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[Optimistman]

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

Optimistman wrote...

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

Optimistman wrote...

Most people are saying the geth are difficult because they are cheap but forget that after you die, you can get back up to get back into the right relatively easy. The geth also don't negate powers, have stupid damage reduction, and only two of their troops have armor. You shoot at geth they die; you throw grenades at geth they die. That's not difficult compared to throwing a grenade and it getting block or shooting and the enemy charging right through it.

A Hunter is immune to most powers when he's invisible (your powers go through him), can't be stopped from shooting, can stop you from doing anything (going into cover, shooting, using powers) when his blast hits you, and Pyro's are arguably as dangerous as Phantoms if they stand over your downed body.

Grenades completely solve the problem of hunters and grenade stagger seems to work differently than power stagger against them (meaning grenades will actually stop them from shooting, more specifically arc grenades).
Pyros don't insta-kill you on wake-up.

Lets just hope your handful of grenades lasts 10 rounds then, and that you aren't flushed out of cover or stopped from reaching the ammo packs due to stunlock and sniper Pyro range.

Yeah, that's usually how i beat geth 90% of the time.

[Kalas Magnus]

Optimistman wrote...

Kalas321 wrote...

 What class are you using? Try playing the batarian soldier against the geth. Never again for me.

class tiers play heavily in this game. For example use the asari adept/vanguard can annihilate cerberus with little to no effort.(stasis->headshot) However, against reapers the Human sentinel has higher survivability and deals greater damage. If you want to destroy the geth though you'll have to use engineers/infiltrators. The salarian and quarian males have no problem when dealing with the flashlights. 

I find cerberus and reapers to be the easiest because every unit is easily deal with except banshees and phantoms. I mean c'mon the atlas is just target practice.

That's the point, you can at least pick certain classes and annihilate geth. No classes work as effeciently as that against reapers. None.

Use biotics. Any adept will do. The justicar is great for dealing with the ardak-yakshi.

[upinya slayin]

mistervirginia wrote...

i prefer Geth. then Reapers. then Cerberus. i just hate the Guardians mostly.

guardians are the easiest enemy. please tell me you are being sarcastic

[Zardoc]

Hunters (who can fire while using their melee and while staggered) who rush you in packs, simply running around your cover with stunlocks, RTs that stunlock you, shoot several rockets at once and attack and hit you with their backs turned to you, Pyros with bugged range and Primes spamming turrets every 2 seconds which deal obscene amounts of damage.

Yeah no, I'd rather deal with Cerberus and the Reapers. The only ones who should be overjoyed fighting the geth are Kroguards.

Modifié par Zardoc, 14 août 2012 - 09:30 .

[Lord Rosario]

Optimistman wrote...

Kalas321 wrote...

 What class are you using? Try playing the batarian soldier against the geth. Never again for me.

class tiers play heavily in this game. For example use the asari adept/vanguard can annihilate cerberus with little to no effort.(stasis->headshot) However, against reapers the Human sentinel has higher survivability and deals greater damage. If you want to destroy the geth though you'll have to use engineers/infiltrators. The salarian and quarian males have no problem when dealing with the flashlights. 

I find cerberus and reapers to be the easiest because every unit is easily deal with except banshees and phantoms. I mean c'mon the atlas is just target practice.

That's the point, you can at least pick certain classes and annihilate geth. No classes work as effeciently as that against reapers. None.

Biotics wreak them. Guns also tend to kill them, just make sure to have soe sort of armor piercing. Really, Banshees are the only thing that make Reapers even slightly a pain.

[K_Os2]

tl;dr

Geth are not the easiest, they're the safest (i.e. camp friendly) to play against because they have no synch kills.

Reapers are much more easier to deal with than geth other than the sneaky marauder none of their units pose a threat. Find some stairs and the banshee is a joke, ravager is also sneaky but squishy so that isn't even a problem. The rest is just trash.

[Rifneno]

upinya slayin wrote...

mistervirginia wrote...

i prefer Geth. then Reapers. then Cerberus. i just hate the Guardians mostly.

guardians are the easiest enemy. please tell me you are being sarcastic

Guardians are easy, but if you're not an excellent shot and have no way to bypass their shield, they can be a big pain in the ass.

[Rifneno]

K_Os2 wrote...

tl;dr

Geth are not the easiest, they're the safest (i.e. camp friendly) to play against because they have no synch kills.

Reapers are much more easier to deal with than geth other than the sneaky marauder none of their units pose a threat. Find some stairs and the banshee is a joke, ravager is also sneaky but squishy so that isn't even a problem. The rest is just trash.

Is anyone else just learning that trick now?  Because I've been playing several hours a day on average for 4 months and I'm only just now learning that ramps are banshee kryptonite.

[FlowCytometry]

So... just had a rnadom gold pug, eneded up on Rio vs. Geth. Reminded me why I hate this faction w/ a passion (to be fair, half the team insisted on middle camping- baaaad idea). We (barely) got to a wave 10 hack in that middle area... HAHAHAHAHAH shoot me now! geezus christ it was torture.

Modifié par FlowCytometry, 14 août 2012 - 09:46 .

[Kirrahe Airlines CEO]

BoomDynamite wrote...

How are Geth easier than Cerberus?

I'm in the same boat dude. I personally consider reapers the easiest faction. I hate geth and their wanted rockets, hunters still popping off shots after getting stunned, primes throwing turrets behind players, pyros animation and range don't match.

[Kenshen]

Hunters even cloaked are not slow. Rocket troopers that can spam missiles and even bend them around corners is just cheap. Stun locking is just stupid. Pyro's that can burn you beyond the reach of the flame is lame. Turrets are just all kinds of evil. If you like grab kills then yes they are a god send.

[N7-RedFox]

Optimistman wrote...

After playing multple matches of reapers and cerberus because for some ****ING unknown reason people seem to like to play these over geth nowadays, i had to get my mind out about this subject.

Why do people think geth are the hardest faction? Geth don't rush you down to the point in which cover is taken out as a factor in the game. They can't ninja sprint at you or biotic charge towards you. They're SLOW and you can at least see them coming. They have no sync-kills.................HOW IS THIS DIFFICULT.

It's hard to believe that people are completely naive to the fact that the reapers are insanely imbalanced right now.

For main reason: There should be no enemy type in which half of the units can rush you down with brute strength/melee and have units that can snipe you or shoot you down. It's stupid.

I have had too many games today in which i have been chased out of cover from stupid ass banshees and brutes to only land into the fire of ravagers and marauders. It's beyond frustrating; it's beyond maddening.  Cerberus aren't nearly as bad as reapers in my opinion but one slip up against them and you might as well call it quits. Turrets and phantoms have the excessive potential to keep you down when you go down which makes medi-gels almost meaningless when you don't have your team around you.

I'm not saying geth are easy. But they are much more doable without constant frustration.


Edit:
Most people are saying the geth are difficult because they are cheap but forget that after you die, you can get back up to get back into the fight relatively easy. The geth also don't negate powers, have stupid damage reduction, and only two of their troops have armor. You shoot at geth they die; you throw grenades at geth they die. That's not difficult compared to throwing a grenade and it getting blocked or shooting and the enemy charging right through it.

You clearly don't play as Krogan Sentinal/Soldier, Batarian Sentinal/Soldier, Turian Sentinal/Soldier very often against Geth i take it?

1) Pyros can hit u while ur in cover

2) Hunters can hit u while ur in cover

3) Primes fire solid turrets through solid walls so that they land behind u every time and kill you. They have 0% cooldown on throwing another turret immediately after you kill one.

4) Hunters/Pyros/Geth Rocket Troopers/Primes totally ignore cloak (whether you did it out of sight behind a corner or not)

5) Hunters will mass stunlock you and cause your reload animation to fail several times in succession. You also can't shoot back even if your gun is loaded. You cannot use a power to save yourself. You cannot use an ops pack to reboost your health and shields.

6) Primes ^^^^ same as above

7) Geth Rocket Troopers can fire missiles through solid walls. They can also target you before they've even immerged from around a corner. They can also fire a missile at you with pin-point accuracy while they're facing the opposition direction to where you're standing (behind them).

They're not difficult, OP you're right. They're just a bunch of cheating cockroaches is all.

Modifié par CaptainTeabag, 14 août 2012 - 09:37 .

[Optimistman]

K_Os2 wrote...

tl;dr

Geth are not the easiest, they're the safest (i.e. camp friendly) to play against because they have no synch kills.

Reapers are much more easier to deal with than geth other than the sneaky marauder none of their units pose a threat. Find some stairs and the banshee is a joke, ravager is also sneaky but squishy so that isn't even a problem. The rest is just trash.

Yes, you can camp against them. Point? You are just proving mines much further.  There's nothing squishy about the reapers and that's one of their main strengths. Most of their units are armored, and two of them shielded/barried(if that's a word). And intentionally moving towards stairs is stupid, you're going to either get slapped by a brute eventually or killed by the banshee that can still melee you. Have you ever seen anyone camp stairs?

[Optimistman]

CaptainTeabag wrote...

Optimistman wrote...

After playing multple matches of reapers and cerberus because for some ****ING unknown reason people seem to like to play these over geth nowadays, i had to get my mind out about this subject.

Why do people think geth are the hardest faction? Geth don't rush you down to the point in which cover is taken out as a factor in the game. They can't ninja sprint at you or biotic charge towards you. They're SLOW and you can at least see them coming. They have no sync-kills.................HOW IS THIS DIFFICULT.

It's hard to believe that people are completely naive to the fact that the reapers are insanely imbalanced right now.

For main reason: There should be no enemy type in which half of the units can rush you down with brute strength/melee and have units that can snipe you or shoot you down. It's stupid.

I have had too many games today in which i have been chased out of cover from stupid ass banshees and brutes to only land into the fire of ravagers and marauders. It's beyond frustrating; it's beyond maddening.  Cerberus aren't nearly as bad as reapers in my opinion but one slip up against them and you might as well call it quits. Turrets and phantoms have the excessive potential to keep you down when you go down which makes medi-gels almost meaningless when you don't have your team around you.

I'm not saying geth are easy. But they are much more doable without constant frustration.


Edit:
Most people are saying the geth are difficult because they are cheap but forget that after you die, you can get back up to get back into the fight relatively easy. The geth also don't negate powers, have stupid damage reduction, and only two of their troops have armor. You shoot at geth they die; you throw grenades at geth they die. That's not difficult compared to throwing a grenade and it getting blocked or shooting and the enemy charging right through it.

You clearly don't play as Krogan Sentinal/Soldier, Batarian Sentinal/Soldier, Turian Sentinal/Soldier very often against Geth i take it?

1) Pyros can hit u while ur in cover

2) Hunters can hit u while ur in cover

3) Primes fire solid turrets through solid walls so that they land behind u every time and kill you. They have 0% cooldown on throwing another turret immediately after you kill one.

4) Hunters/Pyros/Geth Rocket Troopers/Primes totally ignore cloak (whether you did it out of sight behind a corner or not)

5) Hunters will mass stunlock you and cause your reload animation to fail several times in succession. You also can't shoot back even if your gun is loaded. You cannot use a power to save yourself. You cannot use an ops pack to reboost your health and shields.

6) Primes ^^^^ same as above

7) Geth Rocket Troopers can fire missiles through solid walls. They can also target you before they've even immerged from around a corner. They can also fire a missile at you with pin-point accuracy while they're facing the opposition direction to where you're standing (behind them).

They're not difficult, OP you're right. They're just a bunch of cheating cockroaches is all.

No, i don't play as any of those classes. In fact, when going against geth I make sure i have something tech to take them down with. When fighting reapers it doesn't matter how i prepare, I get owned.

[MagicThoughts]

Krogan vanguard vs geth. gg no re.

[Tankcommander]

skygtr350 wrote...

Love getting shot by a Hunter who's staring at the ceiling after getting stunned.

Geth are ultra cheap. They aren't hard, they are super frustrating because they cheat on everything. I'd much rather play Platinum Cerberus and Reapers at the same time than Gold geth.

[Optimistman]

MagicThoughts wrote...

Krogan vanguard vs geth. gg no re.

Lol, this.

[eye basher]

People just don't get that without the cheap stuff the geth would be a joke just like they were when the game came out they were the cake faction.

[rmccowen]

Optimistman wrote...

No, i don't play as any of those classes. In fact, when going against geth I make sure i have something tech to take them down with. When fighting reapers it doesn't matter how i prepare, I get owned.

Reapers don't have shield gate--and in fact, they only have one shielded unit at all. Biotics will destroy Reapers, quickly and very consistently. Biotics are less effective against Cerberus (although still effective), and noticeably less effective against Geth--who only have one unit that isn't shielded.

If you always play tech classes against Geth, and you have a relatively stationary play style, then they're likely easier for you--particularly if you have a lot of trouble with sync kills and rarely play biotic classes. But in general, Geth are a pack of cheating dogs.

[I Tsunayoshi I]

Call me a Slowpoke, but Geth do have the fact they can stunlock the hell out of you on their side, which is much harder to deal with than a bunch of rushdowns.

[Lord Rosario]

If you're going to ignore the Geth's strengths and only pay attention to what they are lacking in while also ignoring the existence of any weaponry or ablities that almost completely IGNORE the armor on the reapers, then this is a hopeless arguement.

Reapers have armor, many of them move fast but can't do much until they are very close. Thing is, they are easy to avoid. Murauders are the only exception and they still can't compare to any of the geth's longer range attacks. Ravangers can shoot similarly to Primes but they lack shields and can't shoot over cover and will often just stand and stare at you while you shoot them, even on Platinum. Banshees can teleport to you and kill you, but a tall, screaming, glowing blue, naked woman, popping across the map is hardly stealthy enough to cause much havok on anyone who is paying the tiniest bit of attention.

Do us all a favor and do a Geth match on Gold ANYWHERE besides firebase white and make sure to try and run around as you would against reapers with a nice, big, heavy class that would also be great against those Reapers. When you find that your ability to run, shoot, use powers, or even switch to your missile launcher are rendered completely useless due to stunlocking, then let us all know what method you used to do so, because I'm sure we are all dying to know.

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[Kalas Magnus]

Lord Rosario wrote...

Optimistman wrote...

Kalas321 wrote...

 What class are you using? Try playing the batarian soldier against the geth. Never again for me.

class tiers play heavily in this game. For example use the asari adept/vanguard can annihilate cerberus with little to no effort.(stasis->headshot) However, against reapers the Human sentinel has higher survivability and deals greater damage. If you want to destroy the geth though you'll have to use engineers/infiltrators. The salarian and quarian males have no problem when dealing with the flashlights. 

I find cerberus and reapers to be the easiest because every unit is easily deal with except banshees and phantoms. I mean c'mon the atlas is just target practice.

That's the point, you can at least pick certain classes and annihilate geth. No classes work as effeciently as that against reapers. None.

Biotics wreak them. Guns also tend to kill them, just make sure to have soe sort of armor piercing. Really, Banshees are the only thing that make Reapers even slightly a pain.

Yep. if she didnt have her magnet hands everyone would pick reapers. :happy:

[OniGanon]

The Geth barrage you with rapid fire homing rockets and Prime siege pulse of stunlockiness to force you into cover. Meanwhile they send the relatively durable Hunters and Pyros with dangerous close range ability to murder you while you cower, while the Prime moves slowly but inexorably onward.

If you can shut yourself off from a lot of the long range barrage, and put out enough damage that you can cut down the enemies before they reach you, the Geth are cake. That's partly why FBW works so well.

If you get flanked or overrun, though, you're screwed. You're utterly shafted and almost nothing short of a particularly quick-thinking teammate's Cobra rocket on your corpse is going to save you.

In short, the Geth have the simplest, most straightforward strategy for beating you, and in turn are the simplest to counter. But they're the ones that spank you the hardest if you screw up.

[Untonic]

Just played a match with them... after taking a break from Geth I really wasn't looking forward to seeing them again. Just tired of them.

Cerberus is the easiest, Reaper is the next, and the friggin Geth take 1st place and Scrooge of the Year Award.

[brain_damage]

Optimistman wrote...

MagicThoughts wrote...

Krogan vanguard vs geth. gg no re.

Lol, this.

+1. Even on gold, the kroguard owns the geth.