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[MacNasty]

JaceBelerin wrote...

MacNasty wrote...

. The covenant attacked Reach in 2552. They showed up at Harvest (the first colony to fall) in 2525. In 2531 (21 years before the fall of reach) the Spartan III program was started. They gave them pretty much the same augmentations, with a few differences. Newer technology decreased mortality rates drastically. They were suicide soldiers mostly. They weren't given MJOLNIR armor because of the high mortality rate in battle, because they were suicide soldiers. However, a select few were taken out and away from most of the others because they showed more promise, and fit the specifications of the genes required for the Spartan II program. And yeah, most Spartan III candidates didn't show the same psych profiling, but a few of them did. They took in orphans from the Covenant mostly, so they had a lot of volunteers.

And yes, we are so picky... That's why we're the best kind of fans:D We make for the least of the problems.

Things still don't sit right here. Harvest was attacked in 2525 which is right when the Spartan II's were getting their augments. They then continued to fight the colonies for a while more and it isn't until Reach that a full scale war is started. The fact that they were training III's before that just doesn't add up to me. Maybe its because of what Reach did to the canon, but for the time being I just nod my head and try no to think to much about it.

The full scale war started at Harvest. After Harvest fell, the UNSC has put far more time into fighting the Covenant than anything else. Sure they still fight some of the insurrectionists, but most of their times was spenting fighting the Covenant for over twenty years. They fought at every planet and everywhere they possibly could. There were a lot of battles.Though the Spartan II's did just get their augments around that time, and they got their armor after Harvest fell I believe. 

This might help a bit.

[Ar7emis]

JaceBelerin wrote...

MacNasty wrote...

. The covenant attacked Reach in 2552. They showed up at Harvest (the first colony to fall) in 2525. In 2531 (21 years before the fall of reach) the Spartan III program was started. They gave them pretty much the same augmentations, with a few differences. Newer technology decreased mortality rates drastically. They were suicide soldiers mostly. They weren't given MJOLNIR armor because of the high mortality rate in battle, because they were suicide soldiers. However, a select few were taken out and away from most of the others because they showed more promise, and fit the specifications of the genes required for the Spartan II program. And yeah, most Spartan III candidates didn't show the same psych profiling, but a few of them did. They took in orphans from the Covenant mostly, so they had a lot of volunteers.

And yes, we are so picky... That's why we're the best kind of fans:D We make for the least of the problems.

Things still don't sit right here. Harvest was attacked in 2525 which is right when the Spartan II's were getting their augments. They then continued to fight the colonies for a while more and it isn't until Reach that a full scale war is started. The fact that they were training III's before that just doesn't add up to me. Maybe its because of what Reach did to the canon, but for the time being I just nod my head and try no to think to much about it.

Eh? The 'full scale war' begun at the end of the First battle of Harvest when Truth declared all humans needed to be eradicated because they're an affront to their religion (in reality, he'd learned from Mendicant Bias that humanity were the inheritors of the Forerunner Mantle and were the true Reclaimers).

As for the whole 'game canon > book canon' thing, that was Bungie's philosophy and it turned the halo universe into a meandering miasma of random events being clumsily clumped together. 343i's canonical policy has changed, since all the current fiction is being interweaved into the Reclaimer Trilogy (4, 5 and 6) which demands consistency.

Is anyone else finding it surreal we're discussing Halo on a Mass Effect forum? o_O

Modifié par Ar7emis, 13 août 2012 - 08:26 .

[Grub Killer8016]

Some of the conversations in this thread need to be moved to a Halo Forum. This is Mass Effect after all.

[Jamie9]

Grub Killer8016 wrote...

Some of the conversations in this thread need to be moved to a Halo Forum. This is Mass Effect after all.

It's completely off-topic, sure. But it's just a civil chat.

Despite what some people say, I think the moderators are very lenient. This forum (story and campaign) has more off-topic topics than the off-topic forum.

Yet as long as it's good discussion it's usually left up for quite a while.

[Kortenx12]

I like it when this happens, always hope more people see that there is much to Halo and fixes misconceptions.

[Druss99]

Jamie9 wrote...

JaceBelerin wrote...
A shame. I wonder if they'll make any more drastic changes then. I have high hopes for 343 and their ability to make a story, but we shall see.

343 have stated they don't like overwriting things. They actually seem to have a long term plan, up to Halo 6. So it's unlikely there'll be any big contradictions now.

In fact, Reach is the biggest canon-breaker in the Haloverse. Most of the other things fit together.

The problem is they now have Karen Traviss writing the novels, who in the past has admitted that she purposefully doesn't read any canon stuff before writing her in universe novels. Given her Star Wars work I don't doubt her, she pissed allover the canon. I was going to give her first Halo novel a try but read some of the reviews on Amazon and it seems to be the same story again with her changing characters and viewpoints to suit her own agenda, which is bizarre at best. I imagine the canon will end up a total mess eventually if she is given enough time. I don't understand why she keeps getting hired to work on sci-fi franchises, is there really no one better?

[TheClonesLegacy]

God I hope not

[Lionfranky]

Atakuma wrote...

Why do people even care? Did the story become less awful after halo 2 or something?

Your ignorance is simply astounding. So I can say why people even care Mass Effect after disastrous ending?

[DarkDragon777]

No.

And don't try to compare Mass Effect to a series that's vastly superior, please.

Modifié par DarkDragon777, 16 août 2012 - 06:24 .