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#1151
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rapscallioness wrote...

That said...these ideas sound very intriguing to me. I'm liking this. I hope we do have real options in how we lead the Inquisition. There are some intriguing options. Maybe even a little mix and match.

If they really work with this, DA3 might turn out to be a very Dynamic Action/Rpg.

I really, really don't want to be the buzzkill who complains about how DA2 did this and that wrong in this hype here, but please don't raise your expectations to the skies here. There's a risk you'll be disappointed if you think you'll be as free as the text sounds. Remember how you would get to shape how Hawke became the Champion? We didn't really get a lot of choice in that, it happened the same way every time. We were meant to get to feel like we were having a hand in it, but ultimately we did not.

I don't want you to be disappointed on release day. Nothing's more depressing than BSN following a game's launch when everyone's complaining about a game not living up to what they expected =)

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The fact that EA is sending out lawyers to get that info removed from gaming sites tells me there may be some truth to it. If it was all fake it would be a lot easier to just say on twitter or something. I personally don't mind being an inquisitor. Regarding the translated description, I like the idea of portals letting demons come through, but maybe that's just because I like the art of demon slaying.

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ElitePinecone wrote...

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Wait, what is all this talk about the Inquisition? Are they really going to make the origin of the protagonist to be a religious nut-cake? I understand why they want the protagonist to have a title, since writing the dialogue will be a lot easier, but that worked in DA:O due to the wardens not having any allegiance to a institution. I might be wrong when it comes to what the Inquisition really is but it sounds like a organization with a motive.

But besides that, any news regarding multiple races?


We don't really know but it sounds like a fresh organisation formed after a cataclysm (or in marketing-speak: "from the ashes of that explosion, something new rises"). I'd guess that the new Inquisition doesn't necessarily subscribe to the religious nut-cake model of the older one, not least because the Inquisitor can be a mage and several of the other companions appear to be mages, even a magister. 

(Also because if Cassandra really is a companion, she's definitely with Leliana on the more moderate, Divine-allied faction/wing of the Chantry.) 


Alright fair enough. But where have you gotten the impression that Cassandra will be a companion? I thought her accent and general voice acting was horrible in DA2 so i hope there is nothing to this.

Modifié par Cstaf, 20 août 2012 - 03:32 .


#1154
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RinjiRenee wrote...

Cstaf wrote...

Wait, what is all this talk about the Inquisition? Are they really going to make the origin of the protagonist to be a religious nut-cake? I understand why they want the protagonist to have a title, since writing the dialogue will be a lot easier, but that worked in DA:O due to the wardens not having any allegiance to a institution. I might be wrong when it comes to what the Inquisition really is but it sounds like a organization with a motive.

But besides that, any news regarding multiple races?


Ah I love how the BSN makes these wild accusations when there isn't even a freaking game announced yet.

We get a small blurb of a vague possibility and we immediately jump to EXTREMES.


lol silly people... just calm down and be happy there is any 'news' at all. Even seeing a rumer for DA3 makes my day but I'm waiting for more offical info. 

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KiddDaBeauty wrote...

rapscallioness wrote...

That said...these ideas sound very intriguing to me. I'm liking this. I hope we do have real options in how we lead the Inquisition. There are some intriguing options. Maybe even a little mix and match.

If they really work with this, DA3 might turn out to be a very Dynamic Action/Rpg.

I really, really don't want to be the buzzkill who complains about how DA2 did this and that wrong in this hype here, but please don't raise your expectations to the skies here. There's a risk you'll be disappointed if you think you'll be as free as the text sounds. Remember how you would get to shape how Hawke became the Champion? We didn't really get a lot of choice in that, it happened the same way every time. We were meant to get to feel like we were having a hand in it, but ultimately we did not.

I don't want you to be disappointed on release day. Nothing's more depressing than BSN following a game's launch when everyone's complaining about a game not living up to what they expected =)


True, don't have too high of expectations (that's always a good approach, although it's much more fun to be in the moment and let your emotions take over, but that's just me^^), but I think the Bioware team has learned something about the way DA2 has been perceived.

So when they have something to show, they will let us see it, and then we can judge for ourselves (and overanalyse the crap out of it^^)..^_^

#1156
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Cstaf wrote...

ElitePinecone wrote...

Cstaf wrote...

Wait, what is all this talk about the Inquisition? Are they really going to make the origin of the protagonist to be a religious nut-cake? I understand why they want the protagonist to have a title, since writing the dialogue will be a lot easier, but that worked in DA:O due to the wardens not having any allegiance to a institution. I might be wrong when it comes to what the Inquisition really is but it sounds like a organization with a motive.

But besides that, any news regarding multiple races?


We don't really know but it sounds like a fresh organisation formed after a cataclysm (or in marketing-speak: "from the ashes of that explosion, something new rises"). I'd guess that the new Inquisition doesn't necessarily subscribe to the religious nut-cake model of the older one, not least because the Inquisitor can be a mage and several of the other companions appear to be mages, even a magister. 

(Also because if Cassandra really is a companion, she's definitely with Leliana on the more moderate, Divine-allied faction/wing of the Chantry.) 


Alright fair enough. But where have you gotten the impression that Cassandra will be a companion? I thought her accent and general voice acting was horrible in DA2 so i hope there is nothing to this.



She's one of the characters in the concept art reel, it looks like. Not that those will necessarily be companions, but it's what looks likely (the Bioware artist, Matt I-forget-his-last-name, also did companion concept art for DA2).

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RinjiRenee wrote...

Cstaf wrote...

Wait, what is all this talk about the Inquisition? Are they really going to make the origin of the protagonist to be a religious nut-cake? I understand why they want the protagonist to have a title, since writing the dialogue will be a lot easier, but that worked in DA:O due to the wardens not having any allegiance to a institution. I might be wrong when it comes to what the Inquisition really is but it sounds like a organization with a motive.

But besides that, any news regarding multiple races?


Ah I love how the BSN makes these wild accusations when there isn't even a freaking game announced yet.

We get a small blurb of a vague possibility and we immediately jump to EXTREMES.


Wild accusations? All i know is that there is no moderate institution whether it be from games, movies or European history that would suggest anything other than that. The Inquisition in DA3 might very well be a reasonable institution but you will open yourself up to these kinds of speculations when naming it thus.

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Emzamination wrote...

Spicen wrote...

News Flash this thread is so popular that diff gaming sites are linking this thread. Good job Earth bron shepherd


Source

"Update: EA's lawyers have contacted us and demanded that we take down the character images and list of possible subtitles for Dragon Age 3.
While it's annoying to pull content, the upside is that this takedown
notice seems to confirm the legitimacy of the rumored survey.
"

No more leaks for me, too much heat :mellow:





That seals the deal for me.

#1159
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Yep, it's on IGN.
http://uk.ign.com/ar...3-questionnaire

They say they've "reached out to EA for comment"

Modifié par Windninja47, 20 août 2012 - 03:51 .


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oh god
I never meant for it to get that far
holy crap :D

#1161
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Thank God that they're continuing the Mage/Templar plotline.

I was afraid that with DA2 underperforming they'd drop it, completely invalidating the entire game.

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Emzamination wrote...

Spicen wrote...

News Flash this thread is so popular that diff gaming sites are linking this thread. Good job Earth bron shepherd


Source

"Update: EA's lawyers have contacted us and demanded that we take down the character images and list of possible subtitles for Dragon Age 3.
While it's annoying to pull content, the upside is that this takedown
notice seems to confirm the legitimacy of the rumored survey.
"

No more leaks for me, too much heat :mellow:




Ha ha ha. Now we know that this is true. Fake is not removed.:devil:

#1163
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I wish they would just put the whole mage/templar conflict on the sidequest storyline. It was never that compelling for me. In DA2 I was looking for the option of ignoring both of the lunatic sides.

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Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

oh god
I never meant for it to get that far
holy crap :D


Be happy man u have just come under the spotlight of EA(lawyers). The whole DA fans now know u.Image IPB

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Since Bioware have some competent writers, I can't see them calling an organisation "the Inquisition" unless it's with the intent that people would be, at least initially, sceptical of them.

If you say Inquisition, people are going to think torturers. Well, and monty python.

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Jamie9 wrote...

Thank God that they're continuing the Mage/Templar plotline.


Agreed! Although to be honest I was never all that worried about it disappearing into the ether; after Asunder, that plot point has gained so much momentum that there was no way it wasn't going to have a monumental effect on the next game.

#1167
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Spicen wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

oh god
I never meant for it to get that far
holy crap :D


Be happy man u have just come under the spotlight of EA(lawyers). The whole DA fans now know u.Image IPB


I'm gonna count on you all for protesting if I end up in jail :ph34r:

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Wulfram wrote...

Since Bioware have some competent writers, I can't see them calling an organisation "the Inquisition" unless it's with the intent that people would be, at least initially, sceptical of them.

If you say Inquisition, people are going to think torturers. Well, and monty python.


I was thinking that part of it could be a sense of subverting the trope, or having the opportunity to turn what was a feared organisation into something approaching an even-handed investigation (and it even ties back into the marketing bullet points of deciding how to approach each situation). 

The choice of name is surely deliberate, but that doesn't mean it implies religiously-motivated torture and killing, etc.

For all we know the Divine or some other VIP gives the player the title and power of Inquisitor (with all the legitimacy that implies in Chantry nations) but with carte blanche (pardon my Orlesian) to uncover the mystery and stop it as they see fit. 

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Wulfram wrote...

Since Bioware have some competent writers, I can't see them calling an organisation "the Inquisition" unless it's with the intent that people would be, at least initially, sceptical of them.

If you say Inquisition, people are going to think torturers. Well, and monty python.


Mel Brooks and dancing monks.

The Inquisition Hear we Go!
The Inquisition What a Show!

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ElitePinecone wrote...

Cstaf wrote...

Wait, what is all this talk about the Inquisition? Are they really going to make the origin of the protagonist to be a religious nut-cake? I understand why they want the protagonist to have a title, since writing the dialogue will be a lot easier, but that worked in DA:O due to the wardens not having any allegiance to a institution. I might be wrong when it comes to what the Inquisition really is but it sounds like a organization with a motive.

But besides that, any news regarding multiple races?


We don't really know but it sounds like a fresh organisation formed after a cataclysm (or in marketing-speak: "from the ashes of that explosion, something new rises"). I'd guess that the new Inquisition doesn't necessarily subscribe to the religious nut-cake model of the older one, not least because the Inquisitor can be a mage and several of the other companions appear to be mages, even a magister. 

(Also because if Cassandra really is a companion, she's definitely with Leliana on the more moderate, Divine-allied faction/wing of the Chantry.) 


Not to mention that the initial Inquisition had nothing to do with the Chantry. I understand that the word carries a number of negative connotations in the real world, but it is important to remember that not all of it is applicable to Thedas. In Dragon Age universe, Inquisition's creed has not been based on an ambiguous religious doctrine, nor has it been a result of irrational rigidness of mind: it stemmed from pure necessity to protect the population from the threats posed by daemons and, yes, magic users with less sense than power.

Inquisition has been formed as an order of guardians, willing to sacrifice themselves to put an end to the plague terrorrising the world. In fact, there is very little difference between them and rather well-loved here Grey Wardens, they just serve a different purpose.

So no, Inquisition, has never been a group of "religious nut-cakes" and I see even less sense for them to become one if our protagonist is to join their numbers.

Modifié par Personality Disorder, 20 août 2012 - 04:04 .


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So the main character will be part of the Inquisition, an institution related to the Chantry? Does that force players to join a religious cause?
Plots I've read are not bad, just like the characters, but I hope Bioware reintroduce old characters to give more "continuity" and "unity" to the saga.
Sorry, English isn´t my native language. It's hard to keep myself informed about leaks.

Modifié par Guiverno, 20 août 2012 - 04:09 .


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Regarding Inquisition, maybe some non-crazies take up the name Inquisition and meet the skepticism head on before legitimate crazies get a chance to use the name and, well, do crazy stuff in part due to borrowing authority from the past.

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Guiverno wrote...

So the main character will be part of the Inquisition, an institution related to the Chantry? Does that forces players to join a religious cause?
Plots I've read are not bad, just like the characters, but I hope Bioware reintroduce old characters to give more "continuity" and "unity" to the saga.
Sorry, English isn´t my native language. It's hard to keep myself informed about leaks.


Read my comment just above yours)

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Well, I hope they don't name it DA3: The Inquisition. I just can't see, or hear, anything else than Mel Brookes.

The Breach....nooo....I just don't like that. DA3: The Breach...wat? No.

What else did they have? Apocrypha?Hmm... Idk. They need to work on it. Maybe use some Latin term.....?

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rapscallioness wrote...

Well, I hope they don't name it DA3: The Inquisition. I just can't see, or hear, anything else than Mel Brookes.

The Breach....nooo....I just don't like that. DA3: The Breach...wat? No.

What else did they have? Apocrypha?Hmm... Idk. They need to work on it. Maybe use some Latin term.....?


I think that out of the options presented in the survey, The Breach is the worst title, by far.

Would not really mind either Inquisitor or Inquisition (although they do have problems)), and Apocrypha and Exarch seem way too specific.