sylnnn wrote...
Cthulhu42 wrote...
@sylnnn: you forgot Javik, who is most certainly not pathetic.
Yup, my bad, I totally forgot him... and I do love me a dry witted troll, so he kinda falls in to the "pass" list.
And yes, based on my previous descriptions of the other males, Garrus is superior.
He isn't a pu... kitty,
He isn't one dimensional.
He isn't just a yes man.
He isn't emo.
That isn't fully correct - and I also compare him to my fave character Ashley.
He isn't a pu... kitty,No, he isn't. He's a die-hard cop, vigilante and soldier. Someone you'd love to cover your back since you know he won't stick a knife in said back.
Same for Ashley: in the field, she's a loyal soldier. Even with all her trust issues (which are a bit too much in ME3), she's following your lead.
He isn't one dimensional.Hmmm, yes and no. I think he's quite predictable, which hints a simplier personality. The illusion of a multi-level character is created by the fact that you know him as inexperienced young cop, a vigilante and a die-hard soldier - as I said before. That plus his "buddyship".
But technically, his character is different in every part of the series.
Ashley on the other hand was very multi-dimensional in ME1 but got reduced to a shallow character in ME3. And yes, she was hated for being a religious person with nationalist (patriotic) view and the guts for calling out Shepard. In ME3, she's only calling out Shepard - and gets laid as soon as she's in a romance
He isn't just a yes man.He is. Whatever you do, he'll follow you, no complaining. You can shape him towards paragon or renegade in ME1. You can be a brutal murderer in any game, he won't complain. You can be a friend of everyone - he won't complain. That makes him to a "yes man".
Ash is the complete opposite here. She complains often and doesn't blindly follow your lead. However, that doesn't make her less loyal than Garrus - she's just loyal to the Alliance first and THEN Shepard.
Like every patriotic soldier.
By the way, she's hated for that.
He isn't emo.Nope. He's not. That's the best trait: he's emotional without being cheesy or an emo. That creates the "buddy illusion".
That's one of the traits Ashley in ME3 is missing. She's only emotional if romanced. Outside her romance, she's cold, nearly a shell of a woman. Compared to ME1, where Ash had a similar level of emotions like Garrus has in ME3, she's dead.
As far as character writing goes - he's loyal, funny, awkward(in romance), a badass, has genuinely evolved in character and maturity, has great ground team skills and isn't afraid to push or question.
They had to give all that to a character that was going to be with you through all 3 games. And while Tali is also a crewmate for all 3, she is barely there for 2 and 3.
Well, same for Ashley and she's hated by a lot of people. I'd say she and Garrus have a lot in common - and she's hated for the same traits why Garrus is loved.
However, the lack of her original writer shows in ME3. She's reduced to her sister and the romance arc and without the background from ME1, I would never romance Ash. She never got displayed the way she should have.
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