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[ElementL09]

Word of mouth the ending sucks, could have contributed a bit to why people haven't completed the game, even though its the most accessible of the series.

[thefallen2far]

I'm probably part of that 58%. I didn't beat it, I got to the kid, critical mision failured trying to kill the kid and tried to limp my way away from the death machine, then youtubed the endings. There was no incentive for me to play the endings, so I just put it away and check back with the bords for updates.

[chemiclord]

ElementL09 wrote...

Word of mouth the ending sucks, could have contributed a bit to why people haven't completed the game, even though its the most accessible of the series.

Then how, pray tell, do you explain it having a higher completion rate than ME1?

Or are you saying ME1's ending is even WORSE?

[chemiclord]

More that they are trying to prove that the endings were a crippling blow to the series.

Simple fact of the matter... it wasn't THAT big of a deal to the general player base at large. The majority never saw it... just like most games, for that matter.

Modifié par chemiclord, 15 août 2012 - 02:55 .

[PsyrenY]

RShara wrote...

They probably heard how bad it was and turned off their games after the speech with Anderson.

By your own (poor) logic, ME1 really sucked.

[RukiaKuchki]

thefallen2far wrote...

I'm probably part of that 58%. I didn't beat it, I got to the kid, critical mision failured trying to kill the kid and tried to limp my way away from the death machine, then youtubed the endings. There was no incentive for me to play the endings, so I just put it away and check back with the bords for updates.

So you got within 2 minutes of finishing....and instead of finishing and watching the cutscenes...you decided to look it up on youtube? Really? Seriously? You were soooo depressed about the whole thing that you decided to sit and watch it anyway, on a relatively small, poor quality video feed? You hadn't seen it and hadn't had the opportunity to evaluate the ending for yourself, but instead of making up your own mind you decided to go with 'the opinion on the internet'? Wow. Just...wow. 

I'm loving the way that the fundamentalists here are assuming most people (Do we have a poll yet? Are the cupcakes in the oven?) stopped immediately after the grand reveal on the Citadel...highly reasoned thinking! Again...most people don't finish most games. Millions of reasons, but as the BSN has so eloquently demonstrated...gamers are fickle and their attention is easily diverted.

[Balmung31]

Curiosity about how bad it was probably contributed to the percentage. There was word out even before the game was released about how bad the ending was, so it started spreading pretty quickly.

Don't think you could say that about ME2 or even 1.

[GennadiosMxms]

It had nothing to do with word of mouth. 60% of players don't usually beat the game they purchase. It's an industry standard

[Balmung31]

GennadiosMxms wrote...

It had nothing to do with word of mouth. 60% of players don't usually beat the game they purchase. It's an industry standard

As people have been saying, this is actually a pretty high percentage for a game.  I'm saying part of it was morbid curiosity about the ending.  No way it wasn't a factor. 

[thefallen2far]

RukiaKuchki wrote...So you got within 2 minutes of finishing....and instead of finishing and watching the cutscenes...you decided to look it up on youtube? Really? Seriously? You were soooo depressed about the whole thing that you decided to sit and watch it anyway, on a relatively small, poor quality video feed? You hadn't seen it and hadn't had the opportunity to evaluate the ending for yourself, but instead of making up your own mind you decided to go with 'the opinion on the internet'? Wow. Just...wow.

Comprehension isn't your strong suit. I wasn't depressed about the ending, I thought it was stupid. I literaly thought I did something wrong in the dialoge option. So I tried shooting the kid, then I tried to get away from the device to see if there was something else I missed. Then there was a "critical mission" screen. I wanted to find out what the endings were, so I youtubed the ending. Now, this is where you think I was influenced by the "internet". I watched all the endings. I came to the conclusion the endings sucked myself. I didn't read comments, I didn't visit these forums, I watched the endings themselves. Now, if you think the "quality" of the videofeed inhibited the quality of the ending, you're fooling yourself in the substance of the ending. I watched a youtube stick figure spoof ending.... I got more enjoyment out of that. Also the Hitler spoof. That was hilarious. Since watching the endings on youtube, I have no desire or incentive to spend that time to go back and play the endng on the game.

I'm loving the way that the fundamentalists here are assuming most people (Do we have a poll yet? Are the cupcakes in the oven?) stopped immediately after the grand reveal on the Citadel...highly reasoned thinking! Again..d.most people don't finish most games. Millions of reasons, but as the BSN has so eloquently demonstrated...gamers are fickle and their attention is easily diverted.

Technically, you're the fundamentalist. The fundamentalist is the one who believes in the fundamental and uncontested interpretation of what is presented in written. So the person that is defending the ending is the fundementalist. Case in point, if someone says they don't like the bible, and they said they heard the audiobook version as read by Charles Eston. The Fundementalist would disavow the opinion of the method of getting the storyi inseae of acknowledge that they just didn't like it.

Modifié par thefallen2far, 15 août 2012 - 03:57 .

[Deemz]

RShara wrote...

They probably heard how bad it was and turned off their games after the speech with Anderson.

This is really where the game should have ended.

[SpamBot2000]

I wonder if that 42% counts every "completion", pre- and post-EC, against games started. Because that would certainly inflate the completion figures.

[babachewie]

thefallen2far wrote...

I'm probably part of that 58%. I didn't beat it, I got to the kid, critical mision failured trying to kill the kid and tried to limp my way away from the death machine, then youtubed the endings. There was no incentive for me to play the endings, so I just put it away and check back with the bords for updates.

hahaha! what a loser. You cant even beat the game and see the ending cause your weak whittle bwain couldnt handle it. Awww poor baby. You dont even deserve to play as character like Shepard. A character that faces there fears and overcomes adversity. 

[PinkysPain]

I'm waiting for the good ending.

[AlexMBrennan]

hahaha! what a loser. You cant even beat the game and see the ending cause your weak whittle bwain couldnt handle it.

Wow, your intelligence and wit is truly dazzling.

Fact is: You cannot save during Priority: Earth. Retrying would have required repeating the endless long walk, boring turret defence interruption, etc, just to get an ending he had already seen.

Arguably, it's you that has the problem here - thinking that setting some flag in a video game you don't like is worth your time.

[Torrible]

AlexMBrennan wrote...

hahaha! what a loser. You cant even beat the game and see the ending cause your weak whittle bwain couldnt handle it.

Wow, your intelligence and wit is truly dazzling.

Fact is: You cannot save during Priority: Earth. Retrying would have required repeating the endless long walk, boring turret defence interruption, etc, just to get an ending he had already seen.

Arguably, it's you that has the problem here - thinking that setting some flag in a video game you don't like is worth your time.

Just after talking to the Catalyst, the game autosaves. He talked about getting a critical mission failure because he refused to commit to any of the 3 choices. That tells me that the new autosave file should have already been created. All he needed to do was 'reload the autosave' or simply 'continue'. There was no need to replay any part of the game prior to that.

Tips for those playing on PC: Once the autosave is made, go the the save folder and copy/paste the autosave file into a new folder. After experiencing the Synthesis ending (for example), copy and overwrite the autosave file back into the save folder, reload the autosave and you can immediately choose another ending without having to play the Priority: Earth mission again.

Modifié par Torrible, 15 août 2012 - 07:51 .

[clarkusdarkus]

id love to know the % of those that replayed the game as im still at 1 playthrough

[7he Island Head]

This thread got me banned for 2 days :'(

[AlanC9]

7he Island Head wrote...

This thread got me banned for 2 days :'(

What, you were trying for a week?

[7he Island Head]

AlanC9 wrote...

7he Island Head wrote...

This thread got me banned for 2 days :'(

What, you were trying for a week?

No, all I did was post a pick of an orangutan, and said Bioware should replace Casey Hudson with him
I didn't really mean it.

I learned my lesson, and I will never say anything about Mr. Hudson ever again. I promise!

Modifié par 7he Island Head, 15 août 2012 - 11:46 .

[thefallen2far]

Torrible wrote...
Just after talking to the Catalyst, the game autosaves. He talked about getting a critical mission failure because he refused to commit to any of the 3 choices. That tells me that the new autosave file should have already been created. All he needed to do was 'reload the autosave' or simply 'continue'. There was no need to replay any part of the game prior to that.

Question still remains... why? What would be the point? The ending isn't good, or even well done. There's no challenging boss to try and beat. there's nothing to dicover or unlock. There's no real character. Moments determind by my actions throughout the game. No choices I care to explore...it's just a badly contrived ending that's just a waste of time.

Now, i'd have to rebuy a copy of the game, which would be a financial loss as I sold my CE copy to pay for Dragon's Dogma. [Ironically, I beat that game.] So if someone is so irked by me not having any interest in beating it, if you want to send me your copy so i'll do it, plus a 5 dollar retainer for the service, I'll be more than happy to oblige. As is, I have no desire to bother with it. If they change the ending, I might have a desire to do so, but I saw the series finale of Battlestar Galactica and Lost, I saw Godfather and Spiderman 3, I saw the Star Wars prequels and I saw the Matrix sequels... I have no desire to experience any of them again, why woul I buck that trend by torturing myself with the Catalysts' nonsense?

Modifié par thefallen2far, 15 août 2012 - 11:51 .

[thefallen2far]

babachewie wrote...
hahaha! what a loser. You cant even beat the game and see the ending cause your weak whittle bwain couldnt handle it. Awww poor baby. You dont even deserve to play as character like Shepard. A character that faces there fears and overcomes adversity.

My weak "whittle bwain"? Do you usually make short unsubstantiated assertions in an attempt to belittle opposing arguements? That's a shame. I'm sre you ould come up with a logical arguement without your insecurity in your stance coming out. As for a "character that faces 'their' fears", I didn't see that in the ending. I saw a character that rolled over and died, couldn't overcome anything and conceded to an enemy that caused thousands of genocides. Technically, that's the opposite of "overcoming adversity".

It's not a psych evaluation, it's a video game with a bad ending.

Modifié par thefallen2far, 16 août 2012 - 12:13 .

[Nicsienieda]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

I bet all the people who didn't finish DA:O stopped at The Fade.

OMG I did actually.

[RukiaKuchki]

thefallen2far wrote...

RukiaKuchki wrote...So you got within 2 minutes of finishing....and instead of finishing and watching the cutscenes...you decided to look it up on youtube? Really? Seriously? You were soooo depressed about the whole thing that you decided to sit and watch it anyway, on a relatively small, poor quality video feed? You hadn't seen it and hadn't had the opportunity to evaluate the ending for yourself, but instead of making up your own mind you decided to go with 'the opinion on the internet'? Wow. Just...wow.

Comprehension isn't your strong suit. I wasn't depressed about the ending, I thought it was stupid. I literaly thought I did something wrong in the dialoge option. So I tried shooting the kid, then I tried to get away from the device to see if there was something else I missed. Then there was a "critical mission" screen. I wanted to find out what the endings were, so I youtubed the ending. Now, this is where you think I was influenced by the "internet". I watched all the endings. I came to the conclusion the endings sucked myself. I didn't read comments, I didn't visit these forums, I watched the endings themselves. Now, if you think the "quality" of the videofeed inhibited the quality of the ending, you're fooling yourself in the substance of the ending. I watched a youtube stick figure spoof ending.... I got more enjoyment out of that. Also the Hitler spoof. That was hilarious. Since watching the endings on youtube, I have no desire or incentive to spend that time to go back and play the endng on the game.

I'm loving the way that the fundamentalists here are assuming most people (Do we have a poll yet? Are the cupcakes in the oven?) stopped immediately after the grand reveal on the Citadel...highly reasoned thinking! Again..d.most people don't finish most games. Millions of reasons, but as the BSN has so eloquently demonstrated...gamers are fickle and their attention is easily diverted.

Technically, you're the fundamentalist. The fundamentalist is the one who believes in the fundamental and uncontested interpretation of what is presented in written. So the person that is defending the ending is the fundementalist. Case in point, if someone says they don't like the bible, and they said they heard the audiobook version as read by Charles Eston. The Fundementalist would disavow the opinion of the method of getting the storyi inseae of acknowledge that they just didn't like it.

Who says I am defending the ending? Comprehension isn't your strong point, is it? I am commenting on the disingenuous link between the quality of the ending and the fact that the vast majority of people didn't finish the game. Most people don't finish most games. I wonder how many times this has to be stated before it sinks in? High-five for you though for coming to the completely independant, critical conclusion that the ending 'sucked'. Also, I am impressed at the fact that you researched the meaning of the term fundamentalist. The internet is a teaching tool afterall!