Grubas wrote...
TS2Aggie wrote...
The trial at the beginning was cut for some reason. Still kind of annoyed about that.
Iam glad they cut the trial. What should he be trialed for? For blowing up a relay? If you dont do it, Alliance comandos will.
But probably there will be an opportunity to recapitalise on past actions for the Wiiu. Interactive comic, might be some sort of trial as well.
Sora Kitano wrote...
Grubas wrote...
TS2Aggie wrote...
The trial at the beginning was cut for some reason. Still kind of annoyed about that.
Iam glad they cut the trial. What should he be trialed for? For blowing up a relay? If you dont do it, Alliance comandos will.
But probably there will be an opportunity to recapitalise on past actions for the Wiiu. Interactive comic, might be some sort of trial as well.
That is as much of a mistake as it was to port over to PS3
100% agreed.Terror_K wrote...
rdnanez wrote...
no...they cut the final boss battle because it would be too "video gamey" and "cheesy" which i completely agree with. they also cut it because they were criticized for the me2 boss battle. boss battles are dumb and oldschoolGrub Killer8016 wrote...
Originally, there was supposed to be a big boss fight with the Illusive Man. He was supposed to turn into a huge Reapers monster and you'd have to kill him. But Bioware, being pushed for time by EA, had to cut this fight. Which is a shame because I was looking forward to another epic final boss.
Yeah. On top of that I believe they didn't want to de-humanise him too much, and thought that the Monster TIM thing would have taken away too much from the fact that TIM's strengths are his personal presence and strength of personality, rather than being physically strong. He's supposed to be an intellectual enemy, not so much a physical one.
Modifié par Dilandau3000, 14 août 2012 - 01:22 .
But actually, you can't. There's a lot you miss when you start at ME3. Some dialog is cut or adapted because it references events from previous games. Several major objectives in the game are unattainable, various minor characters (like Conrad Verner or Kelly Chambers) cannot appear. Most importantly, if you've never actually played ME1/2 before (as opposed to having played them but not transferring the save for some reason) you miss a strong emotional connection to the characters.Terror_K wrote...
I have to say, the fact that you can just jam the final game onto the Wii U without the others illustrates just how meaningless the previous two games really are. ME3 should have been a game that really depended on the other two games.
Modifié par N7 Shadow Liara, 14 août 2012 - 01:55 .
survivor_686 wrote...
Ashley does have longer dialogue with ME1 romanced players...but a bug prevents it from being played.
Dilandau3000 wrote...
100% agreed.
Saren-Husk as a final boss in ME1 was silly. The human proto-reaper in ME2 looked like it was explicitly designed to out-silly that. Having the Illusive Man as a final boss would've been colossally stupid.
Harbinger would've been a better final boss, though I can't see how it would've worked except as another "dodge the lasers, shoot the weak points" sequence.
The boss battle is one thing I'm glad they cut. I do still wish the final mission was more involved, but it doesn't need a boss fight.
Terror_K wrote...
Dilandau3000 wrote...
100% agreed.
Saren-Husk as a final boss in ME1 was silly. The human proto-reaper in ME2 looked like it was explicitly designed to out-silly that. Having the Illusive Man as a final boss would've been colossally stupid.
Harbinger would've been a better final boss, though I can't see how it would've worked except as another "dodge the lasers, shoot the weak points" sequence.
The boss battle is one thing I'm glad they cut. I do still wish the final mission was more involved, but it doesn't need a boss fight.
I personally didn't mind the Saren husk battle, even though it became bliteringly easy if you were an Adept or Vanguard, and even moreso if you also had Liara with you. Having TIM as a half Reaper boss fight would have been awful though. Especially since I already think that Cerberus were overpowered and too much of a factor in ME3 as it is (I get it that they're supposed to be antagonists, but it seemed like they were trying to overthrow The Reapers as the main enemy half the time).
Boss Battles aren't necessary in all of today's games, and in a lot of ways they are one of those things that's survived literally decades of gaming despite the many other factors that were once common in games being gradually filtered out. Today you have to do a boss battle really well and provide more than just a big slab of hit-points that deals loads of damage to succeed at it.
What ME3 could have done was something akin to Deus Ex: Human Revolution. And when I say that I'm not actually talking about the horribly forced boss battles what were outsourced to another studio and that Eidos apologised for and admitted to being shoehorned and bad. What I mean is the conversational moments that almost seemed like boss battles, where Adam Jensen had to convince several major NPCs now and then by choosing the right dialogue choices in the right order. Given ME3's cinematic nature and the fact that TIM is supposed to be more of an intellectual enemy, something like that would actually suit the situation. The only thing is, in ME3 it would probably be hard to implement and keep clear with its rather limited and defined dialogue wheel. Too many players are used to Red and Blue text meaning "win conversation" if selected and available, so to change that up for one or two moments would likely be confusing. It's the restriction and downfall of a dialogue wheel that's established certain moods and intent of the dialogue based on positional design: you can't suddenly break those rules without it being jarring and confusing.
Grub Killer8016 wrote...
Originally, there was supposed to be a big boss fight with the Illusive Man. He was supposed to turn into a huge Reapers monster and you'd have to kill him. But Bioware, being pushed for time by EA, had to cut this fight. Which is a shame because I was looking forward to another epic final boss.
Dilandau3000 wrote...
But actually, you can't. There's a lot you miss when you start at ME3. Some dialog is cut or adapted because it references events from previous games. Several major objectives in the game are unattainable, various minor characters (like Conrad Verner or Kelly Chambers) cannot appear. Most importantly, if you've never actually played ME1/2 before (as opposed to having played them but not transferring the save for some reason) you miss a strong emotional connection to the characters.
I pity the people who started with ME3. They are not nearly getting the full experience.
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