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[F4H bandicoot]

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Never forget the blue children! Also have a good day jade

I will never forget the blue children, I can't bring myself to even do my Kaidan playthrough. Once you go blue, nothing else will do!

Plus.. You know, there's that whole problem about replayability.

But thank you, it's 7:44am and I didn't sleep last night, but you have a good day also!

Messed up sleep schedule, too? I managed to fix mine a few days ago.

so did I, hahaha, oh weekend Mass Effect depression. half a year on, you'd think it'd go away.

btw, do you play on xbox or PC?

I play on Xbox, though I'm hoping to transition to PC gaming a year or two down the road. Though you and I are 13 hours apart or something, depending on whichever UTC you are. I live in East US.

Xbox for the win

[Conniving_Eagle]

F4H bandicoot wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...


If only someone could make a blue childrens ending where either shepard could end up with liara and help her rebuild thessia and have the blue kids I'd definitly would like to get the coding to put it into my own game

I do think that if they ever showed the relationships future,

Liara's theme would be the blue children.

Garrus' would be adopting a baby krogan

Tali's would be helping her build her house at that spot she called.

I can't speak for the rest of the romances....

But that's just it, they say they don't want to 'spoil' what some people might like to headcanon, but they have already laid the groundwork for what 'could' happen, that it kind of makes that quote just a cop out.

This was what I was actually expecting.

My FemShep romanced Thane

[F4H bandicoot]

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

F4H bandicoot wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...


If only someone could make a blue childrens ending where either shepard could end up with liara and help her rebuild thessia and have the blue kids I'd definitly would like to get the coding to put it into my own game

I do think that if they ever showed the relationships future,

Liara's theme would be the blue children.

Garrus' would be adopting a baby krogan

Tali's would be helping her build her house at that spot she called.

I can't speak for the rest of the romances....

But that's just it, they say they don't want to 'spoil' what some people might like to headcanon, but they have already laid the groundwork for what 'could' happen, that it kind of makes that quote just a cop out.

This was what I was actually expecting.

My FemShep romanced Thane

So did mine..
A scene at a memorial would work well, with Femshep laying some flowers

[AresKeith]

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

F4H bandicoot wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...


If only someone could make a blue childrens ending where either shepard could end up with liara and help her rebuild thessia and have the blue kids I'd definitly would like to get the coding to put it into my own game

I do think that if they ever showed the relationships future,

Liara's theme would be the blue children.

Garrus' would be adopting a baby krogan

Tali's would be helping her build her house at that spot she called.

I can't speak for the rest of the romances....

But that's just it, they say they don't want to 'spoil' what some people might like to headcanon, but they have already laid the groundwork for what 'could' happen, that it kind of makes that quote just a cop out.

This was what I was actually expecting.

My FemShep romanced Thane

and the bad part about that is in ME2 they wrote in a cure for Thane

[chemiclord]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

@ chemiclord, reported.

Go for it.

Fact is, it's clear Bioware wanted Shepard's story to end here with ME3, and they were going to do it in a way that made any sequels impossible.  Guess what?  That's their right.  It's their story to tell however they wish.  But they decided to throw one little bone for people who just couldn't let go no matter what... and their reward is for those fans to throw it back in their faces and scream and whine and complain.

I can't IMAGINE why they'd start trolling you all.

If you don't like that sort of story, you stop supporting Bioware.  You don't whine and complain for five months.  They're done listening.  This is how they want the story to end, you either take it or leave it.  They aren't changing the ending.  It's time to deal with it and move on.

Modifié par chemiclord, 12 août 2012 - 10:40 .

[Conniving_Eagle]

AresKeith wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

F4H bandicoot wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...


If only someone could make a blue childrens ending where either shepard could end up with liara and help her rebuild thessia and have the blue kids I'd definitly would like to get the coding to put it into my own game

I do think that if they ever showed the relationships future,

Liara's theme would be the blue children.

Garrus' would be adopting a baby krogan

Tali's would be helping her build her house at that spot she called.

I can't speak for the rest of the romances....

But that's just it, they say they don't want to 'spoil' what some people might like to headcanon, but they have already laid the groundwork for what 'could' happen, that it kind of makes that quote just a cop out.

This was what I was actually expecting.

My FemShep romanced Thane

and the bad part about that is in ME2 they wrote in a cure for Thane

Yeah, FemShep got shafted in the Romance department.

[F4H bandicoot]

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

F4H bandicoot wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...


If only someone could make a blue childrens ending where either shepard could end up with liara and help her rebuild thessia and have the blue kids I'd definitly would like to get the coding to put it into my own game

I do think that if they ever showed the relationships future,

Liara's theme would be the blue children.

Garrus' would be adopting a baby krogan

Tali's would be helping her build her house at that spot she called.

I can't speak for the rest of the romances....

But that's just it, they say they don't want to 'spoil' what some people might like to headcanon, but they have already laid the groundwork for what 'could' happen, that it kind of makes that quote just a cop out.

This was what I was actually expecting.

My FemShep romanced Thane

and the bad part about that is in ME2 they wrote in a cure for Thane

Yeah, FemShep got shafted in the Romance department.

I read that wrong 

[Jadebaby]

lol oh BSN, never change....

[MattFini]

Destroy should've ended similarly to ME1: with your squadmates and/or LI digging through the rubble to pull Shepard out.

I would've been more than happy with that. Seeing Shep walk into the proverbial sunset with his friends/LI. No dialogue needed, but a straight-up confirmation that Shepard lives.

The ambiguous "breath" scene is okay ... I don't hate it, it's the only ending I choose, but it's not an appropriate way to end the trilogy.

[Jadebaby]

MattFini wrote...

Destroy should've ended similarly to ME1: with your squadmates and/or LI digging through the rubble to pull Shepard out.

I would've been more than happy with that. Seeing Shep walk into the proverbial sunset with his friends/LI. No dialogue needed, but a straight-up confirmation that Shepard lives.

The ambiguous "breath" scene is okay ... I don't hate it, it's the only ending I choose, but it's not an appropriate way to end the trilogy.

I agree with everything bolded.

[MattFini]

Hahaha, believe me, I had to work at accepting the "breath" scene.

It's pretty much me putting my love of the series and the universe over the crushing disappointment of the ending. Although some days I wake up and still hate it.

[Jadebaby]

My love of the series and the universe is the reason I'm so upset. I literally can't get over it and think about it everyday, without fail.

It's nauseating.

[medusa_hair]

Jamie9 wrote...

plfranke wrote...
Right. Maybe if the theme of the story was forgiveness and turning the other cheek you'd be right, but it wasn't. Killing the Reapers was the theme of the story.

The Genophage and Quarian/Geth conflicts.

The theme of those? Forgiveness.

Are the Krogans able to forgive the Turians and Salarians? Are the Turians and Salarians able to forgive the Krogan?

Are the Quarians able to forgive the Geth? Are the Geth able to forgive the Quarians?

True.  But the overarching theme is war and the sacrifices and losses attendant with it.  Destroy is the only possible choice, although it means sacrificing people you have fought for (possibly) and with (which makes it more personal).  Control and Synthesis both remove CHOICE and free will from billions of sentient beings.  Given that one of the major complaints about the ending is a lack of real choice, it is surprising and ironic that so many people chose an ending that imposes your morality on them without giving them the opportunity to choose for themselves.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Jade8aby88 wrote...


So why doesn't Shepard (after 5 long years!) receive proper closure in the destroy ending?

Proper closure =/= art

PS: I hope you have realized from my posts that I'm as upset as everyone else about this.

Modifié par sH0tgUn jUliA, 13 août 2012 - 12:34 .

[Jadebaby]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...


So why doesn't Shepard (after 5 long years!) receive proper closure in the destroy ending?

Proper closure =/= art

PS: I hope you have realized from my posts that I'm as upset as everyone else about this.

Even if I didn't, you said the "A" word. Anytime one mentions that, everything else in their post is automatically reduced to sarcasm.

[m2iCodeJockey]

Jamie9 wrote...
The Genophage and Quarian/Geth conflicts.
The theme of those? Forgiveness.
Are the Krogans able to forgive the Turians and Salarians? Are the Turians and Salarians able to forgive the Krogan?
Are the Quarians able to forgive the Geth? Are the Geth able to forgive the Quarians?

satunnainen wrote...
Next patch will add a random thresher maw who comes and eats Shepard right after that breath scene. There, you got closure

*35mm, pan up to femshep's chest*
FemShep: "*gasp!!"
*random sovereign class reaper pulls up and fires a thresher maw cannon at the crucible mount*
Thresher Maw: "I've been waiting for this since Akuze!!" *eats femshep*
FemShep: "I forgive you..."
Thresher Maw: "Nom-nom-nom!!"
*slow fade to black*
"...continue the adventure through..."

Modifié par m2iCodeJockey, 13 août 2012 - 01:11 .

[Memnon]

Bioware painted themselves into the proverbial corner - they simply had to choose between allowing Shepard to live, or having him die. Any combination of  sacrifice if you do x vice live if you do y, and the vast majority picks y, has drinks with Garrus on the beach, and reunites with their LI.  So they had to make a choice (otherwise any effort working on the "heroic sacrifice" scenarios is wasted) and they chose sacrifice ... so the game basically transitions from ME1, ME2, 90% of ME3, to okay now pick how you're going to die. Forcing themselves (and us) into the "heroic sacrifice" basically put them in this mess ... 

[Jadebaby]

Stornskar wrote...

Bioware painted themselves into the proverbial corner - they simply had to choose between allowing Shepard to live, or having him die. Any combination of  sacrifice if you do x vice live if you do y, and the vast majority picks y, has drinks with Garrus on the beach, and reunites with their LI.  So they had to make a choice (otherwise any effort working on the "heroic sacrifice" scenarios is wasted) and they chose sacrifice ... so the game basically transitions from ME1, ME2, 90% of ME3, to okay now pick how you're going to die. Forcing themselves (and us) into the "heroic sacrifice" basically put them in this mess ... 

It's definitely part of the problem, yes.

But it DIDN'T ruin the other endings, BioWare must not realise how many times people replay their games....

If I could get proper closure for my canon shep. I, in fact, have a shep whose first name is idiot shep. It's a sheploo character that I started out doing renegade because I didn't think I'd like it, but then I grew to like it so I made him become dumb shep (a lot of people died on ME2 SM). This character would be perfect for Synthesis. And then I could use my proper renegade sheploo Hades Shepard, to pick control.

But all of this is irrelevant because my canon, who I care deeply about, got ****ed.

[Jere85]

My Shepard died in the me2 suicide mission saving everybody else.
They revived me again with lazarus, this time with a control chip, not letting me do anything but follow a straight line.

[Nightwriter]

The developers wanted Shepard to die. If you're unhappy with that, they're sorry you feel that way, but they're not changing it, and they think you should move on. Apparently.

Modifié par Nightwriter, 13 août 2012 - 01:48 .

[Iakus]

Nightwriter wrote...

The developers wanted Shepard to die. If you're unhappy with that, they're sorry you feel that way, but they're not changing it, and they think you should move on. Apparently.

They really should have thought of that before they told us "these are your Shepards" and "your choices matter"

Saying stuff like that, summarilly executing the player's character, then telling said players to move on is not good PR

[chemiclord]

Nightwriter wrote...

The developers wanted Shepard to die. If you're unhappy with that, they're sorry you feel that way, but they're not changing it, and they think you should move on. Apparently.

This.

Whether you like it or not (and it's clear at least a significant portion of the fanbase doesn't), what the hell does continuing to whine about it 5 months later accomplish?  If they were going to cater to you and give you what you wanted, you would have seen it by EC time.

They aren't going to give you what you want.  It's time to walk away.  It's LONG been time to walk away.

[Taboo]

Authorial intent is clear. The only limiting factor is the audience. If you can't get past this concept, it's best to walk away, as you're only making yourself suffer.

The implementation is terrible, but the intent is clear.

[Memnon]

chemiclord wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...

The developers wanted Shepard to die. If you're unhappy with that, they're sorry you feel that way, but they're not changing it, and they think you should move on. Apparently.

This.

Whether you like it or not (and it's clear at least a significant portion of the fanbase doesn't), what the hell does continuing to whine about it 5 months later accomplish?  If they were going to cater to you and give you what you wanted, you would have seen it by EC time.

They aren't going to give you what you want.  It's time to walk away.  It's LONG been time to walk away.

How long after FO3 was released did Broken Steel come out?

[Nightwriter]

iakus wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...

The developers wanted Shepard to die. If you're unhappy with that, they're sorry you feel that way, but they're not changing it, and they think you should move on. Apparently.

They really should have thought of that before they told us "these are your Shepards" and "your choices matter"

Saying stuff like that, summarilly executing the player's character, then telling said players to move on is not good PR

Good PR isn't possible. If it's anything other than "we were wrong and we're changing the endings" critics aren't going to be happy with it.

I think they're tired of us. Just growing more and more miffed at all the heat. The feedback booth is closed, so our criticisms don't even have the excuse of being constructive anymore. The only thing really left to do is continue to express our unhappiness that Shepard was killed off. Which BioWare is never going to change its mind about.