[quote]cuzIMgood wrote...
Adding protheans is just unnecessary. I would much rather see some new game modes over a few new chars/weapons to keep doing the same thing.[/quote]
Considering how fast this MP dies without DLC to keep players enticed, new content is necessary to keep it relevant. New content that the fans want would satisfy the demand and a large portion of the fans want Protheans. If there is a demand for something, there is a market. Also, there's nothing here that says that DLC is limited to characters and weapons (and maps, objectives and equipment as you apparently decided to leave out). New game modes are definitely something that the community wants. However, that is not the topic of discussion for this thread. This thread is focused on proving that Protheans can be lore-friendly. If you want to discuss new game modes, join another thread or start your own.
[quote]corporal doody wrote...
oh Father Superior....your walls of text....
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage. And then is heard no more: it is a tale. Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
i dont want Protheans in ME3MP.
as a bonus character in a future ME MP game..okay. aint jack anyone can say to change my mind.
inb4whocareswhatyouthink.... cuz if you didnt care you wouldnt resort to essays.
edit...and by WIT....i mean wit...your attempts at being witty.
Wit is a form of intellectual humor, and is the ability to say or write things that are clever and usually funny.
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I post large replies because I am doing what is required in order to rationally debate; I am addressing the entirety of your responses. If I didn't, I would be forced to overlook details presented by the opposition and I would make my argument invalid, something that you seem very good at doing.
I truly do not understand where your arrogance stems from. You've proved nothing in all of your replies, you haven't even attempted to intelligently present a counter-argument (at least I hope that what you've posted is not considered intelligent in your mind, if this is the case then I pity you), yet you seem to think that you're the victor. If I was not entirely sure of your nature as a troll, it would be truly puzzling for someone with a name like "corporal doody" to act condescending towards others. It is also the reason why I do not take any offense to your personal attack towards me, calling me an "idiot" telling a "tale full of sound and fury without meaning". Not only can any intelligent and rational person who reads this thread tell that I am not the idiot in this situation, but they could tell that you are also trying to use poetic speech and needless fluff to try to create the illusion that you are some kind of intellectual. You are a failure as a troll and as a human being. If I could make a single wish for the universe, it would be for you to be struck with sterility to ensure that your seed is never passed on, so your inferior genetics would be left behind and humanity could continue to progress with one less hindrance.
Only a troll would be able to post something as ignorant as your post. You have neglected the point of the entire thread. This is not about changing your opinion, nor the opinion of anyone else. It is about proving that Protheans can be lore-friendly. It doesn't matter whether you are in favor of them or not, it has been made incredibly clear that Protheans are indeed eligible to be put into the MP without breaking lore. Being stubborn won't change that. If you decide that Protheans being added in doesn't seem likely in your mind, big deal. Bioware controls the story and there are plenty of things that we wouldn't believe without them telling us to do so. As far as we know, traveling faster than the speed of light is impossible, but Bioware told us to believe it and we did. If you don't find Protheans being brought into MP possible and Bioware says they can, who is to be believed? Is it the whiny troll fan-boy or the creators of the story and the lead authorities on what is and is not possible in the Mass Effect universe?
The reason I even bothered to respond to you in the first place, which I now realize was a mistake and a monumental waste of time, was because you didn't seem to understand that irrationality does not make you correct. I suffer from arachniphobia to a degree; it manifests itself as a mental image of large spiders crawling on me everytime I close my eyes while my head rests upon my pillow. I do not live in an area that can support the life of spiders any bigger than what causes me great distress (anything bigger than my shoe that won't die from a single stomp), yet I am fearful regardless. This does not make my fear justified. In the same way you pigheadedly will not accept the idea of Protheans in MP, I will not accept the fact that I will never experience the hypothetical phenomenon that fills me with fear. The difference is, I admit that my fear is irrational and will never become a real issue for me. You refuse to see that Protheans are lore-friendly in the right circumstances. If you don't want Protheans, that's fine. But to say that they're impossible because of some irrational thought inside your head is just plain wrong.
You sure do have poor grammar/typing skills. To randomly type a very short word in all caps is just begging for someone to mistake it for an acronym, especially when said acronym could apply to a previous section of your post. For situations exactly like that, we are given the options to bold, italicize, and underline our words foremphasis. On top of being unable to foresee possible places to get lost in translation, you also tried to sneak in a little passive-aggressive "joke" at the end there. I am not here to entertain you; my goal is not to make you laugh, but to make you see why your argument is flawed and, therefore, invalid. If I decide to throw in a little humor here and there, I do it in order to show that I am not some kind of hardcore lore-buff, I am just a fledgling Mass Effect fan who can show you why your hate for Protheans is completely unreasonable. Without the humor, I would give off the illusion of being some kind of heavy researcher that has studied this topic for months on end to prepare for a topic on a discussion forum, but I'm not. I'm just a fan who payed attention to the games and is tired of misinformed bigots falsely claiming to be the main authorities on the Mass Effect universe. And by the way, don't go insulting the comedic ability of others without evidence and some comedic talent of your own.
[quote]Zardoc wrote...
Scumbag xSNPx ZoDiaC...claiming he has a lore friendly way of putting protheans into MP...doesn't have a lore friendly way of putting protheans into MP.
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nowhere does it say that javik is the last prothean [/quote]
Erm...you have played the game, right?
[quote]eden prime was not meant for stasis, yet a prothean lived. what about a facility that ]was [/color]meant for stasis? [/quote]
It was. And if Eden Prime ain't enough for you, look at Ilos and how that failed, too.
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if javik was indeed the last prothean, why does nobody give a damn in the story? [/quote]
They do.
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and most of all, people want protheans. bioware can make lots of money off of prothean dlc [/quote]
Some people.
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Oh look, someone who thinks that using an outdated meme makes them a comedic genius. I have no doubt that your "originality" is a very big indicator of what the rest of your post contains.
Are you even going to try? That isn't even an argument, it's a question! If you truly want to put this to rest (which you are incapable of doing), you need to prove that Javik is the last of his kind. And you can't. That's why you people are mocked, because you make assumptions and claim them as facts. Unless you work for Bioware and are in control of the Mass Effect universe, you cannot tell anyone that Protheans are completely gone and Javik is the last of his kind. Without proof from a valid source, there is nothing to even argue about. You're not right, so this theory still stands.
I have a bad feeling that literally all of your arguments are already discussed in my previous posts. Two facilities in the entire GALAXY are not enough to make an accurate assumption. That would be like taking my grandparents and saying that they're the model for everyone's grandparents in the entire world, meaning that 50% of the grandparents in the world are dead and the other 50% are on the brink of death from Alzheimer's. Doesn't seem too accurate does it? Now change the scale from planetary to galactic. Even less accurate huh?
You really think that two words are enough to disprove an argument? You don't even give any evidence, you just say "I say that they do, so I'm right". One group of people on the Citadel react. One. That is not nearly as much attention as the supposed "last" Prothean should be getting. Do you remember how many people were excited when they found that natural mummy that was referred to as the "Iceman"? So many people wanted to study it and learn from it's well preserved corpse about past life. Now imagine that this mummy was over 50,000 years old, could speak English, and was still alive. If you truly believe that only a single group of people aboard the Citadel would be amazed by its presence, you're being delusional.
Once again, you provide an unsatisfying argument that is only two words. You obviously haven't been looking at polls or asking people their opinions on the matter. Polls are flooded with Pro-thean support and a VERY large portion of the community want Protheans in MP, especially if they're integrated tastefully. If Bioware adds them in, they will be met with more support than outrage and they will end up making a very large amount of money. Just because a few stubborn people are sitting in a corner with their eyes closed and fingers in their ears screaming "LALALALALALALAL I CAN'T HEAR YOOOOOOOU LALALALALALALALALALALALA" does not mean that they will lose out on such an easy opportunity for money.
[quote]Schneidend wrote...
[quote]Father Superior wrote...
Waste time and effort? They can copy and paste Javik's animations, mechanics and models into the MP with slight adjustments and they're done. The SP DLC still needs to be made, but half the work is already done for them, by them.
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I don't want them to do even that. I don't want to play as a prothean. It just does not interest me at all. I would rather have DLC that introduces classes I'll actually play.
[quote]saturos2 wrote...
yes nay sayers because geth on earth fighting other geth makes more sense.[/quote]
Heretic/Indoctrinated Geth Vs. Shepard's Non-Indoctrinated Geth Allies makes perfect sense to me.
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If you're really so opposed to Protheans that you can say that you will NEVER touch them even if they're in the game, then you aren't being anything other than stubborn and there is no point in trying to please you. Saying that new content isn't good enough for you because you think you know the story better than Bioware is just plain stupid.
Also, Geth did not appear on Earth at any point in ME3. The Reapers had more than enough of their ground forces on Earth, so for them to send Geth there wouldn't make any sense, especially considering that the Reaper presence on Rannoch consisted entirely of Geth heretics (and the lone Reaper itself, of course). Never put all of your eggs in one basket (only approximately 51% were guarding the single weapon that could wipe them from existence, remember?).
[quote]corporal doody wrote...
[quote]rockthatwood wrote...
as i said. nobody can KNOW that he is the last. that IS a fact.
and having plenty of places to hide in the galaxy is a fact for ANY race. it's an ENTIRE GALAXY.
and even if they did get revenge, you are assuming that those races somehow knew where to find protheans and the reapers didn't
corporal doody you are just very bad at debating and you bring nothing to the table. from here on out i'm going to disregard anything you say unless it is very factual and strongly supports your argument.[/quote]
ROGER THAT!
i disagree with you so i dont know how to debate.
GAWD I LOVE THE BSN!
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You're kidding right? You literally tried to argue that because YOU didn't think it was probable, something that you are not in the position to decide, Protheans would be impossible. You are not in the position to tell anyone that they don't know how to debate, because it is clear that you don't know how to either. Trying to argue that your doubt is a valid proof against an argument and then telling someone that they don't know how to debate is comical.
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