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[Alanosborn1991]

 Im not sure if this is the right forum to post here but in thinking about it and seeing the striking simularities I think this would be a good topic. That and Halo 4 forums right now are non existent.

In the Halo series you have supersoldier transhumans called Spartans that are used for nothing but war to advance human interests. Some are taken from there familys without choice, others are new who want to represent humanity.
But how do you represent humanity when you are locked away inside a suit of armor and given ridiculous upgrades and cybernetic enhancements? And with absolute loyalty follow a military that wants to explore harsh environments?

You have Cortana, and AI which in the Halo series always go "rampent" after too many years of viewing there own existence. Who was given Forerunner upgrades to become a star map so to say for finding advanced technology and worlds beyond our comprehension. This makes her very similar to EDI and Legion, more towards EDI though because of her relationship with the Master chief. Who is constantly puting her inside his body armor and never given her own body except in hologram form.

You have Halo rings and shieldworld planets. All capable of incomprehensible power, both in causing a pulse of energy to erupt, wiping galaxys clean and for defense using Sentinals and promethean war and tech repair armies. Its just begging for an evil person to take control of using it for his/her own means. Either in carving out an empire in a specific image or for ensuring a dominant species.


So, you have organics seeking perfection through technology and you have synthetics wanting understanding.
Forerunners sought understanding of the Flood even though they could of easily destroyed them, instead they decided to control them, keeping them locked away inside the Halo rings and shieldworlds for study. But in the end they wiped themselves out by activating all the rings but ensuring that the Flood survives. The flood are a organic race of hive minded parasites thats only goal is to consume others, using there bodies and knowledge of the host to spread the disease, sound like Reapers?



All this comes together for me to only conclude that the Halo series and the Mass Effect series all carry a common theme. That Master Chief being the great protector that he is may have to make a horrible decision in the future. Maybe even one were he sacrifices himself to be put into a energy beam that is shot using the Halo arrays around the galaxy, causing organics to stop advancing themselves and the flood to stop consuming others.

What do you all think? Can there be similar outcomes at the end of ME3 in the Halo series?

Modifié par Alanosborn1991, 13 août 2012 - 04:48 .

[Carlthestrange]

I doubt the game will have a "Synthesis" ending, Halo games so far usually end with the protagonist utterly destroying his foe before outrunning some sort of outlandish explosion.

Could guarantee you that if they tried to give Halo 4 a "Deus Ex" style ending, its fans would throw their controllers/keyboards at the screen.

[Tealjaker94]

I'll go ahead and divine that the Halo series will end with me blowing the Flood and whoever the hell else I fight to kingdom come.

[ediskrad327]

Halo is linear so Halo 6 will end with the ancient evil getting destroyed and predictably with the Master Chief dying....and then i can laugh at myself for predicting the ending 6 years prior Halo 6

[D24O]

Yes. I got the leaked script, and the Precursors made the flood to combat forerunner tech destroying all life. And they had a super ARK that allows MC to either destroy all flood, but it will destroy the Elites, he can control the flood, or he can make everything half Forerunner tech and half flood.

[Apocaleepse360]

Nah, Halo's more about blowing your enemies to pieces with the biggest explosion available to you at the time.

Not that it's a bad thing. At least Bungie kept things simple with their endings and didn't try to force emotional impact and had a complex ending just for the sake of it being complex. Not that I'm saying that their games aren't without faults, but they still know how to pull off a satisfying conclusion (Halo 2 aside).

Modifié par Apocaleepse360, 13 août 2012 - 04:14 .

[Grub Killer8016]

No. Halo is nothing like that. I expect lots of explosions and a cliffhanger to continue the series.

[SilentCO1]

No. Mainly because the Flood are already confirmed to not be in Halo 4. That's why 343I made the Prometheans, to replace the Flood and to add something new.

[Ticonderoga117]

Nope. Halo will end with the Master Chief ending it on a badass note, either alive or dead.

Commander Shepard went out with a whimper, or trying to commit suicide, and succeeding.

[The Birdman]

I'm pretty sure the flood are already defeated. They aren't the main threat anymore, I'm sure. It is now the prometheans(which maybe have ties to the forerunner?), and the covenant are still there, but as sub-enemies. While there are many similarities between the halo and mass effect series, organically vs synthetics was never a theme in halo( though you could say the same for mass effect but you know,... ART!!!!).

[Baa Baa]

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

Nope. Halo will end with the Master Chief ending it on a badass note, either alive or dead.

Commander Shepard went out with a whimper, or trying to commit suicide, and succeeding.

[LilLino]

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

Nope. Halo will end with the Master Chief ending it on a badass note, either alive or dead.

Commander Shepard went out with a whimper, or trying to commit suicide, and succeeding.

OH come on, shooting the pipe was bad-ass. If stupid.

And back to the point, no. Synthesis is Deus Ex thing. Only reason ME has it is because Deus Ex has it.
I doubt FPS such as Halo will end Deus Ex style.

[Grub Killer8016]

LiLino.... we got the endings that we have because some writers, being pushed by EA for time, wrote the endings in one or two days without peer edits.

[IElitePredatorI]

Im definately sure it won't have a synthesis ending...

[Ar7emis]

Alanosborn1991 wrote...
[Cortana] Who was given Forerunner upgrades to become a star map so to say for finding advanced technology and worlds beyond our comprehension.

Erm... this never happened. Cortana did not get given any Forerunner upgrades, if you're referring to whatever that 'Latchkey Artefact' was in Reach, not only do we not know what information it had it was just that - a data centre. She's just spent a lot of time with Forerunner technology which has apparently made her 'different' to other human AIs because none of the others have been exposed to that kind of information before.

So, you have organics seeking perfection through technology and you have synthetics wanting understanding. Forerunners sought understanding of the Flood even though they could of easily destroyed them, instead they decided to control them, keeping them locked away inside the Halo rings and shieldworlds for study. But in the end they wiped themselves out by activating all the rings but ensuring that the Flood survives. The flood are a organic race of hive minded parasites thats only goal is to consume others, using there bodies and knowledge of the host to spread the disease, sound like Reapers?

1) They didn't keep Flood samples on the Shield Worlds, that would be counter-intuitive to the very purpose of a Shield World...

2) The Forerunners weren't wiped out. It has been confirmed since 2007 that they survived and performed a mass exodus beyond the Orion Arm of the galaxy, Mendicant Bias sends John to them to prove he [Mendicant Bias] has atoned for betraying them 100,000 years ago.

3) The goals of the Flood and Reapers are different. The Precursors created the Flood and saw them as the perfect life form, thus the concept of the Mantle was created which dictated that all races who are 'tested' by the Precursors would have to succumb to the Flood in order to pass.

All this comes together for me to only conclude that the Halo series and the Mass Effect series all carry a common theme. That Master Chief being the great protector that he is may have to make a horrible decision in the future. Maybe even one were he sacrifices himself to be put into a energy beam that is shot using the Halo arrays around the galaxy, causing organics to stop advancing themselves and the flood to stop consuming others.

What do you all think? Can there be similar outcomes at the end of ME3 in the Halo series?

No because 343i's writers (I speak primarily of Kevin Grace) are capable of writing thematically consistent stories that actually make sense.

[Ticonderoga117]

LilLino wrote...
OH come on, shooting the pipe was bad-ass. If stupid.

And back to the point, no. Synthesis is Deus Ex thing. Only reason ME has it is because Deus Ex has it.
I doubt FPS such as Halo will end Deus Ex style.

It was very stupid. So stupid that it removes any badassery.

Shepard, you have a gun, not a club. You can destroy the pipe at a distance without needing to move at all you dolt!

[Ar7emis]

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

LilLino wrote...
OH come on, shooting the pipe was bad-ass. If stupid.

And back to the point, no. Synthesis is Deus Ex thing. Only reason ME has it is because Deus Ex has it.
I doubt FPS such as Halo will end Deus Ex style.

It was very stupid. So stupid that it removes any badassery.

Shepard, you have a gun, not a club. You can destroy the pipe at a distance without needing to move at all you dolt!

IT = proved.

Maybe he didn't want to see the shenanigans which would occur in the aftermath of his galaxy-wide fcuk-uppery so he decided it would be a good idea to try and kill himself faster (apparently the blood loss wasn't nearly fast enough).

[Jadebaby]

I can't see how this thread will stay open, but I've been surprised once already today...

The answer OP?

Yes, by 2014 the Government will issue an ultimatum to their countries. Fall in line and "merge" or be discarded. This is because aliens have already infiltrated our political and military ranks and the process of "ascension" has already begun.

One of the corrupted political officials saw the mental willpower of gamer's and decided to taint all games from ME3 to the "event" with foreign/human integrating themes, so as to when the "event" happens. It wont come as a shock to everyone, even some gamers calling their lives "foreshadowing" of this event.

[MacNasty]

Ar7emis wrote...

So, you have organics seeking perfection through technology and you have synthetics wanting understanding. Forerunners sought understanding of the Flood even though they could of easily destroyed them, instead they decided to control them, keeping them locked away inside the Halo rings and shieldworlds for study. But in the end they wiped themselves out by activating all the rings but ensuring that the Flood survives. The flood are a organic race of hive minded parasites thats only goal is to consume others, using there bodies and knowledge of the host to spread the disease, sound like Reapers?

2) The Forerunners weren't wiped out. It has been confirmed since 2007 that they survived and performed a mass exodus beyond the Orion Arm of the galaxy, Mendicant Bias sends John to them to prove he [Mendicant Bias] has atoned for betraying them 100,000 years ago.

3) The goals of the Flood and Reapers are different. The Precursors created the Flood and saw them as the perfect life form, thus the concept of the Mantle was created which dictated that all races who are 'tested' by the Precursors would have to succumb to the Flood in order to pass.

All this comes together for me to only conclude that the Halo series and the Mass Effect series all carry a common theme. That Master Chief being the great protector that he is may have to make a horrible decision in the future. Maybe even one were he sacrifices himself to be put into a energy beam that is shot using the Halo arrays around the galaxy, causing organics to stop advancing themselves and the flood to stop consuming others.

What do you all think? Can there be similar outcomes at the end of ME3 in the Halo series?

No because 343i's writers (I speak primarily of Kevin Grace) are capable of writing thematically consistent stories that actually make sense.

2- Actually, that's the Precursors you're thinking of. Forerunners likely just hid in the shield worlds.
3- Also, no one knows what the true purpose of the Flood was, nor even if the Precursors made it, not to mention with so many theories out there for them.

I really, really hope not. 343i knows their fanbase well enough, and they also seem to understand how to make a good story. So we'll likely have a good ending.

[Jamie9]

I've noticed many similarities between Halo and Mass Effect.

I sincerely doubt a synthesis ending. There doesn't seem to be any way to make peace with the Flood.

Smart AI don't need to become human. We just need to postpone (or eliminate entirely) rampancy. The Forerunners themselves had already managed this.

[tyrvas]

No more FLOOD! they are gone. I know I got rid of them.

[Elite Midget]

Carlthestrange wrote...

I doubt the game will have a "Synthesis" ending, Halo games so far usually end with the protagonist utterly destroying his foe before outrunning some sort of outlandish explosion.

Could guarantee you that if they tried to give Halo 4 a "Deus Ex" style ending, its fans would throw their controllers/keyboards at the screen.

They would also say that 343 ruined the Halo franchise.

[Jamie9]

tyrvas wrote...

No more FLOOD! they are gone. I know I got rid of them.

Installation 01, Installation 02, Installation 03, Installation 06, Installation 07.

These all contain the Flood.

[SpamBot2000]

I'd think the developers of Halo might have heard some whisperings about a synthesis ending not necessarily being a huge hit for ME.

[Atakuma]

Why do people even care? Did the story become less awful after halo 2 or something?

Modifié par Atakuma, 13 août 2012 - 04:58 .