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7he Island Head wrote...

 I was gonna make a troll thread but this article will be just as fun to share!

http://www.gameinfor...d-the-game.aspx

Saving Earth and stopping the Reapers didn't seem appealing for most gamers it seems. In its five months since release, BioWare says 42 percent of players actually finished Mass Effect 3.



No wonder so many people aren't mad at Bioware! They didn't even see star kid!

Well, I'd rather assume that 58% of the people never experienced the ending first hand, but just jumped on the bandwagon to get it changed anyway.

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robertthebard wrote...

Lionel Ou wrote...

robertthebard wrote...

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robertthebard wrote...

You actually trolled yourself pretty well.  Gratz, I don't see that happen very often.  Nice cherry pick on the article hoping others wouldn't follow the link though:

Saving Earth and stopping the Reapers didn't seem appealing for most gamers it seems. In its five months since release, BioWare says 42 percent of players actually finished Mass Effect 3.


Yes, it couldn't possibly be that the controversy made people curious enough to play the game to the end, instead of getting tired half way through.

It could very well be.  However, this doesn't compute with what the OP thought he/she was providing, proof that the game sucked so bad that 58% of the players didn't finish it.  Imagine their shock and surprise to find out that more people finished it than DA:  O, which I find hard to believe, considering how many times I've finished that compared to all three ME games combined...Image IPB


What, you didn't read the first line and the second post? :P

From what I can recall, you can't import save games from DA to DA2? So much less incentive to run through it again, really.

What?  You didn't create any characters in DA 2?  You most certainly can import saves, you just can't import your Warden. 

No, never played DA2. I got bored of fantasy RPGs in general, so eh, not worth it really. Couldn't remember if you could or couldn't import to DA2.

Regarding reading any of the OP's other posts, no, I didn't, there's really no need.  It's clear that it's just more "Let's bash something different about ME 3 today", only the OP made a mistake about what to bash.  Did he post a retraction?  That would be worth reading.


I was gonna make a troll thread (...)

Hmm...looks like you successfully created a troll thread.


Yeah, seems like it was quite a successful troll thread.

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These figures don't mean that most gamers don't finish the game. The figures aren't tracked by individual player.


Where did you get that idea?


What I mean is that it doesn't track how many individual registered games completed one play through.  It tracks how many games were completed.  If 10 players start a game and 8 complete it.  That gives an 80% completion rate.  If those 8 then start a new gane and only 4 complete that second game, that makes the completion rate around 66%.  That doesn't mean only 66% of individual players finished the game, it means that 66% of games started were completed.  80% of gamers finished the game, but the the completion rate will be much lower.

Actually, Bioware does track this stuff on an individual basis. Last year they presented numbers about how many players had multiple playthroughs for ME2, remember?

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Lionel Ou wrote...

robertthebard wrote...

Lionel Ou wrote...

robertthebard wrote...

Lionel Ou wrote...

robertthebard wrote...

You actually trolled yourself pretty well.  Gratz, I don't see that happen very often.  Nice cherry pick on the article hoping others wouldn't follow the link though:

Saving Earth and stopping the Reapers didn't seem appealing for most gamers it seems. In its five months since release, BioWare says 42 percent of players actually finished Mass Effect 3.


Yes, it couldn't possibly be that the controversy made people curious enough to play the game to the end, instead of getting tired half way through.

It could very well be.  However, this doesn't compute with what the OP thought he/she was providing, proof that the game sucked so bad that 58% of the players didn't finish it.  Imagine their shock and surprise to find out that more people finished it than DA:  O, which I find hard to believe, considering how many times I've finished that compared to all three ME games combined...Image IPB


What, you didn't read the first line and the second post? :P

From what I can recall, you can't import save games from DA to DA2? So much less incentive to run through it again, really.

What?  You didn't create any characters in DA 2?  You most certainly can import saves, you just can't import your Warden. 

No, never played DA2. I got bored of fantasy RPGs in general, so eh, not worth it really. Couldn't remember if you could or couldn't import to DA2.

Regarding reading any of the OP's other posts, no, I didn't, there's really no need.  It's clear that it's just more "Let's bash something different about ME 3 today", only the OP made a mistake about what to bash.  Did he post a retraction?  That would be worth reading.



I was gonna make a troll thread (...)

Hmm...looks like you successfully created a troll thread.


Yeah, seems like it was quite a successful troll thread.

After reading his linked article, and the one provided by AFW, it's obvious he trolled himself rather well.

Save imports in Dragon Age work differently than here, since the stories start out running at the same time.  For people that don't have saves, it has a few stock options to pick from, and gibbed made a DA O save creator so you could get the results you wanted if they weren't represented.

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Wow, that's a heck of a lot more gamers who finished the game than reviewers.

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This means that if you hate or love the ending, you are still the vocal minority.

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Thaa_solon wrote...

How to put it in way you can comprehend.....

If alot of people like the same game, then a fanbase established
Let say a game continues it's story, then a series is established
The game loving community should complete each sucsession of a game with higher percentage, well since they enjoy the storytelling or gameplay.

However when word gets out that the potentially last game doesn't deliver, then the completion number in percentage plummits to simular numbers like when the franchise is established or perhaps even lower.


Except that it generally works the exact OPPOSITE.

A lot of people buy a game; fanbase established.
Second game is produced; some of that fanbase doesn't like it... less completion.
Third game is produced; some of the remaining fanbase doesn't like it... still less completion.

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AsheraII wrote...

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ChookAttack wrote...

These figures don't mean that most gamers don't finish the game. The figures aren't tracked by individual player.


Where did you get that idea?


What I mean is that it doesn't track how many individual registered games completed one play through.  It tracks how many games were completed.  If 10 players start a game and 8 complete it.  That gives an 80% completion rate.  If those 8 then start a new gane and only 4 complete that second game, that makes the completion rate around 66%.  That doesn't mean only 66% of individual players finished the game, it means that 66% of games started were completed.  80% of gamers finished the game, but the the completion rate will be much lower.

Actually, Bioware does track this stuff on an individual basis. Last year they presented numbers about how many players had multiple playthroughs for ME2, remember?


Yeah, I remember.  I know they have those numbers, but from the article it seems they aren't talking about that set of numbers.  They mention how ME2's numbers rose due to the soon to be released ME3 and players readying their Sheps for the new game.  That means they aren't figures for how many individual registered users finished the game, but how many total game starts were completed, including people who played more than once but didn't finish their subsequent playthoughs.

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I bet all the people who didn't finish DA:O stopped at The Fade.

Why do you think so? I loved the fade.


You do?
Personally I always install the "Skip the Fade" mod :happy:

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Yeah, I remember.  I know they have those numbers, but from the article it seems they aren't talking about that set of numbers.  They mention how ME2's numbers rose due to the soon to be released ME3 and players readying their Sheps for the new game.  That means they aren't figures for how many individual registered users finished the game, but how many total game starts were completed, including people who played more than once but didn't finish their subsequent playthoughs.


Hmm.. thing is, they can't not know which particular players those saves belong to. The achievement data is tied to your profile, since it's cumulative for all your saves.Any other data would also be tagged; no way they'd just throw that info out. It's weird, yep, but he's saying that a lot of players didn't finish ME2 at all until ME3 was imminent.

Does he actually mean what he's saying? Beats me.

Modifié par AlanC9, 14 août 2012 - 02:53 .


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So? Only 10 percent of people completed red dead redemption, does this make it a bad game? Should it matter how many people completed the game or not?

Many here would agree that red dead redemption was a better game than ME3, at least ending wise, and less people completed it than ME3, what does that tell you.

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This is not surprising. They're spared from the ending. I don't think most people finish games.

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xsdob wrote...
Many here would agree that red dead redemption was a better game than ME3, at least ending wise, and less people completed it than ME3, what does that tell you.


That RDR was too long?

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Cant believe how few people actually finish games.

This is mindblowing to me.

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I love Skyrim, but I've never finished it. I just find myself starting over all the time with new characters trying different things.

I've never finished ME3 either. But for completely different reasons...

So I don't think that a low percentage of finished playthroughs necessarily is a indication that people didn't like the game.

Modifié par anorling, 14 août 2012 - 03:17 .


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RDR is a bit different. It's easy to get sidetracked and spend countless hours doing other things than the main story.


Wonder how many people finished Skyrim (aside from the radial quests)

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That's what you get for ruining the ending BioWare. Next time, do a happy ending!Image IPB

Modifié par DrwEddy, 14 août 2012 - 03:20 .


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DrwEddy wrote...

That's what you get for ruining the ending BioWare. Next time, do a happy decent ending!Image IPB


Fixed

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Yeah, I remember.  I know they have those numbers, but from the article it seems they aren't talking about that set of numbers.  They mention how ME2's numbers rose due to the soon to be released ME3 and players readying their Sheps for the new game.  That means they aren't figures for how many individual registered users finished the game, but how many total game starts were completed, including people who played more than once but didn't finish their subsequent playthoughs.


Hmm.. thing is, they can't not know which particular players those saves belong to. The achievement data is tied to your profile, since it's cumulative for all your saves.Any other data would also be tagged; no way they'd just throw that info out. It's weird, yep, but he's saying that a lot of players didn't finish ME2 at all until ME3 was imminent.

Does he actually mean what he's saying? Beats me.


I agree.  They can't not know which particular players those saves belong to.  The thing is, though, that statistics can be manipulated to show anything you want and Bioware can utilise those statistics in any number of ways.  Without seeing the actual talk that Mr. Melo gave we can't know what point he was trying to reinforce with those numbers.  My opinion is that the gaming sites are cherry picking from his talk in an attempt to get hits on their sites with these headlines.

If you look at the Eurogamer article the GameInformer article was based on, Mr. Melo seems to be using the numbers to talk about longevity of player interest in the game, which supports the opinion that the numbers aren't just how many players completed the game, but how many playthroughs were completed, including multiple playthroughs.

From Eurogamer:

So too was the game's multiplayer co-op mode, designed to keep people
interested in the game longer. But while more people in general play
Mass Effect 3 than its predecessor due to its online option, the length
of time that people kept playing the game has remained about the same,
Melo explained


Modifié par ChookAttack, 14 août 2012 - 03:31 .


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I know a few ppl who got the game and got bored playing it in truth, as they didnt like the linear aspect of it when they bought it expecting an rpg similar to ME2, ahh well i did it once and once only............


I know a few people who got bored with ME3 and didn't complete it as well, but they're all primarily shooter fans. They played it for a couple weeks (mostly multiplayer) before drifting back to Call of Duty.

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Why on earth would anyone buy a game and not finish it... Seems like a huge waist of money

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I'd like to see data for the number of people who completed only one playthrough and the number who completed multiple. A lot of people don't finish games, so how many people who did and then walked away is much more telling.

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Warp92 wrote...

Why on earth would anyone buy a game and not finish it... Seems like a huge waist of money


I've done that quite a few times.

I bought a game I thought I would like, but midway through it I got bored with it. In the meantime I stumbled across something else I enjoyed more, and put down the old for the new.

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Han Shot First wrote...

Warp92 wrote...

Why on earth would anyone buy a game and not finish it... Seems like a huge waist of money


I've done that quite a few times.

I bought a game I thought I would like, but midway through it I got bored with it. In the meantime I stumbled across something else I enjoyed more, and put down the old for the new.


To be honest if it hadn't been ME3 with all the Trilogy waiting then this would have been my view. There were and are more enjoyable games than ME3 but I finished it once because it was ME3. If I had been a new player I would have stopped playing before the ending.

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maaaze wrote...

much higher than regular games

http://www.gameinfor...nish-games.aspx


Well said. OP mass effect 3 had more people finish the ending than most games do.
Thanks for the link