens of millions.  

 
I'd be willing to bet the majority of those millions made off the Avengers movie came from people who have never read a comic book in their life... I personally never read any until the movies started coming out... but I've known all the characters thoroughly since I was a child... 

If this movie is made, it needs to be made attractive to people like me, not to people who love comics.  People who love comics will likely go see it anyway.  While I think Samuel L. Jackson is a great actor, putting Nick Fury into the Ant Man movie won't do it.  Putting, say, Iron Man or Thor into it might help.  Blowing crap up at a tremendous rate may help also.  

If you like things as simple as explosions I don't think it will be very hard to sell tickets to other people like you. 

Does Ant Man blow crap up?

Hank Pym does whatever the H*** he wants! And he doesn't even have real super powers... Hey.... Neither does Bruce Wayne....  Go figure...

[TheClonesLegacy]

M25105 wrote...

Why would a person be considered stupid if he wasn't interested to watch the film cause of the title?

Course not.
Just saying a film called "Ant-man" dosen't have Mass Appeal, because who wants to see a movie about a guy who shrinks, talks to ants, and Attempts to murder his wife?

Modifié par TheClonesLegacy, 13 août 2012 - 01:07 .

[TheClonesLegacy]

Rickochet101 wrote...

TJPags wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

TJPags wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Hey, I thought Thor was going to bomb and it proved me seriously wrong.They'll probably shove in some other marvel character (Probably Nick Fury) to get a bigger audience.

Yea, again speaking for the stupid general movie going public, I'm gonna say "Who's Nick Fury and why do I care?"


Also speaking for the stupid general movie going public, I'm going to add:  "Guy's called Ant Man, and he doesn't shrink, he grows?  Wow, dumber and dumber".

I really don't see this being a success.

Nick Fury, played by Sam L. Jackson, was in Avengers. You know Avengers, at least, right? The movie that made 1.4 billion?

Yea, I heard of Avengers.  Waiting for it to come to cable. 

must be a DC fan... 
sorry about your lack of justice league... 

Please I doubt he knows what the Justice League is,
..also I'll put my statment on the JL movie...
WHY BEN AFFLECK?