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BrotherWarth wrote...

If we are playing this badass character who gets put in charge of saving the world I really feel like origins need to return. There's too much that would have to be predefined for such a character if we have no way to influence the backstory. It would be so lame to just be this guy that everyone knows is the biggest badass around and we're just moving him around during this grand adventure.
With the Warden we were basically what was left, the responsibility wasn't given to us by concerned parties. This Inquisitor seems like a ****ing cleaner like in Pulp Fiction who makes your problems go away. I don't think i would be alright with that unless we can shape who the character was before the 'save the world' story starts.
And really, doing origins would be much simpler now. They only have to account for 1 variable- male or female. We know we'll be playing a voiced human, there's no point in speculating about that. They really should give us origin options again and there's no reason not to.


Yeah, I'll be interested to see how our protagonist ends up as "The Inquisitor" and the reasons surrounding why he/she is at the peace gathering/in the general area. I can only presume that he/she will do something a bit special like save the life of one of the important people during the "magical blast" or something. 

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TamiBx wrote...

andar91 wrote...

Maybe we'll have a pawn-like character (Dragon's Dogma reference) that can be taken over for co-op purposes. Maybe a family member or something that's gender morphic. That could be the fifth party member. Maybe we could even choose their class, essentially giving us a second PC (gameplay only-personality and stuff should probably still be fixed).


Even though I love DD, I don't think it would be that useful or even natural to have one in the DA universe. DD is a open world/sandbox game, so it's fun to have a pawn who randomly goes to places and gets you gifts while you're asleep, but in DA it would look like you have a slave or something :?



I think it was a bad reference. I basically mean a full companion that is with you from the very beginning. That way you control them mechanically. All of the characters in DA2 and DA:O come with a certain flavor (like Anders being a healer and merrill being the opposite). It's only a few abilities, but it'd be nice if we could have more control over the companions' builds. Anyway, that's what I meant by like a pawn.

In any case, I don't think they'll do it, which is fine. It's a fun idea, but not a big deal.

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Ericander77 wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

This Article Regarding da3 PROVES I was right about bioware locking my thread and silently removing pics!!!

Conspiracy Theorist My left foot, Why would they bother having the hounds remove a Fake leak??



Exactly. :ph34r:


Awwww they even used my translation! I feel famous!

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That logo is cool looking. At least I think so.

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Emzamination wrote...

1. Not understanding your point...I linked to the earlier Article

News site

What? I was addressing the article you linked to in the quote. They're just copying and pasting blocks of text from this forum to get their news, apparently, so I don't know how inclined I am to trust them when they say they've been contacted by EA or what-have-you. And again, if they have, see points 2 and 3.

This new link appears to be broken.

3. Obviously you didn't read page 1 -3 :mellow: and what other threads?

I did, and now you're calling RaenImrahl a liar without proof and with a claim that doesn't make much sense, given that other threads like this one remain open.

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Filament wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

1. Not understanding your point...I linked to the earlier Article

News site

What? I was addressing the article you linked to in the quote. They're just copying and pasting blocks of text from this forum to get their news, apparently, so I don't know how inclined I am to trust them when they say they've been contacted by EA or what-have-you. And again, if they have, see points 2 and 3.

This new link appears to be broken.

3. Obviously you didn't read page 1 -3 :mellow: and what other threads?

I did, and now you're calling RaenImrahl a liar without proof and with a claim that doesn't make much sense, given that other threads like this one remain open.


1. The point isn't where they get their news, it's that they had an Article up about the first thread with the companion description Pics and It was suddenly taken down a few hours before the gameranx site I link was taken down. Why would they attempt to put the leaks back up but be too afraid to put up the concept art pictures as well? That doesn't make sense.

2. It wasn't just a forum rumor, a user tweeted that synopsis to mike laidlaw who neither denied nor confirmed it and in that 24 hour period, everything from The thread,news sites and pictures via the image host started getting taken down. coinkydink?

3. Without proof? You'll forgive me for my lack of displaying Private Pms.The writing is all over the walls.Your talking about this thread? If so This

:mellow:

Addendum: Of course the link isn't working,It was taken down, it's what's in your web bar that's important

Modifié par Emzamination, 19 août 2012 - 07:42 .


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You're not even reading the points I'm making, everything you said would require me to restate what I already said. And lol, first it was that article that proved it and now it's private PMs? Well OK, if you say so. Kind of shifty, though.

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LookingGlass93 wrote...

BrotherWarth wrote...
If we are playing this badass character who gets put in charge of saving the world I really feel like origins need to return.



I think the Mass Effect system of origins is a good compromise. You choose where you're from, what made you famous, and then get thrown into the action with some background specific sidequests later on.


You mean sidequest singular? The "origin" choice at the beginning of ME1 lead to 1 unique sidequest in ME1 and a few lines of unique dialogue here and there. It made almost no difference and didn't feel important since you just picked it from a list and never actually played it. The origins in DAO felt important because you lived through them. You actually felt that your character had struggled and deserved a place in the Grey Wardens.

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Filament wrote...

You're not even reading the points I'm making, everything you said would require me to restate what I already said. And lol, first it was that article that proved it and now it's private PMs? Well OK, if you say so. Kind of shifty, though.


Your argument is pretty nonsensical though. You say that the site isn't reliable because they got their info from this forum, even though they cite the info as unconfirmed and merely rumor. Then you try to cement your assertion of unreliablity by saying EA wouldn't contact them to tell them to take down the article/pictures. You're calling them liars and using your attack as proof that they're liars. It's not a good or sensible argument.

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Filament wrote...

You're not even reading the points I'm making, everything you said would require me to restate what I already said. And lol, first it was that article that proved it and now it's private PMs? Well OK, if you say so. Kind of shifty, though.


No, I'm pretty sure I adressed all 3 of your points

1- the site does not seem particularly trustworthy. - Check

2- even if EA did
pester them, it's plausible that they keep a closer watch on "news"
sites leaking anything than they do forum rumors. - Check

3- even if the same policy does guide them on the forums, you can't know that's the reason your
thread was locked. Whereas if it was, the implication would both make
RaenImrahl a liar and beg the question of why all these other threads
discussing the leaks have not also been locked. - Check

As far as Pms go, I did state I believe he was on orders to close that thread, Keep painting ^_^

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EJ107 wrote...

I'm sorry, but where is all this rubbish that you are a servant of the Chantry comming from? All we know from these supposed leaks is that the inquisitors are fighting demons and trying to sort out the world. Nowhere does it mention being part of the chantry at all- that is entirely an assumption on your part. 
 


The history of the order Edit

"Most people don't remember the Templar Order as it once was. In the days when the Chantry was still young, templars were known as the "Inquisition" and combed the land in search of all dangers to humanity—whether they came in the form of blood mages, abominations, cultists or heretics.

It was a dark and terrifying time in the history of Thedas, and one that only ended when the Chantry convinced the Inquisition to unite under the banner of their common faith.

This agreement, the Nevarran Accord, was struck in 1:20 Divine.
The Inquisition was then divided in two groups: the Seekers of Truth and the Templar Order, with the purpose of the Order becoming that of guardian and warden rather than hunter.

The Seekers of Truth and the Templar Order were once known as the Inquisition, a group of people who were fighting against dark magic after the First Blight. When the Chantry arose, the Andrastian organization convinced the Inquisition to unite under the banner of their common faith.


^Thats my rubbish. The inquisitor/templars/Seekers are working for the chantry for more than 800 years.

Modifié par Huntress, 19 août 2012 - 07:58 .


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Huntress wrote...

EJ107 wrote...

I'm sorry, but where is all this rubbish that you are a servant of the Chantry comming from? All we know from these supposed leaks is that the inquisitors are fighting demons and trying to sort out the world. Nowhere does it mention being part of the chantry at all- that is entirely an assumption on your part. 
 


The history of the order Edit

"Most people don't remember the Templar Order as it once was. In the days when the Chantry was still young, templars were known as the "Inquisition" and combed the land in search of all dangers to humanity—whether they came in the form of blood mages, abominations, cultists or heretics.

It was a dark and terrifying time in the history of Thedas, and one that only ended when the Chantry convinced the Inquisition to unite under the banner of their common faith.

This agreement, the Nevarran Accord, was struck in 1:20 Divine.
The Inquisition was then divided in two groups: the Seekers of Truth and the Templar Order, with the purpose of the Order becoming that of guardian and warden rather than hunter.

The Seekers of Truth and the Templar Order were once known as the Inquisition, a group of people who were fighting against dark magic after the First Blight. When the Chantry arose, the Andrastian organization convinced the Inquisition to unite under the banner of their common faith.


^Thats my rubbish. The inquisitor/templars/Seekers are working for the chantry for more than 800 years.



But the Inquisition itself was not an arm of the Chantry. When they merged with the Chantry the Inquisition ceased to be. Why bring back an organization that still exists under a new name? It seems like a logical inference that this Inquisition is not the same thing.

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I don't want to necessarily be religious though. And isn't the 'last leader of an ancient order dedicated to saving the world' like the most standard Bioware cliche ever?

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Cimeas wrote...

I don't want to necessarily be religious though. And isn't the 'last leader of an ancient order dedicated to saving the world' like the most standard Bioware cliche ever?


Where are you seeing that in the descriptions we have?

The Inquisition was split into the Templars and Seekers when it merged with the Chantry. It ceased to be. Our PC is put in charge of a new Inquisition to investigate and end this new threat. S/he's chosen to lead a new Inquisition.

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BrotherWarth wrote...

Your argument is pretty nonsensical though. You say that the site isn't reliable because they got their info from this forum, even though they cite the info as unconfirmed and merely rumor. Then you try to cement your assertion of unreliablity by saying EA wouldn't contact them to tell them to take down the article/pictures. You're calling them liars and using your attack as proof that they're liars. It's not a good or sensible argument.

They still literally copy pasted information they got from this forum. That's not professional. Add that to the fact that "galaxynextdoor" appears to be a no-name and you'll get why I said they don't seem to be trustworthy. Note the difference between that and calling them liars, because there is a difference.

And regardless, that wasn't the crux of my argument, if you didn't notice that my latter two points were EVEN IFs against the possibility that my first one was wrong.

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Huntress wrote...

EJ107 wrote...

I'm sorry, but where is all this rubbish that you are a servant of the Chantry comming from? All we know from these supposed leaks is that the inquisitors are fighting demons and trying to sort out the world. Nowhere does it mention being part of the chantry at all- that is entirely an assumption on your part. 
 


The history of the order Edit

"Most people don't remember the Templar Order as it once was. In the days when the Chantry was still young, templars were known as the "Inquisition" and combed the land in search of all dangers to humanity—whether they came in the form of blood mages, abominations, cultists or heretics.

It was a dark and terrifying time in the history of Thedas, and one that only ended when the Chantry convinced the Inquisition to unite under the banner of their common faith.

This agreement, the Nevarran Accord, was struck in 1:20 Divine.
The Inquisition was then divided in two groups: the Seekers of Truth and the Templar Order, with the purpose of the Order becoming that of guardian and warden rather than hunter.

The Seekers of Truth and the Templar Order were once known as the Inquisition, a group of people who were fighting against dark magic after the First Blight. When the Chantry arose, the Andrastian organization convinced the Inquisition to unite under the banner of their common faith.


^Thats my rubbish. The inquisitor/templars/Seekers are working for the chantry for more than 800 years.



But that's the old Inquisition.  We don't know how the new one will be different.  It probably will be though, given that the Inquisitor can be a mage.

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Dragon Age 3 logo:
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Source: http://www.onlysp.co...s-dragon-age-3/



ok, now this pretty much proves an announcement is coming, THEY HAVE THE LOGO 

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Filament wrote...

BrotherWarth wrote...

Your argument is pretty nonsensical though. You say that the site isn't reliable because they got their info from this forum, even though they cite the info as unconfirmed and merely rumor. Then you try to cement your assertion of unreliablity by saying EA wouldn't contact them to tell them to take down the article/pictures. You're calling them liars and using your attack as proof that they're liars. It's not a good or sensible argument.

They still literally copy pasted information they got from this forum. That's not professional. Add that to the fact that "galaxynextdoor" appears to be a no-name and you'll get why I said they don't seem to be trustworthy. Note the difference between that and calling them liars, because there is a difference.

And regardless, that wasn't the crux of my argument, if you didn't notice that my latter two points were EVEN IFs against the possibility that my first one was wrong.


But you have no argument. You have an opinion. There's a difference. You're saying "I don't think that's credible because I don't think it's credible." That's not an argument, that's a statement.

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Oh come on, we all know we'll find the ancient Inquisitor secret lair hidden somewhere and there'll be some huge revelation that they kept from the chantry in it. Don't you? This is Bioware, you can almost predict the game's plot! :)

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BrotherWarth wrote...

But you have no argument. You have an opinion. There's a difference. You're saying "I don't think that's credible because I don't think it's credible." That's not an argument, that's a statement.

I thought I was saying I don't think it's credible because it's an unprofessional "blogzine" no one has heard of, but if you want to interpret it that way, go right ahead.

And let's not let it be lost in your misinterpretations, the part where I said this wasn't the crux of my argument regardless.

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BrotherWarth wrote...

Cimeas wrote...

I don't want to necessarily be religious though. And isn't the 'last leader of an ancient order dedicated to saving the world' like the most standard Bioware cliche ever?


Where are you seeing that in the descriptions we have?

The Inquisition was split into the Templars and Seekers when it merged with the Chantry. It ceased to be. Our PC is put in charge of a new Inquisition to investigate and end this new threat. S/he's chosen to lead a new Inquisition.

 
If you go by everything that has been discovered/rumored on this forum, the NEW inqisition will most likely be set up to fight demonic things coming through the "the breach" in the veil. and gethering an army, and to do that we'll be solving the world's problems (kinda like in ME3, but i don't have a porblem with that). 

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BrotherWarth wrote...

But the Inquisition itself was not an arm of the Chantry. When they merged with the Chantry the Inquisition ceased to be. Why bring back an organization that still exists under a new name? It seems like a logical inference that this Inquisition is not the same thing.


They never ceased to be ( I need prove that inquisitor order stoped after signing with the chantry, there is NO Record of it), they become a part of the chantry .. like a right hand.  The order split into templars/seekers it doesn't say that Inquisitor order are no more..

"The Seekers of Truth and the Templar Order were once known as the Inquisition, a group of people who were fighting against dark magic after the First Blight. When the Chantry arose, the Andrastian organization convinced the Inquisition to unite under the banner of their common faith."

IF the inquisitor order stoped to be then how the heck DA3 is about playing as one? do that make any sense to you? Gosh Im already getting the hint da3 is going to be bad game hahaha!

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Huntress wrote...

BrotherWarth wrote...

But the Inquisition itself was not an arm of the Chantry. When they merged with the Chantry the Inquisition ceased to be. Why bring back an organization that still exists under a new name? It seems like a logical inference that this Inquisition is not the same thing.


They never ceased to be ( I need prove that inquisitor order stoped after signing with the chantry, there is NO Record of it), they become a part of the chantry .. like a right hand.  The order split into templars/seekers it doesn't say that Inquisitor order are no more..

"The Seekers of Truth and the Templar Order were once known as the Inquisition, a group of people who were fighting against dark magic after the First Blight. When the Chantry arose, the Andrastian organization convinced the Inquisition to unite under the banner of their common faith."

IF the inquisitor order stoped to be then how the heck DA3 is about playing as one? do that make any sense to you? Gosh Im already getting the hint da3 is going to be bad game hahaha!


they bring it back. it's not pro-anything except killing evil things. but you'll shape it to be pro-mage, pro-qunari or whatever the hell you want it to be. 

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Going back a bit, but what is the following from?

]Wiedzmin182009 wrote...

http://www.dragon-ag...ype=orig&id=545[/b]





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DAII Collector's Edition Guide for... Lowtown IIRC. I'm fairly certain it was in that book.