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[Xaijin]

xSNPx ZoDiaC wrote...

Xaijin wrote...

rockthatwood wrote...

Protheans will happen. Klencory. Money in Bioware's pocket. End of discussion. Do your research and use your heads.

Klencory as nothing to do with Protheans, since it's decribing the Starkid.

Further indoctrination style desperation.

You must be desperate. Klenclory has NOTHING to do with the Crucible, Starkid, or the ending period. WTF are you smoking?



Your attempts at trolling... I find them primitive. 

*opens airlock*

After you, primitive.

Wrong. Being of light is pretty well descriptive, and it's not about an ensalving empire.

[Carnagedude504]

I doubt that they would be able to clone an army that quickly. After all, the cloning operation in ME1 produced a few Krogan, maybe enough for a small division of armed infantry, and since Shepard finds Javik (the last known prothean) in the limited time-span of ME3, it really doesn't seem likely that cloning would work. Not only that, but what about the technology? Protheans are ancient, and who knows if cloning devices would work on them? Maybe it wouldn't be able to reproduce their DNA, and how long would it take to train these cloned warriors if the cloning process even proves to be effective? Unless you want a lot of half-brained (quarter-brained doesn't sound as good) Protheans running around then it won't happen.

[rockthatwood]

Carnagedude504 wrote...

I doubt that they would be able to clone an army that quickly. After all, the cloning operation in ME1 produced a few Krogan, maybe enough for a small division of armed infantry, and since Shepard finds Javik (the last known prothean) in the limited time-span of ME3, it really doesn't seem likely that cloning would work. Not only that, but what about the technology? Protheans are ancient, and who knows if cloning devices would work on them? Maybe it wouldn't be able to reproduce their DNA, and how long would it take to train these cloned warriors if the cloning process even proves to be effective? Unless you want a lot of half-brained (quarter-brained doesn't sound as good) Protheans running around then it won't happen.

currently, in our world, we can use dinosaur dna to reproduce with similar species.

and in the mass effect universe (which is thousands of times more advanced than we are) i'm sure it's possible to clone 50,000 year old dna.

also, it would take a matter of minutes to train them. they learn through touch. read the OP.

[corporal doody]

rockthatwood wrote...

Carnagedude504 wrote...

I doubt that they would be able to clone an army that quickly. After all, the cloning operation in ME1 produced a few Krogan, maybe enough for a small division of armed infantry, and since Shepard finds Javik (the last known prothean) in the limited time-span of ME3, it really doesn't seem likely that cloning would work. Not only that, but what about the technology? Protheans are ancient, and who knows if cloning devices would work on them? Maybe it wouldn't be able to reproduce their DNA, and how long would it take to train these cloned warriors if the cloning process even proves to be effective? Unless you want a lot of half-brained (quarter-brained doesn't sound as good) Protheans running around then it won't happen.

currently, in our world, we can use dinosaur dna to reproduce with similar species.

and in the mass effect universe (which is thousands of times more advanced than we are) i'm sure it's possible to clone 50,000 year old dna.

also, it would take a matter of minutes to train them. they learn through touch. read the OP.

holy crap...i thought i was in the Jurassic Park universe for a second. had to read that twice!

cuz of that was the case....i would need to apologize to the TC/OP!

[Carnagedude504]

rockthatwood wrote...

currently, in our world, we can use dinosaur dna to reproduce with similar species.

and in the mass effect universe (which is thousands of times more advanced than we are) i'm sure it's possible to clone 50,000 year old dna.

also, it would take a matter of minutes to train them. they learn through touch. read the OP.

You may think that they learn through touch, but we don't know if this is a triggered ot passive racial ability. If it's not a passive ability, then the cloners would have to train the clones manually, much like the tank-bred Krogan in ME1 and ME2. The origin of the Prothean's ability is not explained, therefore this 'cloning' process could go one of two ways, in complete success or extreme failure. I go with the latter, because I believe it would be an inconvenience to learn everything about something as soon as I touch it. If you've played ME3's From ashes DLC you'd know that the ability supports the 'activated' theory, since Shepard can ask Javik what he can sense about the room he is in, and it takes him a moment to process the information.

[corporal doody]

and im not convinced Javik would ALLOW himself to be cloned. so any cloning would have to be from other sources (fossilized Prothean remains perhaps)....if it was possible...im pretty sure they would have done this by the time our story began.

so no...i doubt cloning.


and conveniently finding prothean cryo tubes with live protheans...en masse....laughable

Modifié par corporal doody, 15 août 2012 - 05:19 .

[XenirAhlen]

Couldn't javik find a map of bunker locations in the memories of his cube cylinder thingie and you find enough surviving protheans through all the different bases to make a small army?

[corporal doody]

XenirAhlen wrote...

Couldn't javik find a map of bunker locations in the memories of his cube cylinder thingie and you find enough surviving protheans through all the different bases to make a small army?

i think he said they were already cut off long before he got frozen...so he was unaware of what was going on where.
and vengeance is on his mind...not hide & go seek. im pretty sure he is more than convinced he is the last...and would have found such info...should BW have wanted him to.

Modifié par corporal doody, 15 août 2012 - 05:46 .

[xSNPx ZoDiaC]

Bump, for the Empire!

[Installation17]

Once more into the airlock dear friends! It's time for SCIENCE!
-Kusovin solus: mad scientist.

[rockthatwood]

if anything, i think NOT finding more protheans would ruin javik's story.

you found the "last" prothean, and now he's just going to die? they need to find at least 6 or 7 protheans and have a few of them be female.

maybe the facility they find on Klencory houses thousands of protheans and all but about a half dozen died. that is realistic and reasonable.

[Nissun]

rockthatwood wrote...

if anything, i think NOT finding more protheans would ruin javik's story.

you found the "last" prothean, and now he's just going to die?

Yes. Javik's character had two endings: Either he lets go off the past and comes to terms with what he has lost (learning to live in this new galaxy in the process), or he lets it torment him to the point of suicide. There is no third option.

If you want him to have a harem of Prothean ladies, take that idea to a fanfiction site where it belongs.

Modifié par Nissun, 16 août 2012 - 08:36 .

[rockthatwood]

Nissun wrote...

rockthatwood wrote...

if anything, i think NOT finding more protheans would ruin javik's story.

you found the "last" prothean, and now he's just going to die?

Yes. Javik's character had two endings: Either he lets go off the past and comes to terms with what he has lost (learning to live in this new galaxy in the process), or he lets it torment him to the point of suicide. There is no third option.

If you want him to have a harem of Prothean ladies, take that idea to a fanfiction site where it belongs.

or i'll just leave it here since it belongs here as well. and who are you to say he only gets two endings?

[SapientesGladio]

Lol their coming with the MP dlc this October

Butthurt for anti prothean ppl lol

Hey heres something else that was extinct...the rachni, look in your codex

[rockthatwood]

SapientesGladio wrote...

Lol their coming with the MP dlc this October

Butthurt for anti prothean ppl lol

Hey heres something else that was extinct...the rachni, look in your codex

source? and yes i love throwing the rachni in anti-prothean's faces.

[Nissun]

rockthatwood wrote...

or i'll just leave it here since it belongs here as well. and who are you to say he only gets two endings?

 ...but that's his story arc. That is literally what the writers wrote for him.

Bringing prothean buddies back for him would be kinda like saying "Hey, turns out that Garrus' squad didn't really die! They were just hiding!"

"Oh, and Liara's mother isn't really dead either! She just took an Asari poison that made her look dead! But she's alive and not indoctrinated anymore!"

"And good news, Tali! Your father isn't dead! He's alive and super proud of you! Come on everybody! GROUP HUG!!!"

[rockthatwood]

here's a quote i found that supports my reasoning:

Here's the thing, though: we don't know that the Prothean companion
is the only Prothean in Mass Effect 3. In fact, when you think about it,
that'd make no sense whatsoever. A major event like the return of the
Protheans isn't something you can just tack on without completely
screwing up the story, and unless the DLC adds a new line of "Holy s---,
a Prothean!" dialogue to every single character you speak to, it'd be
totally awkward and broken. It'd be like walking up to someone with your
pet pterodactyl on a leash and them not noticing anything weird. The
only way this can possibly work is if the revelation of the existence of
at least one living Prothean is part of the main game's story.



Historically, BioWare's writers have demonstrated that they're smart
enough to know that. And if they're not, you'd be better of playing ME3
without this story-breaking DLC, and treating it like sweepings from the
cutting-room floor that are best left there.

[o Gummy o]

HEY LISTEN the one thing everyone is forgetting is that protheans powers aren't even that good it would basically just be like the N7 FURY there once unique powers are basically the same annihilation field, dark channel and then there's lift grenades plus a few others I can't remember the furs powers are the only ones that stood out as being new, the only MP unique thing is slam I'm pretty sure.

[rockthatwood]

o Gummy o wrote...

HEY LISTEN the one thing everyone is forgetting is that protheans powers aren't even that good it would basically just be like the N7 FURY there once unique powers are basically the same annihilation field, dark channel and then there's lift grenades plus a few others I can't remember the furs powers are the only ones that stood out as being new, the only MP unique thing is slam I'm pretty sure.

i just want them because it's a new character, they are badass, they have green biotics, they can easily make up new powers for them, and they could potentially have a racial boost to the particle rifle/biotic power.

also, to have a prothean come back and just die kinda sucks.

Modifié par rockthatwood, 16 août 2012 - 09:47 .

[xSNPx ZoDiaC]

Fury is a joke.


Prothean Adept

Dark Channel
Biotic Barrage or throw that can get the final evo from SP(two throw projectiles at once)
Dominate

Unique


Prothean Vanguard

Biotic Charge
Annihilation Field
Slam

Unique



And these I just thought off the top of my head. I'm hopeful BioWare can do better.

[Tallnesss]

prothean playable character + collecter ememies dlc

want

[SapientesGladio]

On wiki go to note 48 watch all of Mr. Meers interview, what other alien could he voice act in mp other than prothean....unless bioware Really Is going to introduce new aliens in leviathan...but all I saw in those pics was a green human looking character

[BlessedSoldier]

Saren cloned an army of Krogan.

You are telling me we cannot clone 4 Protheans?

[gh0st wh1sp3r]

No. No Protheans, please.

[KiraTsukasa]

o Gummy o wrote...

HEY LISTEN

Navi... goway.