Isichar wrote...
Pitznik wrote...
Isichar wrote...
The reapers are no longer a long term threat regardless of what you do at this point though. As I said earlier in this thread the reapers proved they could not properly complete a cycle when information from different cycles began to get passed down.
Of course they are a threat. They can do a better job at harvesting, that is all. Galaxy is huge as hell, but 50,000 is a long time. Also, what does even mean "long term threat"? I don't want to destroy the Reapers to have them gone, I want to destroy the Reapers to protect what I care about - my galaxy, my Alliance, my Earth, my people. Even if the next cycle could eventually win (and I have nothing to base it on), I don't really care. I don't have any cosmic goals like the Catalyst, I have very real, immediate goal.
When I say longterm I mean the Reaper threat is not a viable solution even by the Catalysts standards. It realizes this when Shepard activates the Crucible although I believe this began long before the cycle even started. The Catalyst realizes this and uses the crucible as its saving throw, it is even honest about that. It basically tells you it has killed trillions for a cause that it can not even sustain. Just think of the amount of people that suffered due to the catalysts goals and actions, even moreso then the problem he was trying to fixed ever could and then you are given the chance to justify its existence by firing the crucible. All the crucible options fit with his goals, you know theres a risk to even firing the crucible but your willing to take it still. For me that risk is much, much greater and not a path I will knowingly walk down.
Did it stop it from allowing the harvesting to continue? No? Why not? If it knows it's no longer a viable solution, why doesn't it just self terminate?
To address your earlier question, our current dilemma is the result of the Catalyst doing what it thought was best to resolve it's little problem. That sure worked out well for us, now didn't it? According to you, it's not even working out very well for it any more. So what would give me the idea that doing what it wants now is going to work out any differently, if I'm going to look at a long term solution, instead of the rather immediate clear and present danger? In fact, why does his problem trump my problem? I have no idea who his people are, or were, beyond the Reapers, and they are currently in the process of harvesting my cycle. This is my dilemma, not whether synthetics and organics will fight.
What about the fact that there could very well be no Geth to consider? It doesn't fit into a nice tidy envelope now. Instead, it's one person versus everyone that's still alive. Since the topic of this thread is Refusal, one would choose Refusal over Destroy to save one life, that won't be saved anyway? As I have already indicated, looking at the galaxy map when I go to Earth for the final battles, the entire galaxy is Reaperville, as somebody else put it. We know that we are losing colonies faster than we can evacuate them prior to this, and now, since we're focusing on delivering the weapon that's supposed to end the fight once and for all, most resistance on other fronts is minimal at best. I have no reason to believe anything other than we're going to lose if we don't stop them. I have the means to stop them, and I Refuse. Yeah, that's a logical choice to make. So no, there is no doubt in my mind, destroying the Reapers ends the threat, once and for all, and is the right call. The galaxy's leaders put me in charge, whether I wanted it or not, and have indicated to me that it needs to be done, by any means necessary. Sorry Geth, if you're here, and I'm really sorry EDI, it was fun watching you grow, but...
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