Dagr88 wrote...
Reznore57 wrote...
Well the crazy Sandal Theory talks about "skies cracking open" or something...and he mentions that "He will Rise and everyone will see".
I guess it's more of an eastern egg than a big revelation .
Maybe Sandal talked about himself. That would be one big "Ta-ta-taaaa"
... Or is it the theory itself?
Earthborn_Shepard wrote...
I'm so romancing Cassandra!
Also I'm wondering why Bioware doesn't seem to give a sh*t about this
I'm probably already screwed because EA will sue me to hell and back :/
Dave of Canada wrote...
Ericander77 wrote...
how do you think morrigan will appear in DA3!?!?!?
From Silent Grove, we discover that Flemeth has multiple daughters and they're all working on perserving Dragons and they discuss in throw-away detail that they used to rule Thedas in a time before the Veil.
This implies the Veil is a recent creation, something which seperates the Fade and reality--something which is further hinted at in the following prophecy which to my knowledge only occurs if you've done the Dark Ritual:[/list]Now to dissect.Sandal: One day the magic will come back. All of it. Everyone will be just like they were. The shadows will part, and the skies will open wide.
Bodahn: Huh. What's this?
Sandal: When he rises, everyone will see.
Bodahn: By the ancestors, what's gotten into you, my boy?
Sandal: Enchantment?
Bodahn: Hmph. That's more like it.
So "magic" will return and "everyone will be like they were", pretty much saying that everyone will become mages. This was implied elsewhere in the series, such as the Nexus Golem which says the following:"We were once more than we are."
Once again, implying that everyone used to be something before. The elves also believe in ancient times that they used to all be mages, the talent slowly disappearing from them and creating their current race's limitations and powers.
So basically, everyone will become mages. Which is bad (or good, depending on how you see it).
Then we've got the "shadows" and how the "skies will open wide", where did we hear about shadows before? Oh right, the talking statue in the Circle of Magi of Ferelden:"The prison is breached. I see the encroaching darkness. The... the shadow will consume all..."
Seems they're related somehow, what could it mean? Perhaps the Veil--or it's creators--is the shadow? I mean, Sandal says the skies will open wide when the shadows part and the only "open" skies we've seen were in The Silent Grove, a flashback of the past:
Perhaps I'm stretching things too far, though I'd like to imagine them connected.
The "he" in the prophecy obviously refers to Urthemiel, nothing much more to share about this.
Now there's additional references to a common event found between both DAO and DA2.
The Nexus Golum--in it's knowledge--talks about light:"The Gauntlet is passed. Only a Shaperate can bring the light. Conversion begins..."
What conversion? The conversion of everyone into mages? We have heard within DA2 casual dialogue that mage numbers have greatly increased in the recent generation, coinciding with the return of Dragons which occured at the start of the Dragon Age, almost 30 years ago.
What "light"? Well, there's also this dialogue from the talking statue in Origins:"Weep not for me, child. Stone they made me and stone I am, eternal and unfeeling. And thus shall I endure 'til the Maker returns to light their fires again."
Well, another reference to "light". Perhaps unconnected, though worth a mention. You could also mention that the Shaperate--which are dwarves--have a connection to the stone, something the statue is made of. That's probably the biggest stretch I'll make but meh.
With all of Morrigan's talking about "change", I assume the conversion of everyone into mages is what she's speaking of and that's why people will fight against it. Her role in DA3 will probably be about trying to achieve this, Urthemiel having a role in it if perserved.
LolaLei wrote...
Dagr88 wrote...
Reznore57 wrote...
Well the crazy Sandal Theory talks about "skies cracking open" or something...and he mentions that "He will Rise and everyone will see".
I guess it's more of an eastern egg than a big revelation .
Maybe Sandal talked about himself. That would be one big "Ta-ta-taaaa"
... Or is it the theory itself?
Y'know, I think I'd actually let Sandal win, just 'cause its him lol.
Modifié par Personality Disorder, 18 août 2012 - 08:38 .
EJ107 wrote...
King Cousland wrote...
Doesn't Flemeth seem too obvious? She's up to something, but her being the "big bad" of the series just seems too blatant. I think in the end - whenever that may - it will come down to Flemeth vs Morrigan (and maybe even some of Flemeth's other daughters), but who's in the right will, I think, be left up to us.
She does seem a bit obvious, but then it would be hard to set a villian up appropriately without making it obvious. And to be honest I would much rather have Flemeth as the antagonist that random guy x we have never heard of before and barely see at all during the game :cough:Meredith:cough:
Modifié par King Cousland, 18 août 2012 - 08:39 .
Personality Disorder wrote...
I'm not really sure about this ubiquitous conversion into mages though. Seems unlikely purely from the gameplay standpoint.
King Cousland wrote...
EJ107 wrote...
King Cousland wrote...
Doesn't Flemeth seem too obvious? She's up to something, but her being the "big bad" of the series just seems too blatant. I think in the end - whenever that may - it will come down to Flemeth vs Morrigan (and maybe even some of Flemeth's other daughters), but who's in the right will, I think, be left up to us.
She does seem a bit obvious, but then it would be hard to set a villian up appropriately without making it obvious. And to be honest I would much rather have Flemeth as the antagonist that random guy x we have never heard of before and barely see at all during the game :cough:Meredith:cough:
I don't think that that has to be the case. The supposed rupture in the Veil could just be a "natural" phenomenon caused by the intense concentration of magic in the MTW, but even if it is caused (or at least encouraged) by one person, they don't necessarily have to be a "baddie" in the same way that Meredith was. Essentially, being an antagonist is not always synonomous with being a villain (take Loghain for example), and a good, well-written antagonist can be introduced and developed well providing that they have plenty of exposure, are three-dimensional, and have a cause which, while it may be considered misguided, can at least be sympathised with. Loghain was a wonderfully written antagonist since he ticked all of these boxes, and could be sympathised with and engaged even those who hadn't read The Stolen Throne or The Calling.
Dave of Canada wrote...
Personality Disorder wrote...
I'm not really sure about this ubiquitous conversion into mages though. Seems unlikely purely from the gameplay standpoint.
Perhaps they'll make it a long-term consequence, such as all newborns will be mages and the mundanes become the dying breed. Keeps recent games unchanged except for dialogue about everyone freaking out.
King Cousland wrote...
I don't think that that has to be the case. The supposed rupture in the Veil could just be a "natural" phenomenon caused by the intense concentration of magic in the MTW, but even if it is caused (or at least encouraged) by one person, they don't necessarily have to be a "baddie" in the same way that Meredith was. Essentially, being an antagonist is not always synonomous with being a villain (take Loghain for example), and a good, well-written antagonist can be introduced and developed well providing that they have plenty of exposure, are three-dimensional, and have a cause which, while it may be considered misguided, can at least be sympathised with. Loghain was a wonderfully written antagonist since he ticked all of these boxes, and could be sympathised with and engaged even those who hadn't read The Stolen Throne or The Calling.
Dave of Canada wrote...
Personality Disorder wrote...
I'm not really sure about this ubiquitous conversion into mages though. Seems unlikely purely from the gameplay standpoint.
Perhaps they'll make it a long-term consequence, such as all newborns will be mages and the mundanes become the dying breed. Keeps recent games unchanged except for dialogue about everyone freaking out.
Modifié par EJ107, 18 août 2012 - 08:55 .
LolaLei wrote...
Dagr88 wrote...
Reznore57 wrote...
Well the crazy Sandal Theory talks about "skies cracking open" or something...and he mentions that "He will Rise and everyone will see".
I guess it's more of an eastern egg than a big revelation .
Maybe Sandal talked about himself. That would be one big "Ta-ta-taaaa"
... Or is it the theory itself?
Y'know, I think I'd actually let Sandal win, just 'cause its him lol.
Ericander77 wrote...
and i'm SUPER excited about the 10 companions. i'm guessing more rouges and mages. I think they are going to try and make new fighting styles for the extra couple followers, like tallis throwing knifes and stuff.
Modifié par EJ107, 18 août 2012 - 09:00 .
Earthborn_Shepard wrote...
By the way, is it possible to change thread names? Because by now, maybe the title "Big ol' Dragon Age 3 News&Speculation Thread" might be more fitting...
Earthborn_Shepard wrote...
Also, a few things I remembered from the questions (the ones about what possible elements of DA3 you would prefer):
- online/coop modus (really Bioware? Because that worked so well with ME3? :/ )
- special finishing moves
- a lot of crucial decisions
- drama and suspense
- player-controlled day/night modus
- better party management
- 4 companions at a time
to make this clear, it wasn't outright saying that those things were in the game, it was just hinting at it
Earthborn_Shepard wrote...
Also, a few things I remembered from the questions (the ones about what possible elements of DA3 you would prefer):
- online/coop modus (really Bioware? Because that worked so well with ME3? :/ )
- special finishing moves
- a lot of crucial decisions
- drama and suspense
- player-controlled day/night modus
- better party management
- 4 companions at a time
to make this clear, it wasn't outright saying that those things were in the game, it was just hinting at it
Modifié par Nymiria, 18 août 2012 - 09:12 .
Nymiria wrote...
When the first movie in the LOTR trilogy came out it was great. I couldn't wait to see the next one. Then when the second movie came out it was somewhat of a disappointment and not as interesting to me as the first movie (IMHO). However, it set up the final movie, "The Return of the King". Which was definity worth the wait! Plus Viggo Mortensen is not too hard on the eyes. Maybe DA II can be considered the bridge to DA 3 and hopefully it will be worth the wait.
Earthborn_Shepard wrote...
Also, a few things I remembered from the questions (the ones about what possible elements of DA3 you would prefer):
- online/coop modus (really Bioware? Because that worked so well with ME3? :/ )
- special finishing moves
- a lot of crucial decisions
- drama and suspense
- player-controlled day/night modus
- better party management
- 4 companions at a time
to make this clear, it wasn't outright saying that those things were in the game, it was just hinting at it
Modifié par Personality Disorder, 18 août 2012 - 09:22 .
Didn't one of the guys of BW say at PAX say that if they made online it would be like BG?Earthborn_Shepard wrote...
Also, a few things I remembered from the questions (the ones about what possible elements of DA3 you would prefer):
- online/coop modus (really Bioware? Because that worked so well with ME3? :/ )
- special finishing moves
- a lot of crucial decisions
- drama and suspense
- player-controlled day/night modus
- better party management
- 4 companions at a time
to make this clear, it wasn't outright saying that those things were in the game, it was just hinting at it
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