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#126
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DullahansXMark wrote...

I mean, it will be Tuesday. We all know what day balance changes are... except nothing's been talked about on these forums.

What kind of changes do we expect to happen?

not true... people were complaining about biotic/electric slash being op... this was 2 days ago though. electric slash/tc combo may... i say maybe a little silly... but bioslash is not. vanguard needs all the help it can get. if anything, buff number of targets that be hit with bioslash, up base damage about 100 (get it closer to elecslash capability) add 1.5m to base radius and take off 2-3m from base range

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DullahansXMark wrote...

Zenor wrote...

rtbh99 wrote...

harrier damage nerf i hope

No. Bad. Quiet.


Very. Bad. Stand down.


Shhh, just go away

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Father Giliam wrote...

Nitrocuban wrote...

Incisor buff:
Recoil kicks after all 3 shots are on the way


To be realistic, this is impossible. Even if you manage to put all 3 bullets in the barrel at once or 3 different barrels, it would still kick. The closest to what you want would be the 3 barrel option, but for a sniperrifle, itd be stupid to do so. would be incredibly inaccurate at distance, and youd most likely to aim for the chest every shot.

The AN-94 in real life fires two bullets at 1800 RPM so the recoil isn't felt until after the second shot, and this is a fururistic game where the weapons use mass effect fields.

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Father Giliam wrote...

Nitrocuban wrote...

Incisor buff:
Recoil kicks after all 3 shots are on the way


To be realistic, this is impossible. Even if you manage to put all 3 bullets in the barrel at once or 3 different barrels, it would still kick. The closest to what you want would be the 3 barrel option, but for a sniperrifle, itd be stupid to do so. would be incredibly inaccurate at distance, and youd most likely to aim for the chest every shot.


Have you ever heard of "Metal Storm?"...

It has been done already in the 21st century.

It can get off 4 shots I think without recoil.

^_^

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Drummernate wrote...

Father Giliam wrote...

Nitrocuban wrote...

Incisor buff:
Recoil kicks after all 3 shots are on the way


To be realistic, this is impossible. Even if you manage to put all 3 bullets in the barrel at once or 3 different barrels, it would still kick. The closest to what you want would be the 3 barrel option, but for a sniperrifle, itd be stupid to do so. would be incredibly inaccurate at distance, and youd most likely to aim for the chest every shot.


Have you ever heard of "Metal Storm?"...

It has been done already in the 21st century.

It can get off 4 shots I think without recoil.

^_^


 Impossible. The gases will cause recoil. If it contained the gases, the barrel would mushroom or explode. Now unless this uses a stagger system (which it does) the recoil would be huge if it was set off simultaneously. With it being staggered, all it does is reduce the recoil slightly inbetween each shot, which in most semi-autos is negliegeable already.

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Justicar's reave has been decreased to match the Drell Adept's.


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najzere wrote...

Maybe BioWare will surprise everyone and not nerf a single thing.

Lol one can only dream.

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nerf all enemies, so its a buff to everything :D

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I will imagine:
Nerfs to shadow and slayer
Nerfs to indra
Nerfs to the harrier
Piranha nerfed to death
Enemies buffed with a nerf that doesn't work.
Nerf to anything else useful

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Father Giliam wrote...

Drummernate wrote...

Father Giliam wrote...

Nitrocuban wrote...

Incisor buff:
Recoil kicks after all 3 shots are on the way


To be realistic, this is impossible. Even if you manage to put all 3 bullets in the barrel at once or 3 different barrels, it would still kick. The closest to what you want would be the 3 barrel option, but for a sniperrifle, itd be stupid to do so. would be incredibly inaccurate at distance, and youd most likely to aim for the chest every shot.


Have you ever heard of "Metal Storm?"...

It has been done already in the 21st century.

It can get off 4 shots I think without recoil.

^_^


 Impossible. The gases will cause recoil. If it contained the gases, the barrel would mushroom or explode. Now unless this uses a stagger system (which it does) the recoil would be huge if it was set off simultaneously. With it being staggered, all it does is reduce the recoil slightly inbetween each shot, which in most semi-autos is negliegeable already.


Ever hear of the AN-94 Abakan?

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Ahh the two-shot burst mode. Now I want to play STALKER: COP again.

There are still a lot of underpowered classes, abilities and weapons. Concentrating on some of them would be a good idea. In addition to the inevitable second Piranha nerf anyway.

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joker_jack wrote...

I will imagine:
Nerfs to shadow and slayer
Nerfs to indra
Nerfs to the harrier
Piranha nerfed to death
Enemies buffed with a nerf that doesn't work.
Nerf to anything else useful


yeah, with our luck, probable:(

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 Obviously another Piranha nerf because it wasn't done right the first time.  It is still OP

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ryoldschool wrote...

Says somebody who only has the harrier at one.

Wait until they nerf something you enjoy using *cough Typhoon *cough. 

ryoldschool wrote...

That dude is probably jealous, he only has it at one and does not want anyone else to enjoy it.


hahaahha good one guy tell me another

#140
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I suspect a small buff to the Typhoon, possibly a buff to Destroyer ML, and I think they will reduce Piranha damage or RoF.

I think Slashes will be held over for the following week.

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Camarin wrote...

Father Giliam wrote...

Drummernate wrote...

Father Giliam wrote...

Nitrocuban wrote...

Incisor buff:
Recoil kicks after all 3 shots are on the way


To be realistic, this is impossible. Even if you manage to put all 3 bullets in the barrel at once or 3 different barrels, it would still kick. The closest to what you want would be the 3 barrel option, but for a sniperrifle, itd be stupid to do so. would be incredibly inaccurate at distance, and youd most likely to aim for the chest every shot.


Have you ever heard of "Metal Storm?"...

It has been done already in the 21st century.

It can get off 4 shots I think without recoil.

^_^


 Impossible. The gases will cause recoil. If it contained the gases, the barrel would mushroom or explode. Now unless this uses a stagger system (which it does) the recoil would be huge if it was set off simultaneously. With it being staggered, all it does is reduce the recoil slightly inbetween each shot, which in most semi-autos is negliegeable already.


Ever hear of the AN-94 Abakan?


Using the gases to chamber a new round and completely containing the gases without any venting system are completely different things. The AN-94 uses some of the gases from the shot to chamber another round, it does not hold in all the gases. The closest thing you can get to completely containing gases from a round would be using a suppressor, which temporaily contains them to slow down the gases (and the bullet itself) to reduce muzzle flash and noise.

Now that I think about it, to completely contain the gases, you couldnt shoot, as the barrel would be completely sealed.. For a bullet to go, the gases push it out the barrel. To contain the gases completely would make a gun nothing more then a glorified metal stick.

Modifié par Father Giliam, 14 août 2012 - 04:15 .


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 Tomorrow's balance changes...I have a feeling it's that poop again!

Modifié par DJCubed, 14 août 2012 - 03:53 .


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noobz asking for harrier nerf. lol its sad

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whoops :|

Modifié par Father Giliam, 14 août 2012 - 04:14 .


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rtbh99 wrote...

harrier damage nerf i hope

if the harrier gets nerfed i will haunt you for the rest of your life

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kingvenom41392 wrote...

rtbh99 wrote...

harrier damage nerf i hope

if the harrier gets nerfed i will haunt you for the rest of your life


bring it on :D

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Destroyer Missile Launcher buff (namely improved accuracy for the cobra evo. It's complete **** as it currently stands). Hopefully the shield penalty is reduced as well. Seriously, it's starting to get tiring waiting for this buff that obviously has to happen.

Modifié par Felis Menari, 14 août 2012 - 04:44 .


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@Father Giliam:
I can't quote from the phone, but you forget that in mass effect there are no gasses propelling the round.
And even then there would still be recoil due to the laws of physics.

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ExpiredLifetime wrote...

@Father Giliam:
I can't quote from the phone, but you forget that in mass effect there are no gasses propelling the round.
And even then there would still be recoil due to the laws of physics.


I already stated that something replaces the recoil from the gases, however I do not know what it is.

EDIT: Looked it up. Mass Accelerators produce recoil equal to the impact force of the bullet.

Modifié par Father Giliam, 14 août 2012 - 04:58 .


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weapon damage bonuses , 1% lvl 1, .5%, level 2, 1.5% lvl 6. Buffed.......

Coming - All weapons, down 99% to fall in line with the new nerf gun coming in the 'we nerfed this game into obscurity...' dlc, which drops every day from now til borderlands II comes out at which point the game will no longer be significant. Unfortunately --

Way to ruin a great game Bioware. It was just fine on release ( except for possibly some bugs...) and this constant 'balancing' is HATED by everyone I play with. Not to mention the ridiculous bugs and problems that NEED fixing --- especially since that last 'server maintenance....'

My opinion...I love this game and hate to see it constantly ruined.