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[Jay_Hoxtatron]

Well... Seems like OP can't run around killing things and needs to camp a position.

[sareth_65536]

I like how everyone tries to offend the OP just because he doesn't think that the geth are cheap
"You camp"
"You play only KV"
"You're playing bronze"
"You're playing FBW"
And all this just because OP knows how to easily counter them using any class. lol

[MVestala]

If only they wouldn't shoot their rockets through the darn walls all the time, then i'd agree...and yeah if you throw em in the air or stomp them on the ground, they sometimes bug out and shoot the heck out of you while doing it.

Most annoying enemy in the game still for me, is Nemesis tho, that **** runs and dodges while delivering 10000000% accurate and deadly headshots at you, not fun. Oh and the Phantoms hand sniping cannon is also just lol.

[iplay222]

Optimistman wrote...


It's hard to believe that people are completely naive to the fact that the reapers are insanely imbalanced right now.

Oh yes, fact!

It's hard to believe that people are completely naive to the fact that different people may find reapers or cerberus easier.

I find reapers to be the easiest but I find geth to be the most annoying.

Different people have different playstyles that may suit the other factions better.

Your opinion isn't fact.

Modifié par iplay222, 15 août 2012 - 10:16 .

[Jay_Hoxtatron]

sareth_65536 wrote...


And all this just because OP knows how to easily counter them using any class. lol

ORLY?

[JonasPeti]

Optimistman wrote...

After playing multple matches of reapers and cerberus because for some ****ING unknown reason people seem to like to play these over geth nowadays, i had to get my mind out about this subject.

Why do people think geth are the hardest faction? Geth don't rush you down to the point in which cover is taken out as a factor in the game. They can't ninja sprint at you or biotic charge towards you. They're SLOW and you can at least see them coming. They have no sync-kills.................HOW IS THIS DIFFICULT.

It's hard to believe that people are completely naive to the fact that the reapers are insanely imbalanced right now.

For main reason: There should be no enemy type in which half of the units can rush you down with brute strength/melee and have units that can snipe you or shoot you down. It's stupid.

I have had too many games today in which i have been chased out of cover from stupid ass banshees and brutes to only land into the fire of ravagers and marauders. It's beyond frustrating; it's beyond maddening.  Cerberus aren't nearly as bad as reapers in my opinion but one slip up against them and you might as well call it quits. Turrets and phantoms have the excessive potential to keep you down when you go down which makes medi-gels almost meaningless when you don't have your team around you.

I'm not saying geth are easy. But they are much more doable without constant frustration.


Edit:
Most people are saying the geth are difficult because they are cheap but forget that after you die, you can get back up to get back into the fight relatively easy. The geth also don't negate powers, have stupid damage reduction, and only two of their troops have armor. You shoot at geth they die; you throw grenades at geth they die. That's not difficult compared to throwing a grenade and it getting blocked or shooting and the enemy charging right through it.

I think the geth fraction is the weakest.
But... most of the geth units have some glitch/cheat. They're annoying and unpredictable. That's why I hate to play against geth. The other fractions have less bugs/cheats so they are easier for me (I speak only about gold/platinum where you can die fast when some glitch comes into your face suddenly).

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sareth_65536 wrote...

I like how everyone tries to offend the OP just because he doesn't think that the geth are cheap
"You camp"
"You play only KV"
"You're playing bronze"
"You're playing FBW"
And all this just because OP knows how to easily counter them using any class. lol

Doubt he knows how to counter the bugginess of them though. If he is on Bronze, (haven't read this thread), well, then that's an obvious counter. 

Reason Geth are hard is because as someone mentioned, they're reasonably cheap but principally because they're  buggy. From double rockets, 'KOed' Hunters shooting you to pyro's getting you with their flamer despite clearly being out of their range. 

Reapers are easy to deal with. Yes there's the issue of Ravagers nailing you but again, easy to deal with once you're competent. Only problem with Cerberus is the Phantom's and those nasty turrets that sometimes catch you off guard. Or the invisible ones, they're the best. Other than that, they aren't really that buggy (lag & ravager missiles aside) or that hard to face. They're far from frustrating as well.

Modifié par Dest1ny, 15 août 2012 - 10:24 .

[sclera]

They're slightly easier than Cerberus imo, reapers are the hardest. 

[Computron2000]

OP, you only know how to camp probably from farming too much. Its a bad habit that makes you think Reapers and Cerberus is hard. It is also a habit that will make you fail any time you solo.

Solo the geth then come back to tell everyone that they are easier than the Reapers and Cerberus. My gold solo fail percentage vs Geth is 50% or more higher than vs Cerberus and Reapers (other than Kroguard) but hey, maybe you're incredibly good at handling prime shots with no LOS, stunlock by 2+ hunters and 3 rocket troopers spamming 3 rockets in 2 directions while moving

[sareth_65536]

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

sareth_65536 wrote...


And all this just because OP knows how to easily counter them using any class. lol

ORLY?

Why are you so surprised?

Dest1ny wrote...

Doubt he knows how to counter the bugginess of them though. 

 
Why do you doubt it?

[sclera]

Computron2000 wrote...

OP, you only know how to camp probably from farming too much. Its a bad habit that makes you think Reapers and Cerberus is hard. It is also a habit that will make you fail any time you solo.

Solo the geth then come back to tell everyone that they are easier than the Reapers and Cerberus. My gold solo fail percentage vs Geth is 50% or more higher than vs Cerberus and Reapers (other than Kroguard) but hey, maybe you're incredibly good at handling prime shots with no LOS, stunlock by 2+ hunters and 3 rocket troopers spamming 3 rockets in 2 directions while moving

You are already acutely aware of this, but Mass Effect 3 multiplayer is a multiplayer game. 

[Computron2000]

sclera wrote...

Computron2000 wrote...

OP, you only know how to camp probably from farming too much. Its a bad habit that makes you think Reapers and Cerberus is hard. It is also a habit that will make you fail any time you solo.

Solo the geth then come back to tell everyone that they are easier than the Reapers and Cerberus. My gold solo fail percentage vs Geth is 50% or more higher than vs Cerberus and Reapers (other than Kroguard) but hey, maybe you're incredibly good at handling prime shots with no LOS, stunlock by 2+ hunters and 3 rocket troopers spamming 3 rockets in 2 directions while moving

You are already acutely aware of this, but Mass Effect 3 multiplayer is a multiplayer game. 

Not when random teammates constantly die in 75% of the games i've been in and you end up having to solo waves

[defleshing]

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

Well... Seems like OP can't run around killing things and needs to camp a position.

exactly you think there easy put it on platinum and spawn rush them...let us know how that works out for you op.

Modifié par defleshing, 15 août 2012 - 11:35 .

[synapsefire]

If you like to hide in corners or sit behind counters play geth. If running around beasting with a shotgun is your style reapers will be easy. Cerberus have Phantom hand cannons, Atlas missiles, annoying turrets and Trooper stomps, offering more of a challenge than reapers at least.

Modifié par synapsefire, 15 août 2012 - 11:39 .

[DAFerelden91]

Actually, Geth can be extremely difficult at some point. Indeed, I am talking about the Geth signature- "Ultimate Death from Staggering." Geth battle can be tough when you got objectives like device and hack.

[Nelzeben]

Wow, I have no idea how you are not frustrated by the Geth and find them easier than Cerberus. Admittedly, I didn't read the whole thread, so sorry if you've already said it somewhere, but what kind of classes do you like to play? How is stunlocking not the most ridiculous game mechanic, topping even the Banshee's magnet-hands, especially when Hunters themselves are immune to it?

Sure, both the Phantom and the Banshee have annoying abilities, the latter can also cheat by teleporting through walls or grabbing you through one, but that's just one unit. All but the basic trooper of the Geth are broken in one way or another. Frankly, I'd rather have a Brute charge at me than a pack of two Hunters and two Pyros leisurely block my only escape route and dodging/ignoring all the powers I throw at them while that Geth turret the Prime in another room somehow managed to place right behind me kills me within five seconds.

Edit: And yes, no insta-kills, but that's utterly meaningless if you're the last one standing and said pack of Hunters and Pyros camps right on top of your body. With Cerberus and the Reapers, you still have a chance unless a Phantom or Banshee sits on top of you. Geth, not so much.

Modifié par Nelzeben, 15 août 2012 - 12:02 .

[jae112200]

Actually I think the geth have the most "insta kills," Reapers have banshees, if you get caught it's usually your fault or stupid magnet hands, and they also have brutes which very rarely one hit ya. Cerebus have phantoms which are slightly harder but if you are careful you can avoid the one shot. Here are just some of the ways that geth can insta kill you.

1. Rocket troopers- they'll fire three or four rockets at a time, which pretty much stuns you and then drops you.
2. Hunters- Geth plasma rifles+stunlock=instant death in most cases if there are more than one hunter near you.
3. Pyros- The instant bbq of your character, add another pyro in and you are pretty much done for, forget that op pack because it isn't going to do **** for you, sorry.
4. Primes- All seeing turrets that can stun you, they can hit you from across the map and stun lock you, get hit two or three times and you are down.

So that's four ways the geth can "insta kill" you, sure it's not the same as the banshees or the phantoms but they will kill you quicker and with more frequency. At least with the other factions you know what you did wrong, with geth you are dead and you don't always know where it came from.

[Frozen Mind]

Yup, they are easy...


I would also add video how to easily deal with Geth, but maybe later (low upload).

[Felhand]

sareth_65536 wrote...

I like how everyone tries to offend the OP just because he doesn't think that the geth are cheap
"You camp"
"You play only KV"
"You're playing bronze"
"You're playing FBW"
And all this just because OP knows how to easily counter them using any class. lol

Ah we have some testicle gargling around these parts, geth fundamentaly arn't hard at all but rather their tactics,spawns , stuns and bugs can (quite randomly) circumvent most tactics beyond hiding behind a counter and even then you run the risk of a 'flash spawn', anytime Im fighting geth i check my six regularly because I know the game likes to pick pyros as reinforcements mid wave.

Alternatively MOST people can make short work of cerberus with the exception of the turret and phantom, both of which probably give alot of trouble to aggresive tunnel vision players but the majority of gold players pre-earth dlc had a solid enough grasp on counter-tactics for those two problems that the faction as a whole was (and still is) considered by most to be the 'easiest'.

Reapers alternateively have a few tricky units so dont need the bugs that give geth their biggest edge, marauders are super accurate and the unaware die easily to the ravager (who is a mobile equivelent to the cerberus turret) but their big annoying wench is the banshee. People often gripe about the phantoms power blocks but the banshee has the same thing it just comes in twilight(sparkles) flavor, combined with her extremely nasty warp attack and AOE screech she can devestate some classes. (most biotics that can create explosions and vorcha however are pretty good at killing them on gold, vorcha in perticular is fun if your set up for health regeneration he can eat warps and not go down while melting banshee with his flamer.)

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Now as it stands if they did fix the geth bugs the faction would be the easiest, however if they fixed those and gave smoke screen to pyros it would vastly improve them as a faction.

Modifié par Felhand, 15 août 2012 - 12:36 .

[NuclearTech76]

There are two types of successful players on higher levels. There are those who are mostly out of cover moving around the map killing things as they go. Then there are those who set in cover most of the match and allow the enemy to come to them. The former usually struggles most against the geth, the latter against the two other factions because of their speed (reapers) and tactics (cerberus).

I despise geth because of the stunlock factor. Rocket troopers and hunters are the cheapest enemies in the game.

[silencekills]

 Reapers are pretty easy. "Oh hai Banshee! Strip your barriers so your no longer a huge threat? GOOD IDEA!", Brutes die scarily easily, Marauders with their Phasteon Cs are slightly annoying but only when they catch you with health, Ravagers are pretty easy to kill and give a huge indicator for you to get into cover/out of their LoS. The second most dangerous enemy they have is the husk. The deadliest enemy they have is the Swarmer. They also don't crowd your body.

Cerberus is harder than Reapers I'd say. Troops are chumps, Centurions are chumps, Guardians are chumps but woe the individual who has nothing suitable for mail sloting/armour piercing, Engineers are more annoying chumps who can ninja repair Atlas...i and set up turrets, and the Atlas isreally just a big wall. Phantoms are highly dangerous from range with the palm cannon of doom, highly dangerous up close with the palm cannon of doom, EXTREMELY dangerous when they are next to you and pull out a sword, and they like to hover over your body for a while so good luck surviving a revive if nobody takes out the Phantom first. Turrets are the most dangerous, make anywhere a potential threat, can saw you down frighteningly fast, and they can have a Tactical Cloak.

Geth are just...oh man. Geth, Geth, Geth, Geth, Geth. Stunlock city, population-you. Between the Rocket Troopers, Sniper Pyros, and Hunters, good luck going anywhere on the map. JUST USE COVER! Ok, now we have a giant group of enemies here AND two Primes in front with a third on the way. MOVE FROM COVER! And then get shot in the back by a stun cannon and be mopped up by...well, pretty much anything. MOVE AROUND THE MAP! And proceed to get rocketed/stunlocked to hell. Even their melee. When you go down, they WILL crowd your body and if you medigel/get revived, expect to immediately get melee stunned and then shot back down. You can't even use an Ops Survival Pack while your in the stun durration, so you are really screwed if your hit by a single thing while in view of other enemies. Geth even use wall hacks, throwing little turrets in perfect positions to chew at you.

[ASSUMINGDIRECTC0NTR0L]

cly57 wrote...

Reapers and Cerberus are easier imho. Geth are cheap and cheat.

This.

Hunters can shoot while staggered, we can't. 

Pyros torch you from absurdly long ranges with flamethrower

Rocket Troopers fire up to 3 Rockets at a time and they can go through solid objects

On Platinum, Geth Turrets kill squishier characters instantly even with max'd fitness, and Geth Primes can throw them through walls and have an unlimited supply of them

Geth Primes are hell for Batarians and Turians. Stunlock you into oblivion and you can't do a damn thing about it. Once you get hit by their gun once, you're likely going down. These classes most definitely should be granted immunity to this like Krogan Vanguard and Destroyer have

Why people like fighting Geth or think they are easy, I don't know.

Modifié par ASSUMINGDIRECTC0NTR0L, 15 août 2012 - 12:47 .

[E71]

It's funny how some dismiss the Geth as easy but call them cheap...

Uh, yeah... That's what makes them most difficult.

Modifié par E71, 15 août 2012 - 12:55 .

[K_Os2]

sareth_65536 wrote...

I like how everyone tries to offend the OP just because he doesn't think that the geth are cheap
"You camp"
"You play only KV"
"You're playing bronze"
"You're playing FBW"
And all this just because OP knows how to easily counter them using any class. lol

I'll take what you are saying with a grain of salt. If it's easy as he claims he should have no problem posting a vid of himself in action on say Geth/Condor/Gold with a class that is not a bullet dispensing machine.

Modifié par K_Os2, 15 août 2012 - 01:11 .

[BDelacroix]

I don't really find any of the factions particularly hard.