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[Optimistman]

LuckyBullet95 wrote...

Optimistman wrote...
As for insults, he insulted me, i came back. Simple. I care not for being mature with those that act as children towards me. I'll throw salt right back into the eyes of the person that threw it at me.

I did not insult. I don't see any skillm in camping. There is a reason you can camp Geth but not run and gun Reapers...

"You should stop camping and become a decent player" - a quote from what you said.

It's an insult to assume i'm bad, deriding my player skill. It's takes more skill to camp than you think. Especialy with randoms. And once again geth=campable=reapers are harder. You have proved my point 3 times so far.

[LuckyBullet95]

Optimistman wrote...

1. possible for 15> people. Yeah, you make a great point.
2. *Facepalm*
3.*Facepalm*
4.Ok good for you, now once again shut up.

1. Actually Team AreleX is a group of 160 X-Box players. All of which have been trained by the best speedrunners on 360 to be able to run these kinds of things... So it's more than 15 actually... Team AreleX is called a "speedrun group" for a reason...

2. Really? You use a strawman comment against me and then facepalm when I do the exact same thing to you?

3. Really? I bring up legitimate points about Camping (we did a three man camp in the basement of shame with a Slayer, Justicar and Gethgineer, started running and gunning after Wave 5 because of how boring it is. Full Extraction in 26 minutes. Not bad given how we were specifically catered to buffing the Slayer. And yes my easiest game ever came four months ago when I sucked at this game. Now I have been taught by AreleX, Relix and Bechter and still learn from the rest of Team AreleX on how to run and gun, it is very easy to camp; period. And the problem with stunlock is that these classes don't recover from the stagger quick enough before being staggered again. This same thing can indeed happen to quicker classes at times. If they can get staggered they can get stunlocked...

4. You tell me to shut up but continue to **** about a point we already had proven wrong? Reapers are easy to speedrun against, the strategy is solid and can be done with most classes. technically all although they won't obviously be speedruns...  The Demolisher is in fact more viable than most classes due to Homing Grenade and Arc Grenade... Not to mention a Reegar, Claymore, Harrier etc,

[Geek]

Not much point in arguing Goosh, we'll get the video done.

[LuckyBullet95]

Optimistman wrote...

LuckyBullet95 wrote...

Optimistman wrote...
As for insults, he insulted me, i came back. Simple. I care not for being mature with those that act as children towards me. I'll throw salt right back into the eyes of the person that threw it at me.

I did not insult. I don't see any skillm in camping. There is a reason you can camp Geth but not run and gun Reapers...

"You should stop camping and become a decent player" - a quote from what you said.

It's an insult to assume i'm bad, deriding my player skill. It's takes more skill to camp than you think. Especialy with randoms. And once again geth=campable=reapers are harder. You have proved my point 3 times so far.

So you are now going on record to saying running and gunning is harder than camping? Nice to know that you just accepted that what I said wasn't an insult. If camping is easier than running and gunning and you need to camp to beat Geth and can't even beat Reapers when running and gunning you just proved that you are indeed unskilled...

[LuckyBullet95]

rymoulton wrote...

Not much point in arguing Goosh, we'll get the video done.

I know but this guy is actually saying that I insulted him... I never. It's true that camping takes less skill than running and gunning otherwise he would be able to run and gun Reapers... Hell I beat Reaper Gold ONLY using the Flamer in 20 minutes... That was without much rocketting (I don't remember any but according to Tatty Tidal used a few so...) and no guns, or Cluster Nades...

[Optimistman]

LuckyBullet95 wrote...

Optimistman wrote...

1. possible for 15> people. Yeah, you make a great point.
2. *Facepalm*
3.*Facepalm*
4.Ok good for you, now once again shut up.

1. Actually Team AreleX is a group of 160 X-Box players. All of which have been trained by the best speedrunners on 360 to be able to run these kinds of things... So it's more than 15 actually... Team AreleX is called a "speedrun group" for a reason...

2. Really? You use a strawman comment against me and then facepalm when I do the exact same thing to you?

3. Really? I bring up legitimate points about Camping (we did a three man camp in the basement of shame with a Slayer, Justicar and Gethgineer, started running and gunning after Wave 5 because of how boring it is. Full Extraction in 26 minutes. Not bad given how we were specifically catered to buffing the Slayer. And yes my easiest game ever came four months ago when I sucked at this game. Now I have been taught by AreleX, Relix and Bechter and still learn from the rest of Team AreleX on how to run and gun, it is very easy to camp; period. And the problem with stunlock is that these classes don't recover from the stagger quick enough before being staggered again. This same thing can indeed happen to quicker classes at times. If they can get staggered they can get stunlocked...

4. You tell me to shut up but continue to **** about a point we already had proven wrong? Reapers are easy to speedrun against, the strategy is solid and can be done with most classes. technically all although they won't obviously be speedruns...  The Demolisher is in fact more viable than most classes due to Homing Grenade and Arc Grenade... Not to mention a Reegar, Claymore, Harrier etc,

Tell me when reapers are the only faction people choose to camp against. Tell me when banshees stop magnet-grabbing. Tell me when reapers become only rushdown. Tell me when geth can throw grenades, take you out of an entire game permanently, when half of them are composed of armor, when they have primes that can teleport, when they flush you out of cover by pure force. Most importantly, tell me when that demo vid is up, cause until then you're on ignore list. I see you can't teach an idiot, i'll stop trying.

[upinya slayin]

Optimistman wrote...

LuckyBullet95 wrote...

Optimistman wrote...
As for insults, he insulted me, i came back. Simple. I care not for being mature with those that act as children towards me. I'll throw salt right back into the eyes of the person that threw it at me.

I did not insult. I don't see any skillm in camping. There is a reason you can camp Geth but not run and gun Reapers...

"You should stop camping and become a decent player" - a quote from what you said.

It's an insult to assume i'm bad, deriding my player skill. It's takes more skill to camp than you think. Especialy with randoms. And once again geth=campable=reapers are harder. You have proved my point 3 times so far.

reapers are easier in the open by far. have you ever used a batarian soldier on geth and goddess? you sepdn 90% of teh game being stunlocked. now try it with reapers. its easy.

Also camping doens't take skill but it helps player progression. you start bronze camping, then move on to bronze rambo, then silver camp, then silver rambo, then gold camp, then gold rambo, then platinum camp, then platinum rambo If you never try it you'll never be able.

But regardless to say somehting is impossible is not true. it all depends on skill. I'm not an elite player and i can speedrun platinum now thanks to the help i got from some good people from team arelex.

[upinya slayin]

Optimistman wrote...

LuckyBullet95 wrote...

Optimistman wrote...

1. possible for 15> people. Yeah, you make a great point.
2. *Facepalm*
3.*Facepalm*
4.Ok good for you, now once again shut up.

1. Actually Team AreleX is a group of 160 X-Box players. All of which have been trained by the best speedrunners on 360 to be able to run these kinds of things... So it's more than 15 actually... Team AreleX is called a "speedrun group" for a reason...

2. Really? You use a strawman comment against me and then facepalm when I do the exact same thing to you?

3. Really? I bring up legitimate points about Camping (we did a three man camp in the basement of shame with a Slayer, Justicar and Gethgineer, started running and gunning after Wave 5 because of how boring it is. Full Extraction in 26 minutes. Not bad given how we were specifically catered to buffing the Slayer. And yes my easiest game ever came four months ago when I sucked at this game. Now I have been taught by AreleX, Relix and Bechter and still learn from the rest of Team AreleX on how to run and gun, it is very easy to camp; period. And the problem with stunlock is that these classes don't recover from the stagger quick enough before being staggered again. This same thing can indeed happen to quicker classes at times. If they can get staggered they can get stunlocked...

4. You tell me to shut up but continue to **** about a point we already had proven wrong? Reapers are easy to speedrun against, the strategy is solid and can be done with most classes. technically all although they won't obviously be speedruns...  The Demolisher is in fact more viable than most classes due to Homing Grenade and Arc Grenade... Not to mention a Reegar, Claymore, Harrier etc,

Tell me when reapers are the only faction people choose to camp against. Tell me when banshees stop magnet-grabbing. Tell me when reapers become only rushdown. Tell me when geth can throw grenades, take you out of an entire game permanently, when half of them are composed of armor, when they have primes that can teleport, when they flush you out of cover by pure force. Most importantly, tell me when that demo vid is up, cause until then you're on ignore list. I see you can't teach an idiot, i'll stop trying.

doing a gold match on reapers last night i held off 2 banshees, 2 brutes, and 1 ravager w/o dying while my teammte did all 4 devices then killed them when he was done. ramps and stairs make banshee magnet grabs nearly impossible.

[LuckyBullet95]

Optimistman wrote...

Tell me when reapers are the only faction people choose to camp against. Tell me when banshees stop magnet-grabbing. Tell me when reapers become only rushdown. Tell me when geth can throw grenades, take you out of an entire game permanently, when half of them are composed of armor, when they have primes that can teleport, when they flush you out of cover by pure force. Most importantly, tell me when that demo vid is up, cause until then you're on ignore list. I see you can't teach an idiot, i'll stop trying.

Laughing so hard at this comment... it's just hilariously stupid... your arguments for why Reapers are hard is "you can't camp them"? You're a worse player than I thought... It'll probably be up tomorrow. Obviously Geekfest and Bech are at work and the vid needs uploaded.

[Optimistman]

upinya slayin wrote...

Optimistman wrote...

LuckyBullet95 wrote...

Optimistman wrote...
As for insults, he insulted me, i came back. Simple. I care not for being mature with those that act as children towards me. I'll throw salt right back into the eyes of the person that threw it at me.

I did not insult. I don't see any skillm in camping. There is a reason you can camp Geth but not run and gun Reapers...

"You should stop camping and become a decent player" - a quote from what you said.

It's an insult to assume i'm bad, deriding my player skill. It's takes more skill to camp than you think. Especialy with randoms. And once again geth=campable=reapers are harder. You have proved my point 3 times so far.

reapers are easier in the open by far. have you ever used a batarian soldier on geth and goddess? you sepdn 90% of teh game being stunlocked. now try it with reapers. its easy.

Also camping doens't take skill but it helps player progression. you start bronze camping, then move on to bronze rambo, then silver camp, then silver rambo, then gold camp, then gold rambo, then platinum camp, then platinum rambo If you never try it you'll never be able.

But regardless to say somehting is impossible is not true. it all depends on skill. I'm not an elite player and i can speedrun platinum now thanks to the help i got from some good people from team arelex.

Choosing batarian or krogan against geth- your fault. Choosing tech agains reapers - my fault. Choosing batarians, krogans and still dying against reapers- something is very wrong here.

Looking over choke points and making sure nothing gets near you takes skill. Especially without communication. Maybe not as much, but it still takes skill. Saying it doesn't is unreasonably ignorant. Trying to make the game harder intentionally by choosing to run and gun - boredom i guess you can say, but whatever enjoy yourself.

Modifié par Optimistman, 16 août 2012 - 06:51 .

[upinya slayin]

LuckyBullet95 wrote...

Optimistman wrote...

Tell me when reapers are the only faction people choose to camp against. Tell me when banshees stop magnet-grabbing. Tell me when reapers become only rushdown. Tell me when geth can throw grenades, take you out of an entire game permanently, when half of them are composed of armor, when they have primes that can teleport, when they flush you out of cover by pure force. Most importantly, tell me when that demo vid is up, cause until then you're on ignore list. I see you can't teach an idiot, i'll stop trying.

Laughing so hard at this comment... it's just hilariously stupid... your arguments for why Reapers are hard is "you can't camp them"? You're a worse player than I thought... It'll probably be up tomorrow. Obviously Geekfest and Bech are at work and the vid needs uploaded.

so he doens't know that banshees get stuck on the counter on FBW?

[Optimistman]

upinya slayin wrote...

LuckyBullet95 wrote...

Optimistman wrote...

Tell me when reapers are the only faction people choose to camp against. Tell me when banshees stop magnet-grabbing. Tell me when reapers become only rushdown. Tell me when geth can throw grenades, take you out of an entire game permanently, when half of them are composed of armor, when they have primes that can teleport, when they flush you out of cover by pure force. Most importantly, tell me when that demo vid is up, cause until then you're on ignore list. I see you can't teach an idiot, i'll stop trying.

Laughing so hard at this comment... it's just hilariously stupid... your arguments for why Reapers are hard is "you can't camp them"? You're a worse player than I thought... It'll probably be up tomorrow. Obviously Geekfest and Bech are at work and the vid needs uploaded.

so he doens't know that banshees get stuck on the counter on FBW?

Assuming that everyone that complains about reapers obivous opness camps FBW shows how stupid you are and most of the bsn community at that part.

Hold on

*Scratches on ignore list*

Done.

[LuckyBullet95]

upinya slayin wrote...

Also camping doens't take skill but it helps player progression. you start bronze camping, then move on to bronze rambo, then silver camp, then silver rambo, then gold camp, then gold rambo, then platinum camp, then platinum rambo If you never try it you'll never be able.

But regardless to say somehting is impossible is not true. it all depends on skill. I'm not an elite player and i can speedrun platinum now thanks to the help i got from some good people from team arelex.

To be fair I jumped straight into a Platinum rambo match 10 minutes after the DLC was installed and got partial extraction 24 minutes first try... That was only so slow because we were hesitant to use missiles and gel too early in case we needed them later... (SPOILERS ALERT;  We didn't). I do agree it comes to simply jumping in to a run and gun playstyle.I first started ramboing after watching the early speedruns and then got in with AreleX and co. before Team AreleX was created.

[upinya slayin]

Optimistman wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

Optimistman wrote...

LuckyBullet95 wrote...

Optimistman wrote...
As for insults, he insulted me, i came back. Simple. I care not for being mature with those that act as children towards me. I'll throw salt right back into the eyes of the person that threw it at me.

I did not insult. I don't see any skillm in camping. There is a reason you can camp Geth but not run and gun Reapers...

"You should stop camping and become a decent player" - a quote from what you said.

It's an insult to assume i'm bad, deriding my player skill. It's takes more skill to camp than you think. Especialy with randoms. And once again geth=campable=reapers are harder. You have proved my point 3 times so far.

reapers are easier in the open by far. have you ever used a batarian soldier on geth and goddess? you sepdn 90% of teh game being stunlocked. now try it with reapers. its easy.

Also camping doens't take skill but it helps player progression. you start bronze camping, then move on to bronze rambo, then silver camp, then silver rambo, then gold camp, then gold rambo, then platinum camp, then platinum rambo If you never try it you'll never be able.

But regardless to say somehting is impossible is not true. it all depends on skill. I'm not an elite player and i can speedrun platinum now thanks to the help i got from some good people from team arelex.

Choosing batarian or krogan against geth- your fault. Choosing tech agains reapers - my fault. Choosing batarians, krogans and still dying against reapers- something is very wrong here.

Looking over choke points and making sure nothing gets near you takes skill. Especially without communication. Maybe not as much, but it still takes skills. Saying it doesn't is unreasonably ignorant. Trying to make the game harder intentionally by choosing to run and gun - boredom i guess you can say, but whatever enjoy yourself.

I don't choose. picking an optimal layout eevry game on a set map and enemy isn't fun. I always do unknown unknown unless i'm doing a challenge and i play with a different character every game. Camping to me sin't fun anymore. my first gold was a FBWGG game and i thought it was intense. Now i run and gun and have toruble finding things to kill on gold. its not tough at all but you have to try it and get comfortbale being out in the open. use alot of soft cover too. Also i used to think you needed to camp on gold and communcate. now i'll run gold with 3 randoms w/o mics cause it doens't matter. and yes i'll run around and rambo even if they cmap becuase camping is boring. But you'll never realize that if you don't at least give it a try

[upinya slayin]

Optimistman wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

LuckyBullet95 wrote...

Optimistman wrote...

Tell me when reapers are the only faction people choose to camp against. Tell me when banshees stop magnet-grabbing. Tell me when reapers become only rushdown. Tell me when geth can throw grenades, take you out of an entire game permanently, when half of them are composed of armor, when they have primes that can teleport, when they flush you out of cover by pure force. Most importantly, tell me when that demo vid is up, cause until then you're on ignore list. I see you can't teach an idiot, i'll stop trying.

Laughing so hard at this comment... it's just hilariously stupid... your arguments for why Reapers are hard is "you can't camp them"? You're a worse player than I thought... It'll probably be up tomorrow. Obviously Geekfest and Bech are at work and the vid needs uploaded.

so he doens't know that banshees get stuck on the counter on FBW?

Assuming that everyone that complains about reapers obivous opness camps FBW shows how stupid you are and most of the bsn community at that part.

Hold on

*Scratches on ignore list*

Done.

so are you saying that they don't get stuck on counters?

[LuckyBullet95]

upinya slayin wrote...

LuckyBullet95 wrote...

Optimistman wrote...

Tell me when reapers are the only faction people choose to camp against. Tell me when banshees stop magnet-grabbing. Tell me when reapers become only rushdown. Tell me when geth can throw grenades, take you out of an entire game permanently, when half of them are composed of armor, when they have primes that can teleport, when they flush you out of cover by pure force. Most importantly, tell me when that demo vid is up, cause until then you're on ignore list. I see you can't teach an idiot, i'll stop trying.

Laughing so hard at this comment... it's just hilariously stupid... your arguments for why Reapers are hard is "you can't camp them"? You're a worse player than I thought... It'll probably be up tomorrow. Obviously Geekfest and Bech are at work and the vid needs uploaded.

so he doens't know that banshees get stuck on the counter on FBW?

When I was a camper like him I simply kited them out the backdoor and slaughtered them there. If you're pushed to far back just head to another camp spot. Hardly difficult...

[tetsutsuru]

upinya slayin wrote...

LuckyBullet95 wrote...

Optimistman wrote...

Tell me when reapers are the only faction people choose to camp against. Tell me when banshees stop magnet-grabbing. Tell me when reapers become only rushdown. Tell me when geth can throw grenades, take you out of an entire game permanently, when half of them are composed of armor, when they have primes that can teleport, when they flush you out of cover by pure force. Most importantly, tell me when that demo vid is up, cause until then you're on ignore list. I see you can't teach an idiot, i'll stop trying.

Laughing so hard at this comment... it's just hilariously stupid... your arguments for why Reapers are hard is "you can't camp them"? You're a worse player than I thought... It'll probably be up tomorrow. Obviously Geekfest and Bech are at work and the vid needs uploaded.

so he doens't know that banshees get stuck on the counter on FBW?

Also the counters on Glacier (bottom of the long ramp) and Giant (first one nearest the front ramp) too.

[upinya slayin]

LuckyBullet95 wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

Also camping doens't take skill but it helps player progression. you start bronze camping, then move on to bronze rambo, then silver camp, then silver rambo, then gold camp, then gold rambo, then platinum camp, then platinum rambo If you never try it you'll never be able.

But regardless to say somehting is impossible is not true. it all depends on skill. I'm not an elite player and i can speedrun platinum now thanks to the help i got from some good people from team arelex.

To be fair I jumped straight into a Platinum rambo match 10 minutes after the DLC was installed and got partial extraction 24 minutes first try... That was only so slow because we were hesitant to use missiles and gel too early in case we needed them later... (SPOILERS ALERT;  We didn't). I do agree it comes to simply jumping in to a run and gun playstyle.I first started ramboing after watching the early speedruns and then got in with AreleX and co. before Team AreleX was created.

I didn't speedrun platinum until i played with geekfest. he was the 1st one I did it with. now i feel good about it. we did a platinum on jade and geth with 4 party rifles last night and it was smooth and easy. even though i put the wrong mod on mine and had no ammo for my party rifle

[ToaOrka]

No faction is "Hard". It depends on what class you're playing as. Drell Adept destroys Reapers and Cerberus, but can get ****ed over against Geth since Reave won't give him the Damage Reduction, which is what a lot of people spec for.

[LuckyBullet95]

upinya slayin wrote...

LuckyBullet95 wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

Also camping doens't take skill but it helps player progression. you start bronze camping, then move on to bronze rambo, then silver camp, then silver rambo, then gold camp, then gold rambo, then platinum camp, then platinum rambo If you never try it you'll never be able.

But regardless to say somehting is impossible is not true. it all depends on skill. I'm not an elite player and i can speedrun platinum now thanks to the help i got from some good people from team arelex.

To be fair I jumped straight into a Platinum rambo match 10 minutes after the DLC was installed and got partial extraction 24 minutes first try... That was only so slow because we were hesitant to use missiles and gel too early in case we needed them later... (SPOILERS ALERT;  We didn't). I do agree it comes to simply jumping in to a run and gun playstyle.I first started ramboing after watching the early speedruns and then got in with AreleX and co. before Team AreleX was created.

I didn't speedrun platinum until i played with geekfest. he was the 1st one I did it with. now i feel good about it. we did a platinum on jade and geth with 4 party rifles last night and it was smooth and easy. even though i put the wrong mod on mine and had no ammo for my party rifle

I remember doing a Geth/Giant/Platinum Destroyer Particle Rifle match, fun times...

P.S. Love how we completely hi-jacked this thread

Modifié par LuckyBullet95, 16 août 2012 - 07:00 .

[upinya slayin]

LuckyBullet95 wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

LuckyBullet95 wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

Also camping doens't take skill but it helps player progression. you start bronze camping, then move on to bronze rambo, then silver camp, then silver rambo, then gold camp, then gold rambo, then platinum camp, then platinum rambo If you never try it you'll never be able.

But regardless to say somehting is impossible is not true. it all depends on skill. I'm not an elite player and i can speedrun platinum now thanks to the help i got from some good people from team arelex.

To be fair I jumped straight into a Platinum rambo match 10 minutes after the DLC was installed and got partial extraction 24 minutes first try... That was only so slow because we were hesitant to use missiles and gel too early in case we needed them later... (SPOILERS ALERT;  We didn't). I do agree it comes to simply jumping in to a run and gun playstyle.I first started ramboing after watching the early speedruns and then got in with AreleX and co. before Team AreleX was created.

I didn't speedrun platinum until i played with geekfest. he was the 1st one I did it with. now i feel good about it. we did a platinum on jade and geth with 4 party rifles last night and it was smooth and easy. even though i put the wrong mod on mine and had no ammo for my party rifle

I remember doing a Geth/Giant/Platinum Destroyer Particle Rifle match, fun times...

P.S. Love how we completely hi-jacked this thread

Team Arelex FTW

[FlowCytometry]

To look into all these claims that camping classes are doomed vs. Reapers and SKs are hard and stuff, I decided to play some Gold Reaper randoms w/ my Demo. All are pugs, I left after each match and re-queued to make sure.

Keep in mind, I'm not an elite player- I'm pretty average and def can*not* regularly carry people. I also rarely use the Demo since I just dun like the camping and grenade style, and I see so many others using her I hate to be redundant.

Anyways, since I can't vid cap on this PC, I took screens of the scoreboard- best I could do, sry.

First match on Goddess. I was obv a bit rusty w/ the class, and made some amateur mistakes, plus I hate Goddess as a map so that didn't help. Still, we finished it just fine, only used medi-gel alot, and didn't get grabbed once. Teammates: VSo w/ Reegar, KSo (stealing mah grenades! j/k) w/ a Claymore, and a KV w/ a Reegar (I think).


2nd match I got dropped in at the middle of wave 9 on Glacier (surrounded and w/ half the team already down- fun times). Still got to extraction no probs. Didn't count this match since 2 waves isn't really much of one.

3rd match on Reactor, w/ a great FQE w/ a Piranha (always like seeing them played well). Had a GI, but he was using a Reegar (not a great choice vs. Reapers due to the 50% armor penalty, but w/e). Did get grabbed here, but was after I got rezed near a Banshee so I couldn't do much about it. Team did fine otherwise.. until the very end when the FQE going down in the middle of everything outside the LZ caused a rez circle right at extraction. Oh well, still a 'success' in my book. Other teammate was a KSe.


4th match on Dagger. I was w/ another Demo and a nice aggressive AJ and Paladin. This match pretty was a simple camp n' spank w/ me and the other demo holding the top and the other 2 floating around as needed. Rushes in the top bunker were pretty quickly quelled w/ nade spam, tech bursts, and the AJ's bubble + splosions.


5th match on Ghost. This one went pretty smooth as well. Not really much to say other than it was a another good team and a good run. I did get grabbed once (after I got rezed, but this time I had a few sec to avoid the Banshee so that's my bad). Teammates: Shadow w/ Carnifex, GI w/ GPS, VSo w/ I forget.


And after that I got kinda tired of playing the Demo so I took a break.
All in all, not too bad at all. I played mostly run and gunning (like I usually do w/ my other classes)- using breaks in action or cover to place a pylon, get 2 nades, then keep moving. Also planted a pylon at any ammo box I was running past if I had the time. Rarely ran out of nades (when I did my Harrier did the work), and only used I think 3 thermals the whole time (one not needed since the area I was about to firebomb got missiled- sigh). Ravagers, Brutes, and Mauraders weren't much a problem, tbh, and I only got grabbed twice (though one was not really in my control)- in both cases it was near the end of a wave so no biggie. Not many consumabels used save for the 1st match where I was getting my bearings.

Got into a groove of handling Banshees by arc+homing spam them till they stop porting, then seek near cover, load 'em up w/ harrier bullets and drop a pylon; if/when she starts teleporting again resume grenading and shooting and evading till she dies. Pretty simple and effective.

Again: kinda average player, not an avid Demo user. Full Gold pugs, no GIs w/ Piranhas, didn't intentionally try to get Banshees on stairs or w/e, etc.

And I must thank the OP a lil for spurring me to try this. Playing a mobile hit and run Demo vs. Reaper is actually quite entertaining and pretty effective if done right. I must say I never really considered it before, but it was a fun romp while it lasted.

(edited for grammar)

Modifié par FlowCytometry, 16 août 2012 - 09:10 .

[Optimistman]

FlowCytometry wrote...

To look into all these claims that camping classes are doomed vs. Reapers and SKs are hard and stuff, I decided to play some Gold Reaper randoms w/ my Demo. All are pugs, I left after each match and re-queued to make sure.

Keep in mind, I'm not an elite player- I'm pretty average and def can*not* regularly carry people. I also rarely use the Demo since I just dun like the camping and grenade style, and I see so many others using her I hate to be redundant.

Anyways, since I can't vid cap on this PC, I took screens of the scoreboard- best I could do, sry.

First match on Goddess. I was obv a bit rusty w/ the class, and made some amateur mistakes, plus I hate Goddess as a map so that didn't help. Still, we finished it just fine, only used medi-gel alot, and didn't get grabbed once. Teammates: VSo w/ Reegar, KSo (stealing mah grenades! j/k) w/ a Claymore, and a KV w/ a Reegar (I think).


2nd match I got dropped in at the middle of wave 9 on Glacier (surrounded and w/ half the team already down- fun times). Still got to extraction no probs. Didn't count this match since 2 waves isn't really much of one.

3rd match on Reactor, w/ a great FQE w/ a Piranha (always like seeing them played well). Had a GI, but he was using a Reegar (not a great choice vs. Reapers due to the 50% armor penalty, but w/e). Did get grabbed here, but was after I got rezed near a Banshee so I couldn't do much about it. Team did fine otherwise.. until the very end when the FQE going down in the middle of everything outside the LZ caused a rez circle right at extraction. Oh well, still a 'success' in my book. Other teammate was a KSe.


4th match on Dagger. I was w/ another Demo and a nice aggressive AJ and Paladin. This match pretty was a simple camp n' spank w/ me and the other demo holding the top and the other 2 floating around as needed. Rushes in the top bunker were pretty quickly quelled w/ nade spam, tech bursts, and the AJ's bubble + splosions.


5th match on Ghost. This one went pretty smooth as well. Not really much to say other than it was a another good team and a good run. I did get grabbed once (after I got rezed, but this time I had a few sec to avoid the Banshee so that's my bad), but no biggie. Teammates: Shadow w/ Carnifex, GI w/ GPS, VSo w/ I forget.


And after that i got kinda tired of playing the Demo so I took a break.
All in all, not too bad at all. I played mostly run and gunning (like I usually do w/ my other classes)- using breaks in action or cover to place a pylon,. get 2 nades, then keep moving. Also planted a pylon at any ammo box I was running past if I had the time. Rarely ran out of nades (when I did my Harrier did the work), and only used I think 3 thermals the whole time (one not needed since the area I was about to firebomb got missiled- sigh). Ravagers, Brutes, and Mauraders weren't much a problem tbh, and I only got grabbed twice (though one was not really in my control)- in both cases it was near the end of a wave so no biggie. Not many consumabels used save for the 1st match where Iw as getting my bearings.

Got into a groove of handling Banshees by arc+homing spam them till they stop, seek near cover, load 'em up w/ harrier bullets and drop a pylon; if/when she starts teleporting again resume greanding and shooting till she dies. Pretty simple and effective.

Again: kinda average player, not an avid Demo user. Full Gold pugs, no GIs w/ Piranhas, didn't intentionally try to get Banshees on stairs or w/e, etc.

And I must thank the OP a lil for spurring me to try this. Playing a mobile hit and run Demo vs. Reaper is actually quite fun and pretty effective if done right. I must say I never considered it before, but it was a fun romp while it lasted.

**** reapers and i'm glad somebody is able to play them like that. But i can't and until i see a video, i won't believe it. They are just too much bull**** compared to everything else. Their frustrating as hell, they aren't fun. Geth and cereberus are fun. Not friggin unstoppable rushing monsters of doom.

[FlowCytometry]

Yeah I woulda liked to record for ya, but lack the hardware on this PC. Sry man :/
Hopefully the others can have some vids up.

[CmnDwnWrkn]

So much ignorance in this thread. Talking about "camping is easy" and "run and gun" is hard, as if you can only play all one way or the other. The real skill is in adapting to enemies and situations and figuring out how to best respond based on the situation at hand. If you've "graduated" from "camping," this tells me you're not as skilled as you think, because it seems you can only do one or the other.