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[Melca36]

BrotherWarth wrote...

carine wrote...

BrotherWarth wrote...
There's no way they're going to wait that long. The game will probably be released next Spring and EA loves having long pre-order periods so I would expect an announcement trailer this fall. But if this leak gets spread around enough they may pish their schedule forward and reveal the game without a full trailer.

Next spring as in spring 2013, or spring 2014? 

Spring 2013 seems pretty soon for a game not even officially announced yet. Then again, it is EA... but still.

Spring 2013. I would bet that they've been intentionally downplaying DA3 to avoid accusations that it's another rushed half-assed sequel. And they don't want one of their own competing with ME3 in the news. They still want ME3 to be fresh in people's minds to sell DLC. 
Announcing this fall and releasing in the spring also lets them keep control of news coverage because there's not really enough time for problems to show pre-release and not enough time for problems the press may observe to get into gamers' minds before it drops. It's something a lot of the game companies do when franshises are flagging.

Not going to happen. They will announce the same way they announced ME3. They have Command & Conquer coming out in 2013.. so my bet its a spring 2014 release

[TrooperTethras]

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

GUYS
OMG GUYS

I'M JUST DOING THE SAME SURVEY AGAIN, GOT AN INVITATION FROM ANOTHER SITE I'M ON

AND THE DESCRIPTION IS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT

I'll have to translate everything cause it's German, but I'll make screenshots!

Hold up; so information about DA3 was leaked earlier this week, so rather then locking everything down and stop sending out these supposed surveys, they continue to do so and also add extra information into the mix.

Not to mention that the blurbs in these surveys (the German survey excepted due to translation difficulties) aren't well written at all; the plot in particular has me scratching my head.

The only thing in favour of this leak I've seen is the concept art and even then some aspects of the work seem a bit strange.

If this leak proves to be true I will be somewhat disappointed in the direction this story is taking, but I still maintain hope that Bioware can make something truly great out of DA3 (please?)

Thanks for reading through the rant, now back to awaiting the game's announcement.

Modifié par TrooperOnasi, 19 août 2012 - 06:44 .

[Ilidan_DA]

VGA 2010 :

December 12, 2010 showed the first trailer ME3.

The game was released March 6, 2012.

[ElitePinecone]

Melca36 wrote...

BrotherWarth wrote...

carine wrote...

BrotherWarth wrote...
There's no way they're going to wait that long. The game will probably be released next Spring and EA loves having long pre-order periods so I would expect an announcement trailer this fall. But if this leak gets spread around enough they may pish their schedule forward and reveal the game without a full trailer.

Next spring as in spring 2013, or spring 2014? 

Spring 2013 seems pretty soon for a game not even officially announced yet. Then again, it is EA... but still.

Spring 2013. I would bet that they've been intentionally downplaying DA3 to avoid accusations that it's another rushed half-assed sequel. And they don't want one of their own competing with ME3 in the news. They still want ME3 to be fresh in people's minds to sell DLC. 
Announcing this fall and releasing in the spring also lets them keep control of news coverage because there's not really enough time for problems to show pre-release and not enough time for problems the press may observe to get into gamers' minds before it drops. It's something a lot of the game companies do when franshises are flagging.

Not going to happen. They will announce the same way they announced ME3. They have Command & Conquer coming out in 2013.. so my bet its a spring 2014 release

Um, Command & Conquer is a free-to-play game being developed by an RTS studio who have little if anything to do with Bioware in Edmonton, except that they're both under the umbrella of Bioware Mythic in EA. 

Bioware isn't one big studio, they have at least four smaller units who work on different things, or the same thing when needed (Montreal worked on ME3's MP, and now it's being expanded to work on its own projects). 

[carine]

TrooperOnasi wrote...

Not to mention that the blurbs in these surveys (the German survey excepted due to translation difficulties) aren't well written at all; the plot in particular has me scratching my head.

The only thing in favour of this leak I've seen is the concept art and even then some aspects of the work seem a bit strange.

Some of the concept art does look strange. But as for the blurbs on the surveys, I feel like they mostly lack polish. Transitions and better word choice. But if these surveys are meant to figure out how to market the product, it kind of makes sense. highlight what is interesting and then the actual blub on the back of the box will elaborate on that element.  Maybe? Ha. I'm speculating. 

[Blackrising]

Honestly, I'm not yet sure what to think of all these supposed spoilers. They seem genuine, but I have a hard time accepting Bioware would take the risk of a survey like that when they've said time and time again that they want to wait with any announcements till they've got enough material to show. However, the leak might be intentional as well.

But as far as the concepts go, playing an inquisitor sounds smashing. And I really really want Cassandra to be a romancable companion (preferably lesbian/bi if Bioware decides to give the LIs sexual preferences...which would make me pretty sad, just so you know).
And while I would love to be able to choose my race, I don't mind playing a human again. And not being able to choose your race doesn't mean we won't get different origin stories. We might be able to choose whether the PC is a noble from a loving family, an orphan on the streets who needs to steal and kill to survive, a loner who lost his/her whole family...etc. And I could totally get behind that.

However, it almost sounds like the PC will start of as an influential inquisitor. I like the 'previously unknown person rises to power and becomes a hero' thing that DA:O and DA 2 have got going on, so I'm not sure I like that.

What do you guys think? Is it possible that the PC will be powerful from the very beginning?

[Melca36]

ElitePinecone wrote...

Melca36 wrote...

BrotherWarth wrote...

carine wrote...

BrotherWarth wrote...
There's no way they're going to wait that long. The game will probably be released next Spring and EA loves having long pre-order periods so I would expect an announcement trailer this fall. But if this leak gets spread around enough they may pish their schedule forward and reveal the game without a full trailer.

Next spring as in spring 2013, or spring 2014? 

Spring 2013 seems pretty soon for a game not even officially announced yet. Then again, it is EA... but still.

Spring 2013. I would bet that they've been intentionally downplaying DA3 to avoid accusations that it's another rushed half-assed sequel. And they don't want one of their own competing with ME3 in the news. They still want ME3 to be fresh in people's minds to sell DLC. 
Announcing this fall and releasing in the spring also lets them keep control of news coverage because there's not really enough time for problems to show pre-release and not enough time for problems the press may observe to get into gamers' minds before it drops. It's something a lot of the game companies do when franshises are flagging.

Not going to happen. They will announce the same way they announced ME3. They have Command & Conquer coming out in 2013.. so my bet its a spring 2014 release

Um, Command & Conquer is a free-to-play game being developed by an RTS studio who have little if anything to do with Bioware in Edmonton, except that they're both under the umbrella of Bioware Mythic in EA. 

Bioware isn't one big studio, they have at least four smaller units who work on different things, or the same thing when needed (Montreal worked on ME3's MP, and now it's being expanded to work on its own projects). 

Really?

It had a huge trailer at the VGA awards last year.

[carine]

I thought the trailer was just a sneak peak at the VGAs.

[ElitePinecone]

Blackrising wrote...

Honestly, I'm not yet sure what to think of all these supposed spoilers. They seem genuine, but I have a hard time accepting Bioware would take the risk of a survey like that when they've said time and time again that they want to wait with any announcements till they've got enough material to show. However, the leak might be intentional as well.

But as far as the concepts go, playing an inquisitor sounds smashing. And I really really want Cassandra to be a romancable companion (preferably lesbian/bi if Bioware decides to give the LIs sexual preferences...which would make me pretty sad, just so you know).
And while I would love to be able to choose my race, I don't mind playing a human again. And not being able to choose your race doesn't mean we won't get different origin stories. We might be able to choose whether the PC is a noble from a loving family, an orphan on the streets who needs to steal and kill to survive, a loner who lost his/her whole family...etc. And I could totally get behind that.

However, it almost sounds like the PC will start of as an influential inquisitor. I like the 'previously unknown person rises to power and becomes a hero' thing that DA:O and DA 2 have got going on, so I'm not sure I like that.

What do you guys think? Is it possible that the PC will be powerful from the very beginning?

The blurbs seem to suggest the player character happens to be at/near the peace conference when the explosion happens, and is subsequently appointed as an Inquisitor with the mission of tracking down and stopping the source of the chaos. I doubt that they'd be a Chantry-style old-fashioned Inquisitor from the start, since that has a lot of ideological baggage that would make (for example) playing a character sympathetic to mages very difficult. 

If I could speculate for a bit, there could even be origins tied to the player's class or background (since both mages and templars are represented at the meeting), and it's our actions during the course of the explosion (I dunno, saving an important person or defeating a key enemy) that then make the PC stand out enough to be appointed an Inquisitor.

The different perspectives could be a brief 'origin' (as, say, a Templar/mage/Orlesian noble/commoner/thief/etc) set slightly before the explosion, as all sides prepare for the meeting and the player can talk to NPCs about the state of the world. When the event does happen, the player is thrust into a position of Inquisitor to bring peace and travel across Thedas, yadda yadda. 

[ElitePinecone]

Melca36 wrote...

Really?

It had a huge trailer at the VGA awards last year.

Yep! I guess they know what they're doing? http://www.eurogamer...to-play-venture 

It's being developed by Bioware Victory, which aren't technically 'Bioware' at all (they just share a name and maybe some executives).

My point was that Bioware is now such a diverse group of studios that I think it's not like they'd delay a DA3 release because they had a big huge project in C&C coming out: the main Edmonton studio certainly alternates with Mass Effect and Dragon Age, but there are a bunch of other studios with projects (Austin with SWTOR, Montreal, the social studios) that I don't think would be tied to the RPGs in terms of release date strategies. 

Obviously we don't know how far DA3 is along in development, but I don't think it'd be launched as late as 2014 - some industry analysts have said early-to-mid 2013 (say, July at the latest) and I'm thinking maybe that's more accurate.

Don't know though!

[TamiBx]

carine wrote...

I thought the trailer was just a sneak peak at the VGAs.

It was a sneak peak, yes. 

So with C&C being free for play and Ultimate Forever also a free to play game, Bioware has no other game to release. ME3 shouldn't affect DA at all, especially because all DLCs are probably decided by now and they're different teams. 

Unless they announce a brand new game(which I highly doubt they will), DA3 is the next thing for Bioware. And as I said a couple of pages back, I don't think Bioware will go more than two years without releasing a game, so we can expect DA3 for next year or early 2014 the latest.

It is also good to remember that even though DA2 was rushed, it was announced in summer 2010 and released early 2011, proving they can announce and release not so far away. ME3 was announced in 2010 and it still wasn't perfect, sooo...all it matters is how far along into development they are, not when they announce and release 
(Maybe for marketing they want to announce it as early as possible, but oh well)

[Earthborn_Shepard]

Holy crap what is going on, the thread is taking up speed
Still can't understand why this doesn't get locked

[Windninja47]

So does the leak give any indication of whether or not there will be the ability to choose your race?

[ElitePinecone]

Windninja47 wrote...

So does the leak give any indication of whether or not there will be the ability to choose your race?

No, except that the player character is probably involved with the events surrounding the destruction of a mage-templar peace meeting. 

[Dagr88]

Windninja47 wrote...

So does the leak give any indication of whether or not there will be the ability to choose your race?

Different races means +200% to protagonist Voice Acting... so my guess is - no.
(Unless humans/dwarfs/elves have same voice)

[Tinu]

I don't see why a dwarf should solve the crisis. Elves aren't exactly in the position to do it either.

[Giltspur]

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Leliana would be a pretty possible companion as well. We see her at the end of DA2, and obviously she's part of the same organisation as Cassandra... and I think by now we can check Cassandra as confirmed.

Maybe Justinia dies at the start of DA3, and Leliana founds the Inquisition and appoints your character to his role, leaving Cassandra as a potential party member while Leliana is off doing other things.  Or maybe she's a party member too.   If you look at known characters (4 warriors, 2 rogues, 1 mage with only 2 females vs. 5 males) it would make sense to have a female bard as the third rogue.  Then again, Leliana might have become too recognizable to be useful as a bard/spy.

I get the impression that Lambert and the Templar/Seekers had broken away from Chantry after the proper events of Dragon Age II but before the Varric/Cassandra interrogation, meaning that Cassandra and Leliana stayed loyal to Justinia and the Chantry even after many Templars/Seekers had seceded.  And so Justinia/Cassandra/Leliana were already engaged in an early version of the Inquisition.  I'm not sure though.  Maybe a lorenut or chronology master can clarify.

[cogsandcurls]

ElitePinecone wrote...

Also while we're here, what on earth is the point of Bioware's staying quiet about any future game if it looks like concept art, a pretty large list of possible companions, and a fair chunk of information about the game's setting and early story is leaked before it's officially announced?!

It'll make companion announcements a bit anticlimactic, surely?

I mean, they're (apparently) deciding marketing angles and points to emphasise before the company will even reveal what it is they're developing.

I'm just guessing here, obviously, but sort of suspect we're getting all this leaked info about the companions because it hasn't been announced yet - they want to know which characters are best to push to the forefront when they start up the hype machine. If I had to guess what this survey was actually for, I'd say it's not at all about the actual content of the game and more about deciding which characters get the spotlight when the announcement comes: the way Miranda and Thane got to be ME2's face characters even though they weren't the only new squadmates, or the way Leliana got more marketing space than Zevran when it came to DA:O. These things don't affect the game itself, but they do affect the prerelease buildup and the perception of the game.

Modifié par cogsandcurls, 19 août 2012 - 10:51 .

[ElitePinecone]

Giltspur wrote...

Maybe Justinia dies at the start of DA3, and Leliana founds the Inquisition and appoints your character to his role, leaving Cassandra as a potential party member while Leliana is off doing other things.  

That's an interesting idea - it would explain why Leliana was so important for the storyline.

Someone suggested earlier that the start of DA3 could even be set before DA2's ending, and that the reason Leliana and Cassandra want to find Hawke and The Warden so badly is to use them to stop some of the disorder. After all, we're never really given much detail about the 'outside' narrative in DA2 - just that everyone's flailing around panicking about something. If it was set in 9:40 Dragon, there's a few months between the end of Asunder and that point in DA2 for the early part of DA3 to occur. 

IThat would also mean Lambert's Seekers and the Templars had seceded from the Chantry proper.)

[ScaryJeff]

Giltspur wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Leliana would be a pretty possible companion as well. We see her at the end of DA2, and obviously she's part of the same organisation as Cassandra... and I think by now we can check Cassandra as confirmed.

Maybe Justinia dies at the start of DA3, and Leliana founds the Inquisition and appoints your character to his role, leaving Cassandra as a potential party member while Leliana is off doing other things.  Or maybe she's a party member too.   If you look at known characters (4 warriors, 2 rogues, 1 mage with only 2 females vs. 5 males) it would make sense to have a female bard as the third rogue.  Then again, Leliana might have become too recognizable to be useful as a bard/spy.

I get the impression that Lambert and the Templar/Seekers had broken away from Chantry after the proper events of Dragon Age II but before the Varric/Cassandra interrogation, meaning that Cassandra and Leliana stayed loyal to Justinia and the Chantry even after many Templars/Seekers had seceded.  And so Justinia/Cassandra/Leliana were already engaged in an early version of the Inquisition.  I'm not sure though.  Maybe a lorenut or chronology master can clarify.

Who is youre 4th Warrior? So far I am only aware of Cassandra, Cullen and Iron Bull.

[ElitePinecone]

The older Grey Warden in the heavy armour...

(One of the writers, I think it was Sheryl Chee, even tweeted a few days ago that she was using her grandfather as an inspiration for a character's tone or voice)

[Renmiri1]

ElitePinecone wrote...

The older Grey Warden in the heavy armour...

(One of the writers, I think it was Sheryl Chee, even tweeted a few days ago that she was using her grandfather as an inspiration for a character's tone or voice)

Could that be our Warden or Alistair ? They would be 10-15 years older by the time DA3 takes place

[ElitePinecone]

Renmiri1 wrote...

ElitePinecone wrote...

The older Grey Warden in the heavy armour...

(One of the writers, I think it was Sheryl Chee, even tweeted a few days ago that she was using her grandfather as an inspiration for a character's tone or voice)

Could that be our Warden or Alistair ? They would be 10-15 years older by the time DA3 takes place

Both of those characters could be dead (or doing different things, or missing), so I don't think so. Plus even in Bioware's offshoot quasi-canon storyline Alistair is busy as King of Fereden, not running around in heavy armour 

The image is here, I'm talking about the upper one:



Edit: Now that I think about it, that's almost certainly Stroud. (edit: Stroud! He's not a shroud)

He announced that he'd be heading to Orlais at the end of DA2. 

Modifié par ElitePinecone, 19 août 2012 - 12:36 .

[saMoorai]

Well, If I really can have a four person party, then I'll probably be going full warrior. A Templar, Seeker, Grey Warden, and a Drunken Kossith sounds like it'd make for an interesting group..