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[m2iCodeJockey]

Obadiah wrote...
The Catalyst does not say it has evolved - it says it is not "just an AI."
By its statement the Catalyst sees itself as an advanced AI.

Excellent point. I stand corrected.

BaladasDemnevanni wrote...
Wait, wasn't the point of that statement supposed to be that the Catalyst rejects such a restrictive classification?

What I would point out is: Because it did not state itself in exclusion from an AI within that particular statement, it has, by extension, also not excluded itself from the description "synthetic."

[AngryFrozenWater]

dreman9999 wrote...

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

Kataphrut94 wrote...

I'm not bothered by his motivation - the idea of hitting the reset button on a civilisation before it reaches the point of collapse in order to preserve the younger ones and give them their fair go doesn't make sense to me, but I can get how it would to an immortal AI.

It is worth remembering that the Catalyst is something in the realm of billions of years old - the idea that organics and synthetics cannot coexist probably started with his own creators and their troubles, but I'm sure that within that timeframe enough evidence has accumulated over the millenia to support his argument. Within the last two cycles (an eyeblink to the Reapers) we've had the Zha'til, the geth and several smaller-scale conflicts like that one money-grubbing AI on the Citadel in Mass Effect 1. I like to think that guy was actually the Catalyst playing a prank.

That's why I don't believe making peace between the geth and quarians should be enough to convince him. Partly because it's a pretty anticlimactic way to end a series and wouldn't really work from a game design perspective, but mainly because something that old with that level of experience would have heard all the excuses before and not be fazed in the slightest.

Well... It's too vague to treat that hypothetical threat seriously. In the last two cycles the reapers turned the zha'til against the zha, the quarians caused the Morning War, plus the reapers turned the heretics hostile and controlled the geth on Rannoch. The reapers just turned those synthetics hostile in an attempt to prove its point.

It doesn't do that toprove it's point. It takes controlof them to impose their beliefs. Synthetics up risedageinstorganics 3 times in the series with out reaper involvement.
The morning war.
Project overlord
the 
Hahne-Kedar[/b] mech mission in ME2.

Of course you know that the Morning War was caused by the quarians. You know that Project Overlord was a Cerberus project and that the problem was a human who was forced against his will. The Hahne Kedar mission was about VIs (infected by a virus) and not about AIs. But it doesn't really matter, because none of those situations required the interference of the brat and its boys. Organics solved those problems just fine.

You know all that, but you have deliberately chosen to make the facts adapt to your belief system. That's because you like to believe in that hypothetical threat. That's not my problem. It is yours.

[Thaa_solon]

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

Kataphrut94 wrote...

I'm not bothered by his motivation - the idea of hitting the reset button on a civilisation before it reaches the point of collapse in order to preserve the younger ones and give them their fair go doesn't make sense to me, but I can get how it would to an immortal AI.

It is worth remembering that the Catalyst is something in the realm of billions of years old - the idea that organics and synthetics cannot coexist probably started with his own creators and their troubles, but I'm sure that within that timeframe enough evidence has accumulated over the millenia to support his argument. Within the last two cycles (an eyeblink to the Reapers) we've had the Zha'til, the geth and several smaller-scale conflicts like that one money-grubbing AI on the Citadel in Mass Effect 1. I like to think that guy was actually the Catalyst playing a prank.

That's why I don't believe making peace between the geth and quarians should be enough to convince him. Partly because it's a pretty anticlimactic way to end a series and wouldn't really work from a game design perspective, but mainly because something that old with that level of experience would have heard all the excuses before and not be fazed in the slightest.

Well... It's too vague to treat that hypothetical threat seriously. In the last two cycles the reapers turned the zha'til against the zha, the quarians caused the Morning War, plus the reapers turned the heretics hostile and controlled the geth on Rannoch. The reapers just turned those synthetics hostile in an attempt to prove its point.

It doesn't do that toprove it's point. It takes controlof them to impose their beliefs. Synthetics up risedageinstorganics 3 times in the series with out reaper involvement.
The morning war.
Project overlord
the 
Hahne-Kedar[/b] mech mission in ME2.

Of course you know that the Morning War was caused by the quarians. You know that Project Overlord was a Cerberus project and that the problem was a human who was forced against his will. The Hahne Kedar mission was about VIs (infected by a virus) and not about AIs. But it doesn't really matter, because none of those situations required the interference of the brat and its boys. Organics solved those problems just fine.

You know all that, but you have deliberately chosen to make the facts adapt to your belief system. That's because you like to believe in that hypothetical threat. That's not my problem. It is yours.

Oh snap

[Blueprotoss]

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

Of course you know that the Morning War was caused by the quarians. You know that Project Overlord was a Cerberus project and that the problem was a human who was forced against his will. The Hahne Kedar mission was about VIs (infected by a virus) and not about AIs. But it doesn't really matter, because none of those situations required the interference of the brat and its boys. Organics solved those problems just fine.

You know all that, but you have deliberately chosen to make the facts adapt to your belief system. That's because you like to believe in that hypothetical threat. That's not my problem. It is yours.

Yet the Synthetics started those conflicts, organics continued those same conflicts, and a cyborg named Shepard solved all of those problems at least for now.

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 19 août 2012 - 01:23 .

[m2iCodeJockey]

Blueprotoss wrote...
Yet the Synthetics started those conflicts, organics continued those same conflicts, and a cyborg named Shepard solved all of those problems at least for now.

You are mistaken. Synthetics did not start any of those conflicts.
As far as I can remember, the only conflict that was clearly initiated by an intelligent synthetic was the gambler. Even the Lunar VI malfunction was questionable.

During the ME narrative, all synthetic belligerence has been instigated by Reapers.

[Obadiah]

Two things:
1) Who starts the conflict is irrelevant- the point is the conflict and outcome are inevitable.
2) Though Catalyst is an AI, it does not see itself as part of the Synthetic/Organic war (in the same way a judge of law from a locality may hot see himself as beholden to local political bias)

[m2iCodeJockey]

Obadiah wrote...
1) Who starts the conflict is irrelevant- the point is the conflict and outcome are inevitable.

In this case, it does matter when testing Ghostie for truth. The Reapers have directly caused the symptoms yet, the outcome of each examined event has not be as Ghostie predicted.

Obadiah wrote...
2) Though Catalyst is an AI, it does not see itself as part of the Synthetic/Organic war (in the same way a judge of law from a locality may hot see himself as beholden to local political bias)

Clearly, it is a part as it admits the First People did not want to be Harby sauce...

[Blueprotoss]

m2iCodeJockey wrote...

You are mistaken. Synthetics did not start any of those conflicts.
As far as I can remember, the only conflict that was clearly initiated by an intelligent synthetic was the gambler. Even the Lunar VI malfunction was questionable.

So you missed the whole VI scene with Legion or the Geth VI on how that Geth unit defended itself from its Quarian creator.  The Lunar AI aka EDI didnt know better while some humans did die.

m2iCodeJockey wrote... 

During the ME narrative, all synthetic belligerence has been instigated by Reapers.

All of the synthetics in ME practice self-defense and they normally went to the Reapers for help like Legion did in ME3.

m2iCodeJockey wrote...

In this case, it does matter when testing Ghostie for truth. The Reapers have directly caused the symptoms yet, the outcome of each examined event has not be as Ghostie predicted.

Yet the Reapers have only helped the synthetics fight agianst the organics.

m2iCodeJockey wrote... 

Clearly, it is a part as it admits the First People did not want to be Harby sauce...

If the Reaper AI wasn't a judge then it would have have fallen under Control, Synthesis, and Destroy. 

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 19 août 2012 - 03:36 .

[Obadiah]

m2iCodeJockey wrote...

Obadiah wrote...
1) Who starts the conflict is irrelevant- the point is the conflict and outcome are inevitable.

In this case, it does matter when testing Ghostie for truth. The Reapers have directly caused the symptoms yet, the outcome of each examined event has not be as Ghostie predicted.

The Reapers haven't, since life flourishes during each cycle.

m2iCodeJockey wrote...

Obadiah wrote...
2) Though Catalyst is an AI, it does not see itself as part of the Synthetic/Organic war (in the same way a judge of law from a locality may hot see himself as beholden to local political bias)

Clearly, it is a part as it admits the First People did not want to be Harby sauce...

No one wants the "Harby sauce" - that doesn't make the Catalyst part of the inevitable conflict or destruction. The Catalyst stops the complete destruction of all organics from happening by wiping out all sides capable of achieving that (thus allowing organic life to evolve anew). It is engaged in a conflict with advanced life in each cycle, not the conflict that will result in complete destruction of all organic life.

Modifié par Obadiah, 19 août 2012 - 02:21 .

[AngryFrozenWater]

Blueprotoss wrote...

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

Of course you know that the Morning War was caused by the quarians. You know that Project Overlord was a Cerberus project and that the problem was a human who was forced against his will. The Hahne Kedar mission was about VIs (infected by a virus) and not about AIs. But it doesn't really matter, because none of those situations required the interference of the brat and its boys. Organics solved those problems just fine.

You know all that, but you have deliberately chosen to make the facts adapt to your belief system. That's because you like to believe in that hypothetical threat. That's not my problem. It is yours.

Yet the Synthetics started those conflicts, organics continued those same conflicts, and a cyborg named Shepard solved all of those problems at least for now.

Pardon? Which conflicts were started by synthetics? Come on. Let me hear it. None mentioned in my posts ever started any conflict. From zha'til to geth all were either started by organics or by the reapers.

Modifié par AngryFrozenWater, 19 août 2012 - 05:16 .

[m2iCodeJockey]

Blueprotoss wrote...
The Lunar AI aka EDI didnt know better while some humans did die.

I said the situation was questionable, not that the Lunar VI was belligerent. The situation does not fit the test perfectly.
On the other hand, it was revealed that Cerberus tampered with the VI to test AI and anything Cerberus is TIM - TIM has been down with the Oily Shadows since the First Contact War so, actually it does fit. Reaper interaction indirectly caused the Lunar VI incident...

Blueprotoss wrote...
All of the synthetics in ME practice self-defense and they normally went to the Reapers for help like Legion did in ME3.

You misunderstand. When I say "belligerence," I mean "attacking without provocation," not including "self defense."
To defend one's own existence is not belligerence. To land on planet and shove a telescoping pole...

Blueprotoss wrote...
Yet the Reapers have only helped the synthetics fight agianst the organics.

You misunderstand again.
In order to fit Ghostie's assumption, synthetics need to be consistently able to best organics without the Reapers being anywhere near the situation. So far, in the two main conflicts we can examine, Zha'til and Geth, the Reapers have shown up right when organics looked to be gaining the upper hand.
Transversely, Ghostie said it was trying to prevent synthetic singularity - Reapers shouldn't be aiding self replicating AI, anyway.

Blueprotoss wrote...
If the Reaper AI wasn't a judge then it would have have fallen under Control, Synthesis, and Destroy.

If Ghostie told the truth, it should have been replaced in Control and killed in Destroy.
If either of those two particular things is untrue, none of Ghostie's mission statement should be regarded as truth.

[m2iCodeJockey]

Obadiah wrote...
The Reapers haven't, since life flourishes during each cycle.

There is also no need for them since ANY life exists.

Obadiah wrote...
...by wiping out all sides capable of achieving...

Ott-ott!! HOLD IT!!!
The only thing capable of being synthetic wiping out all life in the Milky Way is a system of synthetics!

*alarm sounds in reaper realm.*
Ghostie: "Oh Bytella! Be a dear and push that red button..."
Bytella: "Yeeeees, Hubby!" *pushes virtual button, big red flashover from citadel space*

Somewhere...
*geth all fall down at once*
Geth: "*BWEEEEEeeeeeooooooooooooooooooooooooo...*"
Quarians: "WTF!!!"

Somewhere else...
Kaidan: "Hey... My headache is gone..."

Modifié par m2iCodeJockey, 19 août 2012 - 04:11 .

[Blueprotoss]

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

Of course you know that the Morning War was caused by the quarians. You know that Project Overlord was a Cerberus project and that the problem was a human who was forced against his will. The Hahne Kedar mission was about VIs (infected by a virus) and not about AIs. But it doesn't really matter, because none of those situations required the interference of the brat and its boys. Organics solved those problems just fine.

You know all that, but you have deliberately chosen to make the facts adapt to your belief system. That's because you like to believe in that hypothetical threat. That's not my problem. It is yours.

Yet the Synthetics started those conflicts, organics continued those same conflicts, and a cyborg named Shepard solved all of those problems at least for now.

Pardon? Which conflicts were started by synthetics? Come on. Let me hear it. None mentioned in my posts ever started any conflict. From zha'til to geth all were either started by organics or by the reapers.

The Geth defending themselves that started the Morning War, AIs becoming self-aware, and the Reapers themeslevs are examples of known conflicts started by synthetics.

[Blueprotoss]

m2iCodeJockey wrote...

I said the situation was questionable, not that the Lunar VI was belligerent. The situation does not fit the test perfectly.
On the other hand, it was revealed that Cerberus tampered with the VI to test AI and anything Cerberus is TIM - TIM has been down with the Oily Shadows since the First Contact War so, actually it does fit. Reaper interaction indirectly caused the Lunar VI incident...

Either way the Lunar AI aka EDI didnt know better by accidenty killing some humans.

m2iCodeJockey wrote... 

You misunderstand. When I say "belligerence," I mean "attacking without provocation," not including "self defense."
To defend one's own existence is not belligerence. To land on planet and shove a telescoping pole...

The orginal Geth unit that started the rebellion did kill a Quarian by accident and accidental deaths happen in real life by self-defense with or without provocation.

m2iCodeJockey wrote...

You misunderstand again.
In order to fit Ghostie's assumption, synthetics need to be consistently able to best organics without the Reapers being anywhere near the situation. So far, in the two main conflicts we can examine, Zha'til and Geth, the Reapers have shown up right when organics looked to be gaining the upper hand.
Transversely, Ghostie said it was trying to prevent synthetic singularity - Reapers shouldn't be aiding self replicating AI, anyway.

How is that a misunderstanding when some of the Quarians keep on attacking the Geth to wipe out or get revenge on the Geth.  The Reaper AI will defend other Synthetics while those rogue synthetics will be eventually destroyed.

m2iCodeJockey wrote... 

If Ghostie told the truth, it should have been replaced in Control and killed in Destroy.
If either of those two particular things is untrue, none of Ghostie's mission statement should be regarded as truth.

Asmptions are being made here based on the very limited knowledge on the Reapers then less is known about the Reaper AI.  We also know nothing outside of the Milky Way.

m2iCodeJockey wrote...

There is also no need for them since ANY life exists.

It sounds like you missed the simple explaination that some organics at harvested before the point of self-destruction to preserve every organic peice of life.  That has been knowningly done for billions of years based on some of the ages with a couple of the Reapers.

m2iCodeJockey wrote...

Ott-ott!! HOLD IT!!!
The only thing capable of being synthetic wiping out all life in the Milky Way is a system of synthetics!

*alarm sounds in reaper realm.*
Ghostie: "Oh Bytella! Be a dear and push that red button..."
Bytella: "Yeeeees, Hubby!" *pushes virtual button, big red flashover from citadel space*

Somewhere...
*geth all fall down at once*
Geth: "*BWEEEEEeeeeeooooooooooooooooooooooooo...*"
Quarians: "WTF!!!"

Somewhere else...
Kaidan: "Hey... My headache is gone..."

So now you're overanalyzing. 

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 20 août 2012 - 01:59 .

[Applepie_Svk]

Blueprotoss wrote...
The Geth defending themselves that started the Morning War, AIs becoming self-aware, and the Reapers themeslevs are examples of known conflicts started by synthetics.

Geth ask the question first, than hurr durr panic in entire Quarian gouverment - let´s kill them til they will know how to handle gun - unfortunately for them geth learning faster and otherwise not whole Quarian people desire death of Geths, there were few which have tried to defend them and yet they end in blood because again hurr durr this one defending geth kill her too !

Morning war start because Geths ask the question and Quarians pull the trigger as much as I am looking on it Geths are here good guys, what happened next was punishment for ignorance.

[m2iCodeJockey]

Blueprotoss wrote...
The Geth defending themselves that started the Morning War, AIs becoming self-aware, and the Reapers themeslevs are examples of known conflicts started by synthetics.

So, your thing is a matter of perspective.
If the synthetics are already self aware then, begin returning fire, that is a synthetic "starting" a conflict?

[Blueprotoss]

Applepie_Svk wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...
The Geth defending themselves that started the Morning War, AIs becoming self-aware, and the Reapers themeslevs are examples of known conflicts started by synthetics.

Geth ask the question first, than hurr durr panic in entire Quarian gouverment - let´s kill them til they will know how to handle gun - unfortunately for them geth learning faster and otherwise not whole Quarian people desire death of Geths, there were few which have tried to defend them and yet they end in blood because again hurr durr this one defending geth kill her too !

Morning war start because Geths ask the question and Quarians pull the trigger as much as I am looking on it Geths are here good guys, what happened next was punishment for ignorance.

Yeah the Morning War is a fear induced reaction while the Geth did cause it.  I do think that the Geth weren't the guilty party while you need two to tango properly.

[m2iCodeJockey]

Blueprotoss wrote...
Either way the Lunar AI aka EDI didnt know better by accidenty killing some humans.

What matters is that it's synthetic vs organic conflict that was influenced by Reaper activity.

Blueprotoss wrote...
The orginal Geth unit that started the rebellion did kill a Quarian by accident and accidental deaths happen in real life by self-defense with or without provocation.

Picking up a sniper rifle and firing was an accident?
I may have misunderstood the order of events.

Blueprotoss wrote...
The Reaper AI will defend other Synthetics while those rogue synthetics will be eventually destroyed.

That makes no sense. We're testing absolute logic (truth.)
If self replicating AI is the danger, it should also be the priority.
If prevention of the loss of organic existence is its primary goal, it should not take part in a single battle in aid of any party.
The incident is proof that the Reapers' goal does not have to do with preservation of organics.

Blueprotoss wrote...
Asmptions are being made here based on the very limited knowledge on the Reapers then less is known about the Reaper AI. We also know nothing outside of the Milky Way.

No assumption is being made.
I'm speaking only from the perspective of the dialog.
Ghostie: "I know you've thought about destroying us."
.
.
Ghostie: "...And I do not look forward to being replaced by you but, I would be forced to accept it."
I'm going by what the thing said. It IS supposed to be giving me justification for taking its options.
If I chose "Destroy" then, find the little bastard standing over me in the pile of Citadel rubble, it lied.

Blueprotoss wrote...
So now you're overanalyzing.

I'm over analyzing? So, it's less expensive to "preserve" 7Trillion people * 20000 invasions than it is to build 1 Crucible and zap any offending AI?
Did you know that using the ME2 method of "collecting" humans, it would have taken 53 years to complete Arnold?
Did you know that using the ME3 process, it will take 12 years just to process Earth?
Look in the codex and test it.

The thing is broken and/or it's lying. The sum of the Reapers' action has been to uplift synthetics.

Modifié par m2iCodeJockey, 20 août 2012 - 02:56 .

[Blueprotoss]

m2iCodeJockey wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...
The Geth defending themselves that started the Morning War, AIs becoming self-aware, and the Reapers themeslevs are examples of known conflicts started by synthetics.

So, your thing is a matter of perspective.
If the synthetics are already self aware then, begin returning fire, that is a synthetic "starting" a conflict?

Yet your points are a view on prespective even when most of the known synthetics accidently in this cycle fired 1st while the others became self-aware and purposely killed.

[Blueprotoss]

m2iCodeJockey wrote...

What matters is that it's synthetic vs organic conflict that was influenced by Reaper activity.

The Morning War didn't involve the Reapers, which the Geth started.

m2iCodeJockey wrote... 

Picking up a sniper rifle and firing was an accident?
I may have misunderstood the order of events.

Accidents start wars in real life and its not a stretch in a video game or another form of medium.

m2iCodeJockey wrote... 

That makes no sense. We're testing absolute logic (truth.)
If self replicating AI is the danger, it should also be the priority.
If prevention of the loss of organic existence is its primary goal, it should not take part in a single battle in aid of any party.
The incident is proof that the Reapers' goal does not have to do with preservation of organics.

How is that when this logic is opinion not fact especially when you look at ME's lore.

m2iCodeJockey wrote... 

No assumption is being made.
I'm speaking only from the perspective of the dialog.
Ghostie: "I know you've thought about destroying us."

Ghostie: "...And I do not look forward to being replaced by you, but I would be forced to accept it."
I'm going by what the thing said. It IS supposed to be giving me justification for taking its options.
If I chose "Destroy" then, find the little bastard standing over me in the pile of Citadel rubble, it lied.

Assumptions are being made here based on the very limited knowledge on the Reapers then less is known about the Reaper AI. We also know nothing outside of the Milky Way and that isn't based on prespective.

m2iCodeJockey wrote... 

I'm over analyzing? So, it's less expensive to "preserve" 7Trillion people * 20000 invasions than it is to build 1 Crucible and zap any offending AI?
Did you know that using the ME2 method of "collecting" humans, it would have taken 53 years to complete Arnold?
Did you know that using the ME3 process, it will take 12 years just to process Earth?
Look in the codex and test it.

If you really looked at the codex then you missed what was listed and you're still overanalyzing what you support.

m2iCodeJockey wrote... 

The thing is broken and/or it's lying. The sum of the Reapers' action has been to uplift synthetics.

The Reaper AI lying/broken is up to opinion and the Reapers' actions are based on preserving organics before self-destruction of some advanced organics to wipe out all or most of life in the Milky Way.

[m2iCodeJockey]

Blueprotoss wrote...
How is that when this logic is opinion not fact especially when you look at ME's lore.

There is no opinion.
If the priority is preservation and the threat is the self-replicating Geth
then no Reaper should willfully aid a Geth in the destruction of a Quarian if there's no chance of preservation.

Blueprotoss wrote...
Assumptions are being made here based on the very limited knowledge on the Reapers then less is known about the Reaper AI. We also know nothing outside of the Milky Way and that isn't based on prespective.

No assumption being made. I went specifically by what it said to test its logic against the Reapers' actions.

Blueprotoss wrote...
If you really looked at the codex then you missed what was listed and you're still overanalyzing what you support.

If you are going to say I missed something, please be specific and possibly link in your counter.

It lists the populous of Earth before the invasion.
It states the 1.5M people being processed per day.
It will take 11.7 years to process the populous of Earth.
How long would you say it took to build a Crucible?

That's quite topical. I could have scrutinized more.

Blueprotoss wrote...
The Reaper AI lying/broken is up to opinion and the Reapers' actions are based on preserving organics before self-destruction of some advanced organics to wipe out all or most of life in the Milky Way.

If you are going to say there is opinion involved in comparing Ghostie's stated objective to the Reapers' actions, it is also an opinion that any self-replicating AI is capable of galactic singularity.
It can't tell the difference of a harmed vs unharmed organic.

I'd say the person that made such a thing as Ghostie would have a different take on your statement since it did make him into paste. You know?

Modifié par m2iCodeJockey, 20 août 2012 - 04:01 .

[Blueprotoss]

m2iCodeJockey wrote...

There is no opinion.

Yes it is when you go aginst the lore.

m2iCodeJockey wrote... 

If the priority is preservation and the threat is the self-replicating Geth
then no Reaper should willfully aid a Geth in the destruction of a Quarian if there's no chance of preservation.

Thats a straw-mann based on how the Geth didn't side with the Reapers until ME1, which was hundreds of years after the Morning War.

m2iCodeJockey wrote.. 
 
No assumption being made. I went specifically by what it said to test its logic against the Reapers' actions.

Again assumptions are being made because the Geth didn't side with the Reapers until ME1, which was hundreds of years after the Morning War. 

m2iCodeJockey wrote... 

If you are going to say I missed something, please be specific and possibly link in your counter.

It lists the populous of Earth before the invasion.
It states the 1.5M people being processed per day.
It will take 11.7 years to process the populous of Earth.
How long would you say it took to build a Crucible?

That's quite topical. I could have scrutinized more.

You missed a lot in the basic lore like most of the things related to synthetics.

m2iCodeJockey wrote... 

If you are going to say there is opinion involved in comparing Ghostie's stated objective to the Reapers' actions, it is also an opinion that any self-replicating AI is capable of galactic singularity.

There is no opinion with the Reaper AI based on how we know nothing outside of this cycle and the Milky Way other then a couple peices of knowledge from the Protheans.

m2iCodeJockey wrote... 

It can't tell the difference of a harmed vs unharmed organic.

If thats the case then there wold be no organic liife.

m2iCodeJockey wrote... 

I'd say the person that made such a thing as Ghostie would have a different take on your statement since it did make him into paste. You know?

Yet this is an assmption.

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 20 août 2012 - 05:22 .

[m2iCodeJockey]

Blueprotoss wrote...

m2iCodeJockey wrote... 

If you are going to say I missed something, please be specific and possibly link in your counter.

It lists the populous of Earth before the invasion.
It states the 1.5M people being processed per day. 
It will take 11.7 years to process the populous of Earth.
How long would you say it took to build a Crucible?

That's quite topical. I could have scrutinized more.

You missed a lot in the basic lore like most of the things related to synthetics. 

What do synthetics have to do with what the codex said about Earth's populous and how long it takes to process them?
Please link an entry to support your point.

[Blueprotoss]

m2iCodeJockey wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

m2iCodeJockey wrote... 

If you are going to say I missed something, please be specific and possibly link in your counter.

It lists the populous of Earth before the invasion.
It states the 1.5M people being processed per day. 
It will take 11.7 years to process the populous of Earth.
How long would you say it took to build a Crucible?

That's quite topical. I could have scrutinized more.

You missed a lot in the basic lore like most of the things related to synthetics. 

What do synthetics have to do with what the codex said about Earth's populous and how long it takes to process them?
Please link an entry to support your point.

Hey you're the one that put up that codex entry not me.

[m2iCodeJockey]

Blueprotoss wrote...
Hey you're the one that put up that codex entry not me.

You haven't been specific. What lore is gone against?