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[R2s Muse]

 David Gaider's Thedas UK interview suggests the Inquisition no longer exists because it became the Seekers and the Templars. 

"As a matter of fact the Templars were once all part of a group called the Inquisition. There was an Inquisition in Thedas. It existed around the time that the Chantry started to come to be. This was a time after the First Blight, after Andraste's March, when there was chaos everywhere, the Imperium had broken apart, you had the Old God cults, so a lot of blood magic. There was a lot of chaos, you had the cults of Andraste...and the Inquisition sort of arose as a group of people who said "Enough is enough, somebody has to do something about this magic that is tearing apart the world." And when the Chantry came to be they went to the Inquisition and said "Hey, we're of the same mind on this, why don't we pull together" and that's when the Inquisition turned into the Seekers and the Templar Order. They kind of merged. It'd be interesting to see if the Inquisition ever rose up again."

Modifié par R2s Muse, 19 août 2012 - 08:34 .

[R2s Muse]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

DAII Collector's Edition Guide for... Lowtown IIRC. I'm fairly certain it was in that book.

Ah thanks. Hmm... What the heck is that dog statue thing...? For all the time I've spent in Lowtown, don't believe I've ever seen it. LOL

[Emzamination]

Filament wrote...

BrotherWarth wrote...

Your argument is pretty nonsensical though. You say that the site isn't reliable because they got their info from this forum, even though they cite the info as unconfirmed and merely rumor. Then you try to cement your assertion of unreliablity by saying EA wouldn't contact them to tell them to take down the article/pictures. You're calling them liars and using your attack as proof that they're liars. It's not a good or sensible argument.

They still literally copy pasted information they got from this forum. That's not professional. Add that to the fact that "galaxynextdoor" appears to be a no-name and you'll get why I said they don't seem to be trustworthy. Note the difference between that and calling them liars, because there is a difference.

And regardless, that wasn't the crux of my argument, if you didn't notice that my latter two points were EVEN IFs against the possibility that my first one was wrong.

Gameranx did the same thing and they are far from unprofessional, yet they had the same article taken down as well.Multiple gaming news sites have the exact same article taken down simultaneously, all within a 24 hour period of the creative director reading the leaked synopsis which I repeat he neither confirmed nor denyed but simply brushed off by complimenting the paragraph substance and you don't find that the least bit suspicious?

As far as the mod goes, he stated he closed the thread because I didn't verify my sources.This is Bsn and there are Far worse threads that can be classified under 'troll' than 'supposed' rumors, that remain open.Even if he was genuine in this belief the thread would've remained open under "Speculation".If you look back at the thread, CM chris posted in the thread Pre-mike and threatened to close it do to a user talking about real world religion but not 'trolling'.

Yet a mod who never even patrols this neck of the forums closes it not even 6 hours later proclaiming troll thread.and you'll notice when I question him about chris, he blows it off.When I  Implie he acted on orders, he stops responding all together.You ask why go through all the trouble for a cover up? Like I said before, they didn't want to draw any official attention to it because that's as good as confirmation.The mod asked "Why didn't we delete the thread then?", That's easy - to play on community doubt and keep suspicion to a minimum.Its far better to delete what's behind the link than to delete the link itself and start questions flying.Believe what you want fila, I know a cover up

[Wulfram]

They might just be using "inquisitor" because it gives the idea more easily for a quick summary than having to explain what a seeker is. Or the Templars might be calling themselves inquisitors now they've dumped the chantry.

[BioFan (Official)]

R2s Muse wrote...

 David Gaider's Thedas UK interview suggests the Inquisition no longer exists because it became the Seekers and the Templars. 

"As a matter of fact the Templars were once all part of a group called the Inquisition. There was an Inquisition in Thedas. It existed around the time that the Chantry started to come to be. This was a time after the First Blight, after Andraste's March, when there was chaos everywhere, the Imperium had broken apart, you had the Old God cults, so a lot of blood magic. There was a lot of chaos, you had the cults of Andraste...and the Inquisition sort of arose as a group of people who said "Enough is enough, somebody has to do something about this magic that is tearing apart the world." And when the Chantry came to be they went to the Inquisition and said "Hey, we're of the same mind on this, why don't we pull together" and that's when the Inquisition turned into the Seekers and the Templar Order. They kind of merged. It'd be interesting to see if the Inquisition ever rose up again."

way to tease us with that last sentence there Gaider 

[R2s Muse]

@ericander, for completeness, you know, they mentioned a new inquisition explicitly in the DA2 strategy guide's epilogue as well. I quoted the text at some point last week over on the Cullen thread, if anyone's interested (on iPad so can't easily share...)

[Personality Disorder]

Beware, Dragon Age: Asunder Spoilers:















The novel practically ends with the Nevarran Accord being declared null and void by the Templars and the Seekers, who have seemingly abamdoned the chantry. This is essentially a rebirth of the Inquisition. Although I am sure, that the order won't function in the exact same way as it did ages ago, especially if our protagonist is going to become one of its members.

Edit: have no idea why colour coding does not work for me.

Modifié par Personality Disorder, 19 août 2012 - 09:03 .

[TamiBx]

What I think the PC will be doing is trying to solve the problem of Templars and Mages, and in the process you can be pro-Chantry, pro-Templar and Mages peace, pro-Mages...whatever the heck you want.

[Emzamination]

Filament wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

Yet a mod who never even patrols this neck of the forums closes it not even 6 hours later proclaiming troll thread.and you'll notice when I question him about chris, he blows it off.When I  Implie he acted on orders, he stops responding all together.You ask why go through all the trouble for a cover up? Like I said before, they didn't want to draw any official attention to it because that's as good as confirmation.The mod asked "Why didn't we delete the thread then?", That's easy - to play on community doubt and keep suspicion to a minimum.Its far better to delete what's behind the link than to delete the link itself and start questions flying.Believe what you want fila, I know a cover up

There were a lot of people on your thread who were complaining that your information was probably fake. Moderators don't necessarily "patrol" forums as such, much of their moderating relies on people reporting threads to them. One of those people probably reported your thread.

And again, the coverup idea hardly makes sense considering that this thread is still open, with links in it to far more concept art from the leak than even your thread had.

Lets say it was a troll thread, why not edit the op and delete the troll content or at the very least remove the links citing unconfirmed?

Yes it makes perfect sense to close the second thread while under suspicion from the first, that wouldn't be confirming at all, no? This thread contains concept art and Why would they rip that down? What harm could pictures do?

[Huntress]

Well is cemented then, the inquisition order will rise again! but this time without the chantry ruling them and still beliving in the maker but not Andraste.
so it follows this new inquisitors do not recognize This agreement, the Nevarran Accord in 1:20 Divine right? This new group will fight agasint mages, demons and whatever.. am I right?

I think this is terrible for the mages, more zealot imposing how mages should live or govern their Maker given powers.. meh.

Modifié par Huntress, 19 août 2012 - 09:22 .

[Personality Disorder]

Huntress wrote...

Well is cemented then, the inquisition order will rise again! but this time without the chantry ruling them and still beliving in the maker but not Andraste.
so it follows this new inquisitors do not recognize This agreement, the Nevarran Accord in 1:20 Divine right? This new group will fight agasint mages, demons and whatever.. am I right?

Well, we don't know that yet, but it seems to be a fairly reasonable conclusion. I mean, the Templars and the Seekers have not officially declared themselves to be an Inquisition once again, but they have abandoned their agreement with the Chantry and no longer respect  the Nevarran Accord. So, technically, they are not much different from the Inquisition of old. 

[Emzamination]

Filament wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

Lets say it was a troll thread, why not edit the op and delete the troll content or at the very least remove the links citing unconfirmed?

Because they don't edit troll threads, they lock them. He judged that it was trolling with false info so he locked it. I haven't seen them delete threads unless there's offensive imagery or the spamming of multiple threads at once. (mangiraffedog etc)

Yes it makes perfect sense to close the second thread while under suspicion from the first, that wouldn't be confirming at all, no? This thread contains concept art and Why would they rip that down? What harm could pictures do?

If that's your logic, then why did they even lock your thread? That just puts them under suspicion, and they didn't even get rid of the material they intended to get rid of because another thread popped up. As if they wouldn't have expected another one to pop up?

Is it so hard to believe that he honestly thought you were trolling, but then when other people corroborated your story he realized he may have been wrong?

Yet the Images dissapeared

I didn't post concept art, I posted potential companion descriptions. Would you be able to put a name to sera from just staring at her picture? Didn't think so

When news sites start citing they were contacted to remove content, yes. You can't....Ugh forget it, it's like talking to a Onyx wall <_<

[Huntress]

Personality Disorder wrote...

Huntress wrote...

Well is cemented then, the inquisition order will rise again! but this time without the chantry ruling them and still beliving in the maker but not Andraste.
so it follows this new inquisitors do not recognize This agreement, the Nevarran Accord in 1:20 Divine right? This new group will fight agasint mages, demons and whatever.. am I right?

Well, we don't know that yet, but it seems to be a fairly reasonable conclusion. I mean, the Templars and the Seekers have not officially declared themselves to be an Inquisition once again, but they have abandoned their agreement with the Chantry and no longer respect  the Nevarran Accord. So, technically, they are not much different from the Inquisition of old. 

The templars probably... the seekers are working for the chantry, or Da2 ending is going to the trash.. not surprise here.. Da2 ending was terrible.

[Personality Disorder]

Huntress wrote...

Personality Disorder wrote...

Huntress wrote...

Well is cemented then, the inquisition order will rise again! but this time without the chantry ruling them and still beliving in the maker but not Andraste.
so it follows this new inquisitors do not recognize This agreement, the Nevarran Accord in 1:20 Divine right? This new group will fight agasint mages, demons and whatever.. am I right?

Well, we don't know that yet, but it seems to be a fairly reasonable conclusion. I mean, the Templars and the Seekers have not officially declared themselves to be an Inquisition once again, but they have abandoned their agreement with the Chantry and no longer respect  the Nevarran Accord. So, technically, they are not much different from the Inquisition of old. 

The templars probably... the seekers are working for the chantry, or Da2 ending is going to the trash.. not surprise here.. Da2 ending was terrible.

Actually, they are not. Cassandra and her troops at the end of Dragon Age 2 might have been a bit of a special case - a splitnter group still loyal to the Divine. Cassandra is her right hand, after all (established in the Dawn of the Seeker) and Leliana - left (spec ops)).

Edit: on the other hand you might be right, as the novel shows a clear intent on the part of the Templar Commander (he sends the Divine a letter that mentions both Seekers and Templars leaving the Chantry), but we don't ever see how (and if) the said letter is received.

Modifié par Personality Disorder, 19 août 2012 - 09:40 .

[Melca36]

Game content does not mean you will be forced to play ANTI Mage.

Anyway, I think the reason the developers have let this thread stay is because only 10-20% has made it into the actual game and they're getting a good laugh at people buying into the hype.

[Personality Disorder]

Melca36 wrote...

Game content does not mean you will be forced to play ANTI Mage.

Anyway, I think the reason the developers have let this thread stay is because only 10-20% has made it into the actual game and they're getting a good laugh at people buying into the hype.

It's not hype, it's just fun to speculate sometimes. And if the developers are having a laugh at our expense - well, good for them, I imagine that's most of what they can take from these boards anyway.

[ianvillan]

Melca36 wrote...

Game content does not mean you will be forced to play ANTI Mage.

Anyway, I think the reason the developers have let this thread stay is because only 10-20% has made it into the actual game and they're getting a good laugh at people buying into the hype.

I dont think that is the case because hype has a chance of backfiring on you, especially if the fans believe that certain things will be happening in the game that aren't. 

Biowares statement was that they want to show not tell and that they want feedback from the fans, They have not done any of those things yet and probably wont but if they were to do it, it would not be done in secret.

[Huntress]

ianvillan wrote...

Melca36 wrote...

Game content does not mean you will be forced to play ANTI Mage.

Anyway, I think the reason the developers have let this thread stay is because only 10-20% has made it into the actual game and they're getting a good laugh at people buying into the hype.

I dont think that is the case because hype has a chance of backfiring on you, especially if the fans believe that certain things will be happening in the game that aren't. 

Biowares statement was that they want to show not tell and that they want feedback from the fans, They have not done any of those things yet and probably wont but if they were to do it, it would not be done in secret.

You are right, is ok if they have an inquisitor whos order is not part of the chantry, wich  believe in the Maker but not andraste and the Andrastians rules, I got that part now, What I want to know is if you are forced to play that.

Thats my problem, forced to play a inquisitor when I do not wish to play as one, and I dought this order do not belive in ANdraste when the Maker only spoke to her.. lol! see how everything is round and around, I think this Da3 is going to be as bad as me3, there is very little room left for me to stop thinking this way.

Anyway i do not care if an inquisitor is a companion I dought a mage will ever be inquisitor her/himself when there is a chance that this mage will go up in flames and doom Thedas.

Modifié par Huntress, 19 août 2012 - 10:00 .

[Melca36]

BrotherWarth wrote...

Melca36 wrote...

Anyway, I think the reason the developers have let this thread stay is because only 10-20% has made it into the actual game and they're getting a good laugh at people buying into the hype.

That's... really dumb. Why would they want feedback and market research on things that aren't in the game? These surveys are not old you know.

Lets rehash this when the game comes out and then we'll see who is right and wrong.