Isichar wrote...
Dharvy wrote...
If you're refusing because of ignorance and distrust I can understand that. If you're saying I couldn't trust the catalyst and I didn't know what would happened and I didn't want to make a mistake and speed up the reaping and I thought it was some kind of elaborate trap I can understand that line of thinking. I can understand refuse based on them thoughts.
But the simple fact is we are all fighting a hopeless battle in that we are all going to die and we can only choose how we are going to die, fighting, running, or lying down. The Crucible is glimmer of hope that'll we make it out of this battle alive. Scared maybe, dirty maybe, damaged maybe, but alive. Do you go down the path of hope? Well you built the thing so you're at least making it reality choice.
Now onto what the catalyst wants. Its already reaping, and its been doing it for thousands of cycles. Now it specifically tells you that if you refuse the cycle would continue. Now since its been reaping for all these years I guess reaping is also what it wants to a certain degree. So you effectively have 4 options that the catalyst wants and now you just must choose what do you want?
So I ask you, what do you want? And what are you willing to sacrifice to get it?
I want what is best for the galaxy. Not best for just organics, synthetics, the catalyst, Shepard or any specific group or person, but what is best for the growth of the galaxy as a whole, this is something worth sacrificing an entire cycle for.
Yes I know that sounds absolutely crazy, and I will do my best to explain (Although there are others who can and have worded it much better then me)
Life continues with or without the reapers interaction, and it is always changing. The reapers are like a child stuck on the final fight of a game without any chance to win, they just click reload over and over again and change nothing, their existance alone impedes on the natural evolution of the galaxy in every possible way, and has caused nothing but suffering for both organics and synthetics. Its solution was terrible, no other way to put it. And once the reapers are gone, the problem it was created to fix will still exist, unchanged.
Now it has a new solution, and asks you to choose between sacrificing yourself, or your allys for a cause I don't even agree with, and it uses my motives to do so. To the catalyst even his own destruction and the ability to continue on with our cycles lives is nothing more then a means to an end. And as I have said earlier his goals go beyond simply disagreeing with. It would rather make the universe a static place then risk the chance that synthetics and organics may end up killing each other, and even believes that a husk is a higher form of life despite having no free will.
Others say it is worth the risk to stop the threat, but the reaper threat goes beyond trying to save one specific cycle or group of people for me. If Sacrificing one cycle meant the next would have a chance, and the galaxy would be a better place for it then my Shepard would have done so (and did)
Its not a fun choice to be made but it is one I feel is important. The Catalyst is a poison to the galaxy, its goals are imposed on the natural evolution and because of it there has been more suffering then the problem it was trying to stop could ever cause. And it does not feel sympathy or regret for it, even at the end of its own cycle, it will stay true to the same goal and motivation that led to the start of the cycles.
For me I see the reaper cycle failing before mass effect 1 even started, and I wanted it to fail, not only because I personally don't agree with it, but because it must fail. The crucible may stop the reapers, you may be aloud to continue your lives and eat those yummy grilled cheese sandwiches but you did exactly what the catalyst did, you imposed your will on something that should not have been messed with in the first place. An action can't simply be judged by the immediate effects it has on the people around you, theres more to it then that.
I look at the reapers entire existance, the effect they have had on the galaxy and believe that anything that fits in line with those goals, will only end up causing the same thing.
I want the galaxy to move forward without the influence of the reapers, and you already know what I will sacrifice for that.
You know what, I love this response. And you know why because though you hate or dislike or disagree with the catalyst you have essentially became it or aligned your thinking alongside it so parrellel that if you just look to the side instead of forward you just may see it alongside you.
Let ty to explain. You see, the catalyst in its own way wants
what is best for the growth of the galaxy as a whole, this is something worth sacrificing an entire cycle for.
That is why its reaping because it feels that the inevitable synthetic conflict is not good for the continued growth of the galaxy if it ends in organics being extinct.
Now you mention its new solutions. Are you not willing to sacrifice this entire cycle, (refuse, your solution to the cycle) a means to and end where the galaxy will some how get to some point where the reapers no longer have influence? Now if the next couple of cycles don't use the crucible, it may well be a fierce battle with many casualties and the end result may not be any better than the casualties or influence or scarring this cycles entails with just doing something as horrific as destroy.
You see the reality is there's no getting away from the reapers influence this cycle or the next. A cycle have to first defeat the reapers and are therefore subjugated to its influence before its able continue. You're are essentially doing the same thing its doing playing "final fight of a game without any chance to win, they just click reload over and over again and change nothing," you're changing nothing, the influence continues, the scarring continues, the damage continues, the deaths continue, you just effectively hit the reload button. The only thing is you can't hit it again because youre gone.
So I ask another question what is your hope for the next cycle against the reapers that would make them a more viable cycle to continue once the Reapers are defeated versus this one?
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