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Leiliana Romance - no seriously, is it bugged?


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In playing a human female, intending to do the Alistair romance, i could not keep Lei off of me.

now playing a human male and i cannot get the scale to trip over from the friendly to the love scale. what the heck?

* have given her nearly every gift - shoes, and the flower

* did majorline quest and talked with her about it

* have 93% approval (as friendly) and have agreed with her on everything but the shoes (sorry, my human noble male is not into shoes) 

* have chosen every single "beautiful woman" comment possible. 

could my poor human male be any MORE obvious with her? could she be any more cruel. come on Lei, give the guy a break.

oh, and 

* told morrigan to go get a blanket.

what gives?

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You did not give her Schmooples!



But yeah, it is bugged.

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93 friendly sounds fishy. You should have adore with that rating.

Either your game bugged out or you said something wrong that put you into "friendly" status.


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gar



okay, i SO was not being just friendly. it's weird - ever since the 1.02 patch came out that said it "fixed the leiliana romance" i have not been able to get the romance scale to trip over at all.



fine. morrigan it is, then.

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i find it easier to get her in the sack on a male pc then female. i do notice that she has to be full blown in love w/ my charecters first. now for me, tryna get alistair to go for my female toons is becoming annoying, but thats prob cuase i always find my self sleeping w/ the red headed bard, like every playthrough.

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okay - let me amend that i did 2 more conversations in which



* poor male noble told lei that he hoped she would like him for himself



and



* that he wanted her to stay with him after it's all over



result 100 friendly.



OUCH!

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Sometimes I think giving her gifts makes it harder because her approval goes up too fast. I always ask her if I "get a reward" after talking to her after completing her quest. And then I wait until she pursues me. Apparently, if she knows you want her, she decides you're too needy!

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@ lostscout



huh - okay. so it's more a timing issue



i can dig that. i just really find morrigan...creepy.

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Yeah, my first playthrough ended with her adoring me, but my poor character wound up never sleeping with anyone, cause she wanted Leliana and it just... never happened.

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I find her very easy for my female characters, I actually have to dump her at least once every game because somebody or other gets jealous.


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Other than when I was in another romance, I haven't had any problems. If you say you really care about xxxx, then she goes into friendship mode. I actually had an easier time getting a relationship with her on my first female human noble, when I wasn't really trying, just doing girl talk, or what I thought was girl talk, anyway. Not being a girl, it's hard for me to say, but I guess the shoe thing really tripped her trigger.

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okay.....



so i'm hearing 2 things:



1. it takes time with her and 2. you have to say the right thing



is it both or 1 or 2?



i'm at redcliff, have 100 friendly, gave almost all gifts, and have gone out of my way to encourage her. still confused.

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I'm think that once she turns friendly it's the kiss of death. As long as she's just fond of you I think there is a chance. Hate to say this, but you might need to return to a pre Marjolaine save and work through it again. I think there are some mods that will reset the romance thing but don't know how well they work.

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im having the same problem. but how do you know if she adores you or if its just a friendly relationship??

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If you hold your cursor over her approval bar in the inventory or character screen it will say - interested, warm, adore or love and how many approval points there are.

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Check your rating. I am not sure it should ever be friendly if you have a chance of romance.
I am not completely positive but I think if you can have the romance the rating goes neutral > warm > interested > care > adore > love.

Modifié par Cybercat999, 22 décembre 2009 - 03:28 .


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i noticed the main point in all my romances w/ her, the key seemed to be when i ask her if shes ever felt the way she felt about maj. she has always replied she thinks she feels that way about me etc etc. also, if she thinks u have a thing going w/ someone else, say morrigan, she will either confront u eventually and force u to end things, kinda like if ur romancing lel, as a female, alistair will do the same and force u to choose.



ur best bet would be to save ur game, talk to morrigan and end things even if nothings officially happened. if that doesnt work, start slepping w/ morrigan until lelianna confronts u about it. choose her and u should be golden.



if that doesnt work, i honestly dont know what else to try.

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okay, i *think* i found the source of the problem - could this be it?



i've been friendly to morrigan - not overly so, but i've been nice to her



then i stopped to gossip with alistair. in spite of the fact that i said morrigan was merely useful and i didn't have to like her and i told him that there was nothing going on between us, he said "you're a terrible liar"



could that be it? i'm thinking that somehow cemented the morrigan as love interest not lei thing? 'cause i just can't figure out this otherwise.

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VeeJayNaSsassin wrote...

i noticed the main point in all my romances w/ her, the key seemed to be when i ask her if shes ever felt the way she felt about maj. she has always replied she thinks she feels that way about me etc etc. also, if she thinks u have a thing going w/ someone else, say morrigan, she will either confront u eventually and force u to end things, kinda like if ur romancing lel, as a female, alistair will do the same and force u to choose.

ur best bet would be to save ur game, talk to morrigan and end things even if nothings officially happened. if that doesnt work, start slepping w/ morrigan until lelianna confronts u about it. choose her and u should be golden.

if that doesnt work, i honestly dont know what else to try.


the problem is that i don't have the romance scale. it's on the friend scale. so i never got the option to ask her about marjoline like that. she responded exactly as she did with the friendly fem pc.

and the crazy thing was with the fem pc, i'd already done the alistair romance, lei commented on how athletic he was and good at "taking orders" (k, that was a little weird) and the next conversation she was asking me to bed.  this time around my poor male pc is all in love with her and can't get any lovin'

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Cybercat999 wrote...

Check your rating. I am not sure it should ever be friendly if you have a chance of romance.
I am not completely positive but I think if you can have the romance the rating goes neutral > warm > interested > care > adore > love.


oh, yikes.  no it goes neutral > interested. if it's warm and that's the kiss of death, then i've been dead since lothering.

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in one rouge elf playthrough, i was romancing morrigan and lel wouldnt consider me, eventually she confronted me about it when i accidently talked to her in group while trying to pick a locked chest instead. anyway, i chose her over morrigan and on the next visit to camp, she asked me to her tent.

mind u i was sleeping w/ morr, and the first time she confronted me i lied and lel felt embarressed for thinking morr was in my tent for any other reason then to talk about darkspawn.



any way, she confronted me again a little later saying she was most hurt that i lied to her and forced me to choose between her and morr.

that could be your problem,

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k mebbe just needs more time.



patience, oh human noble.

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What did you say about Lel in that conversation with Alistair? Maybe there is something in there that cements her as a friend. The only time I locked her in as a friend is when my pc was romancing Alistair and Lel and she forced me to choose between them, and I said "I don't want to live without either of you". She dumped me! The nerve!

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You're still fine if it says warm, or care and I think adore. I think it's just if it goes to "Friendly" that you are locked out. Maybe you could romance Zev to create a little jealousy?

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She loves me but she wouldn't sleep with me either. Fortunately Morrigan was more willing.