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[FallenKnight666]

i love the scorpion and zso-zso youve seen me play with it alot with my GI
i dont understand why people would hate on this awesome phantom killer it was just their loss

[Leland Gaunt]

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...
Using it as a main weapon is asking to get booted.

Except when using it on a Krogan Vanguard

[ME3 Fury]

Scorpion, like electric slash, biotic slash, shockwave make screen shake.

[ChickenDownUnder]

Only gripe I have about the weapon is the wait time till the projectiles start exploding. By the time those go off I could have killed the enemy with a different gun. Also ends up wasting some time for fellow players, who will keep firing at an enemy since they didn't notice the little orbs already glued onto a target. Or maybe they did and just want the kill, I dunno.

But other than that, great gun. Yay explosions.

[Agueybana]

Been my gethgineer's best new toy since I unlocked it. With Pistol ULM I've got a +200% cool down bonus. On maps like jade, goddess, dagger, or reactor I can stun lock enemies while stripping their shields at their spawn.

Why anyone whould hate it? Unfamiliar with it, maybe?

Modifié par Agueybana, 13 août 2012 - 04:09 .

[Striker93175]

Only gun I carry on my Fury, AA, QME, MFE. It's my main mob killer as distroyer (coupled with hydra missiles you are a walking explosion and rate of fire increase allows carpet bombs letting loose w/ rounds when need be). Staggers, rocks phantoms, and timed right allows constant staggers of scorpion explosions/BEs (boom boom BE boom boom BE). Add to a turian w/ marksman and camp ammo boxes to lay down silly RoF explosions... Fantastic gun. Applies ammo bonus instantly on contact, acts as a short lived proxy on walls/surface area (and enemies, land a bunch on an atlas and kill all mobs nearby!), can be made to explode instantly by shooting their toes. @ Level x is super light, it packs a whallop... add to a GI Arsenel with cloak/proxy dmg/debuff to clear entire spawns making......... def on my top tier weapons list!

Only guess is it got a bad rap from people missile glitchin w/ it. I dunno man.

Modifié par Striker93175, 13 août 2012 - 06:32 .

[Xaijin]

Zso_Zso wrote...

My N7 rank is 720, all classes are at 20 (I do not promote unless it is an operation objective), I have all rares maxed (except gears), have some decent URs. When I go into gold/plat I always have a decent loadout, nothing crazy, I equip stuff (ammo, weapon and "armor" equipment), so I very rarely get kicked from lobbies -- until yesterday.

Last night I decided to try out how the Scorpion works on a QME along with grenade capacity V. I got ~120K score with it on platinum (2nd place) for first try so it seemed pretty good. However, as I continued to play with it joining various gold/plat lobbies, I kept getting insta-kicks as soon as I joined, even from players with low level rare weapons (and under 200 N7, although I know that means nothing, but the weapon level showed the player has not played too much).

Considering my prior experience with not being kicked, I can only attribute this "aversion" to the Scorpion.

Why do people hate it som much ???

You play on PS3. Mystery solved.

[svocke2]

one of the best ammo power painters in the whole game, and its AoE on top of that. people probably assume that it sucks because people just seem to assume that all projectile weapons suck.

[ThelLastTruePatriot]

I just don't like weapons where i have to watch the projectile move slowly towards the target, and then wait for it to explode, too much crap can happen in that second or two that it takes, enemies move if they are bunched up, etc etc. It just never gelled right with me, I won't kick someone for using it, it's just not my personal flavor. Same goes for weapons I have to charge up to use, just not my playstyle. I prefer hitting my target then and there and moving on to the next.

[LeandroBraz]

Probably people that don't even come here, probably the same guys that you see using SMG ULM. They don't know how to use the scorpion, so they think you don't know as well...

[RamsenC]

The Scorpion trivializes Phantoms more than Stasis and is great on groups of chumps. The only thing keeping the Talon from being the best weapon in the game is the inability to also bring a Scorpion.

[Hypertion]

people who dislike the scorpion are fools.

you should eat them.

[Pubisan]

Cant wait the time when Ill get it , and try with my DA, hope it will be soon. Seriously, my DA screaming for this pistol!

[drmoose00]

it may be the best weapon in he game for dealing with phantoms....

[Lokiwithrope]

MP-Ryan wrote...

I discovered what a monster the Scorpion is when carried on a Kroguard in Platinum today. I think I'm keeping it as his sole weapon even for gold.

"Came up against some krogan -all armed to the teeth. Well, except the battlemaster; he came at us with one of those peashotters. Killed half my squad."

[WaffleCrab]

IT could be your class choice instead of the weapon, lots of people kick from lobbies to see if they can get someone who is willing to use a class that goes better with the team.

[Drummernate]

I hate the Scorpion...

I tried it out on like 4 different classes and none of them felt powerful enough.

Sure it spreads ammo powers like a cancer, but it doesn't do as much damage as a common cold.

I prefer weapons like the Saber and Javelin that can one shot headshot any unshielded target.

[Maker MEDA]

I'm being kicked for no reasons some time, I don't even care. I take it as indicator that those aren't the type of gamers I want to play a 30 minutes round with anyway. If I have upgraded my N7 rating I would be N75000 by now. But I'm still only 820.

They just don't know, that there has been balance change to some of these weapons, or because other players using those weapon sucked. Either way.

I'm being kicked by N71000s who think they know better, it's kinda stupid.  But I hate reupping.

Modifié par Maker MEDA, 13 août 2012 - 07:33 .

[Zso_Zso]

Drummernate wrote...

I hate the Scorpion...

I tried it out on like 4 different classes and none of them felt powerful enough.

Sure it spreads ammo powers like a cancer, but it doesn't do as much damage as a common cold.

I prefer weapons like the Saber and Javelin that can one shot headshot any unshielded target.

The Scorpion has about twice the DPS of the Javelin -- and that is for a single target, but the Scorpion also has AoE.
So your damage argument does not really hold water...

Its a perception issue, you did not "feel" it powerful because you expect the enemy you shot to drop dead instantly.
However, the sticky balls of the scorpion take about 2s to explode. So you have a delayed desctruction effect.

I had the same "feeling" that I am not killing enough first, but when I looked at the stats at the end of the game i was surprised to see how much damage I did.

It needs a different style of use. You can sneak up on an enemy, stick 3-4 balls on it, then go back to cover to reaload and pick your next target. When the balls start exploding, the enemy only then realizes your attack, but its too late, becuase s/he is stun-locked to death and can't even hit you in cover at that time.

OTOH, if you keep firing until the enemy dies, then you are doing it wrong, wasting a lot of ammo and exposing yourself to enemy fire unnecessarily.

[Drummernate]

Zso_Zso wrote...

Drummernate wrote...

I hate the Scorpion...

I tried it out on like 4 different classes and none of them felt powerful enough.

Sure it spreads ammo powers like a cancer, but it doesn't do as much damage as a common cold.

I prefer weapons like the Saber and Javelin that can one shot headshot any unshielded target.

The Scorpion has about twice the DPS of the Javelin -- and that is for a single target, but the Scorpion also has AoE.
So your damage argument does not really hold water...

Its a perception issue, you did not "feel" it powerful because you expect the enemy you shot to drop dead instantly.
However, the sticky balls of the scorpion take about 2s to explode. So you have a delayed desctruction effect.

I had the same "feeling" that I am not killing enough first, but when I looked at the stats at the end of the game i was surprised to see how much damage I did.

It needs a different style of use. You can sneak up on an enemy, stick 3-4 balls on it, then go back to cover to reaload and pick your next target. When the balls start exploding, the enemy only then realizes your attack, but its too late, becuase s/he is stun-locked to death and can't even hit you in cover at that time.

OTOH, if you keep firing until the enemy dies, then you are doing it wrong, wasting a lot of ammo and exposing yourself to enemy fire unnecessarily.

That's the biggest load of crap ever....

The Javelin's DPS is insanely high compared to the Scorpion.

It takes literally 2.5 mags of extended ammo + extended barrel to kill a brute on Silver with the Scorpion... That is while using Cryo III and a level 4 Scorpion.

It takes 2 Javelin shots to do the same thing with the same character.

It would take 4 shots just to kill a Husk and by the time they exploded I would have killed 2 Husks with my Avenger, if you ask me, that DPS is pathetic.

Modifié par Drummernate, 13 août 2012 - 07:44 .

[UKStory135]

My Break-dancing Fury of Death uses the Scorpion and Piranha with cryo ammo. It is very effective.

[Omega2079]

Maker MEDA wrote...

I take it as indicator that those aren't the type of gamers I want to play a 30 minutes round with anyway.

I agree. Their range of experience tends to be narrow if they easily kick.

[aarnold1]

Scorpion is a good weapon but it is glitched to lag. Unless you fire it slower than it allows you, a good portion of your shots will not land due to lag. This is true on any difficulty but what we're running into is a lot of the platinum games are primarily being used for farming and not for fun play. Fun play is when you relax and get excited, even when the team is dying and everything is going crazy. You learn a lot from that. Farming, however, has only the purpose of finishing wave 10 and cashing in. What's sad is the amount of money a lot of these farmers are hoarding is simply going to waste. I don't know what they are waiting to use the money for but they almost always have rares and ultra rares maxed out or nearly maxed out, so there's no purpose. But there's a lot of farmers out there, and Bioware, like our government, doesn't want to end the subsidies. They need them coming back to the trough. If I detect a farming game, I leave voluntarily most of the time. I really would like to see Bioware change Firebase White and Glacier with a redux, as well as modify skills of enemies on harder difficulties instead of just beefing up their hitpoints and damage values. But again, Bioware can't risk scaring any customers off, even the farmers. Perhaps games can get new categories. You can label a game as "Farming" or "Fun", and you can filter them out accordingly. Probably make everyone happy.

[Qror_pl]

Piercing mod + High Caliber Barrel = boss killer

[BDelacroix]

I use it on my Justicar. I tried other things but always come back. That and the hurricane.