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jeffyg93

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Yeah, I know. This idea is not very original and has been beaten to death.

However, I think we should be able to recruit Miranda, Grunt, Wrex, Jacob, Samara, Jack, Kasumi, and Zaeed back to the party.

"But shouldn't they be busy doing what their assigned duties are?"

Yes, if you want them too. Like with Kaidan or Ashley, you have the option of welcoming them back to the Normandy or to make them a war asset instead. The same should be done with these characters.

All of these characters should have the option of joining your team after completing their respective missions and if they were loyal to you in ME2 (or in Wrex's case, if you refused to sabotage the genophage AND if you were honest about what the Salarian dalatrass offered you from the beginning). However, there will be a varying level of penalties for doing so. These will be:

Miranda: You lose her war asset. Recruited late in the game.
Jacob: You lose his war asset.
Wrex: You lose his war asset and all the Krogan forces suffer from reduced effectiveness by a certain percentage, heavy speech check required. (Penalties for Wrex are the heaviest)
Grunt: You lose both his personal war asset and his company of Krogan, speech check required (only Renegade will work though).
Jack: You lose her war asset and her students do not boost the other assets as much. Her students' fate still rests on your decision to keep them in support roles or send them off to offensive roles like in the EC. Requires speech check - she doesn't want to leave her students.
Samara: You lose her war asset. Speech check required (only Paragon will work though).
Kasumi: You lose her war asset. Speech check required (she seemed unwilling to get on board again).
Zaeed: You lose his war asset.

Same battle cries can be reused from ME2. Voice actors would have to be called back in, but I assume they are still under contract. They can simple have ambient dialogue. Maybe add some additional dialogue for comments about a certain mission. In addition new dialogue will have to be recorded for Priority: Earth, both when you say goodbye, or when you say goodbye to one of them on the Normandy in the Extended Cut.

Having Grunt or Samara only join you if you make the correct dialogue choice seems a little harsh, but it's more realistic since Samara disapproves of a renegade Shepard in ME2, and Grunt is well... Grunt, and likes to kill things and will not likely listen to a paragon speech about love and community.

I'd be willing to pay a good $10-$20 for this. Since such an effort like this would require a lot of dialogue work, I would understand if the price was made higher.

Modifié par jeffyg93, 12 août 2012 - 09:10 .


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David7204

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It's not that simple. Full time ME 2 squadmates complicate dialogue very quickly.

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I think you misspelled the title, its supposed to read "Dinosaur DLC".

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David7204 wrote...

It's not that simple. Full time ME 2 squadmates complicate dialogue very quickly.


How so?

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I would love that. But honestly I expected this to be in the main game.

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There are slightly less than 4096 different combinations of squadmates surviving and dying on the suicide mission. 4083, if I'm not mistaken. The dialogue in ME 3 needs to work for every single one of those possibilities. Writing and coding realistic dialogue that works between multiple squadmates and reflects who's alive and who's dead would be incredibly difficult and tedious with a lot more squadmates. It gets exponentially more complex the more squadmates you bring back.

It might work with one or two more. But you'd still upset people no matter who you picked to come back.

Modifié par David7204, 12 août 2012 - 09:15 .


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Chaotic-Fusion wrote...

I would love that. But honestly I expected this to be in the main game.



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I support this.

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Reading this post makes me think of what me3 should have been...

Squad of 7 limit but able to choose all squaddies (minus wrex I think) from all games to have on the normandy with you.

Instead we got.......I don't want to think about it

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That's a stupid idea.

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BatmanPWNS

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Batarian. Batarian. Batarian.

Oh and Bioware would never waste their time making DLC for characters that can potentially be dead.

So I say again:

Batarian. Batarian. Batarian.

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we will not see anymore ME2 squadmates become squadies in ME3, for various reasons,

a DLC bring back <insert squadmate here> would do nothing to those who had <insert squadmate here> die during the suicide mission.

Rule #1 of DLC: Make sure the purpose of said DLC will affect everyone. and bringing back ME2 squadmates would not follow this rule as they could be dead.

So, we are NEVER going to get ME2 squadmates back, deal with it and move on

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Chaotic-Fusion

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Sure they might be dead, but they made the suicide mission knowing full well what it might entail.
What happened to them priding themselves on making content only 2% of their players might see?

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I think someone has forgotten there was one more character in ME2 that should be squadmate as well.

Actually, a character who is not only a great squadmate but is also very interesting.:whistle:

Modifié par Vlk3, 12 août 2012 - 09:28 .


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Vlk3 wrote...

I think someone have forgotten there was one more character in ME2 that should be squadmate as well.


Guessing by your sig, you're referring to Thane, and I respectfully disagree. Thane was handled well in ME3 except for femSheps who romanced him, which could have used a little more content.

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Chaotic-Fusion wrote...

Sure they might be dead, but they made the suicide mission knowing full well what it might entail.
What happened to them priding themselves on making content only 2% of their players might see?

They have never prided themselves on that, in fact it's something they tend to avoid.

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I have to disagree. Thane had so much more to tell and BioWare ruined it by making him a character whose only purpose was to die quickly and talk about his disease. If you're asking for ME2 squadmates in ME3 squad, you just can't discriminate Thane and his fans, that's hypocritical.

If you want some equality in ME3 game regarding the squadmates, you should start to change your ways of thinking first.

Modifié par Vlk3, 12 août 2012 - 09:38 .


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Seeing people talk like this on the one side is those fighting the good fight, for what we were promised in ME3, fighting for what ME3 was to be, should be, and could have been, and could be still, with work and effort, BW would have to pull a comeback unrivaled. It can happen unless you don't want it to happen.

On the other side is people defeated or who really want the ME2 fans to give up and go away, because your all happy with your little fun time with the blue berry, or dull Mr. Tom Pretty Boy Brady/Kaidan, or they are fine with that thing that is being passed off as Ashley. Whatever their reasons are don't matter really.

All that matters is the fact that these two very different sides make this place so damn depressing.

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Why do people keep asking for Wrex? Seriously, he's got the best reason for not being able to join you. And Jacob? Why would anyone want Jacob? No, we need a Batarian squadmate and Conrad Verner. And maybe Jack, even though she's busy.

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Leonardo the Magnificent wrote...

Why do people keep asking for Wrex? Seriously, he's got the best reason for not being able to join you. And Jacob? Why would anyone want Jacob? No, we need a Batarian squadmate and Conrad Verner. And maybe Jack, even though she's busy.


Like I said in my post, recruiting him would be hard and would have the most penalties. And yes, some people like Jacob, including me.

A Batarian squadmate would be nice, but BSN would be throwing pitchforks out because they would see the new squadmate as standing in the way of a ME2 character's position (like with James).

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there will be no new squadmate DLC. NEVER!

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Chaotic-Fusion wrote...

Sure they might be dead, but they made the suicide mission knowing full well what it might entail.
What happened to them priding themselves on making content only 2% of their players might see?


I laugh at the argument of squadies died in ME2.

so what. use a different save. Let's have real choice where it matters.

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Seifer006 wrote...

Chaotic-Fusion wrote...

Sure they might be dead, but they made the suicide mission knowing full well what it might entail.
What happened to them priding themselves on making content only 2% of their players might see?


I laugh at the argument of squadies died in ME2.

so what. use a different save. Let's have real choice where it matters.


This has nothing to do with choices. It's more to do with selling DLC's.

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BatmanPWNS wrote...

Seifer006 wrote...

Chaotic-Fusion wrote...

Sure they might be dead, but they made the suicide mission knowing full well what it might entail.
What happened to them priding themselves on making content only 2% of their players might see?


I laugh at the argument of squadies died in ME2.

so what. use a different save. Let's have real choice where it matters.


This has nothing to do with choices. It's more to do with selling DLC's.

Then BW is doing things @ssed backwards charge for the MP DLC and give the SP ME2 Squadies DLC free. Oh wait but charging for the MP DLC would cost BW their beloved new fanbase.

I don't give a cr@P because I know many of us ME fans would buy the ME2 squadmate DLCs and so BW wouldn't really have to worry about selling it it's already sold.

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BatmanPWNS wrote...

Seifer006 wrote...

Chaotic-Fusion wrote...

Sure they might be dead, but they made the suicide mission knowing full well what it might entail.
What happened to them priding themselves on making content only 2% of their players might see?


I laugh at the argument of squadies died in ME2.

so what. use a different save. Let's have real choice where it matters.


This has nothing to do with choices. It's more to do with selling DLC's.


well yeah obviously.

But if you want to make Money. You're going to appeal to the Fan Base. Most fans want ME2 Squad-Mates back.

So make a DLC that'll sell very good. Not a DLC that isn't just one character......but a DLC has much replay value.

For Example: Many would like a DLC with Miranda & Jack. Both have large fan bases. So why not a DLC of them together? Both have nothing to do with Cerberus. They hate them. Another fan base would like a DLC with Jack & Wrex.  Another (me included) have proposed a DLC: Reunion with Wrex & Aria (Aleena from ME1)

I have seen other threads of this back when ME2 was out. People wanted this, but like many threads. they get buried and it's not like Developers can look at all these threads.

Anyway, You make a DLC worthy of replay value. Wrex can be killed. Any other character could fulfil his role since this would add Replay Value. Many wanted to see who the Shadow Broker was. That sold well. Many wanted to see Admiral Hackett, that also sold well.

If executed properly, it'll work.