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#101
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thats1evildude wrote...

I've often heard that you do voice work before you do the animation. This survey seems to be mostly about the visual design of the characters, so that checks out.

OR MAYBE IT'S ALL FAKE


I think the end of your post is missing this: www.dramabutton.com/

I'm not taking sides, it coyld be fake, or then it's real.

But I'm sure someone at Bioware is reading this thread and acting like this: www.youtube.com/watch

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Fake, legit, or just a simple hallucination. Whatever it is, it doesn't matter to me, because all I know is that playing a character pigeonholed into having some set of beliefs that clash with how I want to play or does things that my character wouldn't have done makes for a craptastic game.


This I can agree with. However, we still don't know if it's real and we don't know that much about the group. So I'll try to keep my hopes up.

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The description said something about a greater force that is responsible for f*cking sh*t up if I remember correctly.. guess that will be the main enemy, whatever it is

oh and.. maybe Em can confirm that.. I thing Darkspawn was mentioned somewhere

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Emzamination wrote...

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They just said you would be a character in the Inquisition. Doesn't mean you'll be Chantry lover. Maybe it's a new order. Maybe you get to be a rebel and over throw everything. Maybe you get to build a new order and shape it the way you want: pro Chantry or anti Chantry, We don't know anything at all at this point. Not even if this is real.

People are so fast to judge. Hahaha.


That is exactly what the synopsis said so I don't understand why everyone's crying pro-chantry :mellow:


Because the Templar order was called the Inquestion before joining with the Chantry. Which is why I say it is also a loaded name in game universe.

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Maybe they like the idea of the seekers but it was too related to the chantry...
Why bother creating inquisitor when seeker does sound better , act almost the same , and are already in the game?

It may be a new order like mentions above...maybe one where templars and mages rogue work together ..

Edit : darkspawn problem are mentionned in Ferelden .If i remember correctly.
Also the civil war in orlais , the templars/mages clash/ the ultimate downfall of the chantry...
Seems like the inquisitor are gonna do more than just look at the chantry problems.

Modifié par Reznore57, 15 août 2012 - 07:09 .


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Surprise theory: Maybe the Chantry isn't that bad, but like any institution, is vulnerable to corruption despite all of its good intentions?

No way.

But at any rate, way too early to start making judgments now.

Modifié par RinjiRenee, 15 août 2012 - 07:09 .


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Then it can mean that they will rebuild the Order, but you get to pick if it will go Pro Chantry or Pro Mage. They're making improvements, you know. Or at least they're supposed to.

edit: I like darkspawn. I always thought they would make DA3 not only about Mage vs Templar but also darkspawns, Orlais...

Modifié par TamiBx, 15 août 2012 - 07:11 .


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esper wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

esper wrote...

I hope, hope, hope, this is not true. Inquestioner holds a very loaded meaning both in game and in real world and the though of going a whole game with people calling me that makes me feel very badly.
If thi turn out to be true, da3 will really be my last dragon age game :-(


THE INQUISITION HAS BEGUN!!!! :o


I did read the former thread. I am just saying one thing is being forced to have such a loaded title, but just imagine everyone calling me it. For an entire game. I am not even sure I could get through it.

I pray that if they do go this route our companions at the very least call the protagonist by last name.


I dunno, the title makes me feel like a bad ass enforcer :P

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Oh, one thing that kind of troubles me...

in the survey I had to state whether I not I find it important to have the option to play as both genders

I'm hoping they're not toying with the idea of making a standard male char (or female, though less likely). Imagine the sh*tstorm!

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Emzamination wrote...

I dunno, the title makes me feel like a bad ass enforcer :P


"Inquisitor" does roll off the tongue better than "Findey-Outey-Guy."

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Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

The description said something about a greater force that is responsible for f*cking sh*t up if I remember correctly.. guess that will be the main enemy, whatever it is

oh and.. maybe Em can confirm that.. I thing Darkspawn was mentioned somewhere


Yep, it claimed that the people of ferelden were recovering from the darkspawn attack 10 years ago so da3 will be set a decade after the warden defeated the blight? Which would make the OGB not the main protagonist :crying:

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The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Fake, legit, or just a simple hallucination. Whatever it is, it doesn't matter to me, because all I know is that playing a character pigeonholed into having some set of beliefs that clash with how I want to play or does things that my character wouldn't have done makes for a craptastic game.


I'm not worried about it. Especially after reading Davids comments here.

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Reznore57 wrote...

Maybe they like the idea of the seekers but it was too related to the chantry...
Why bother creating inquisitor when seeker does sound better , act almost the same , and are already in the game?

It may be a new order like mentions above...maybe one where templars and mages rogue work together ..


I am hoping that if it is true it is an enitrely new order whose ideals we as player could help form because it has yet to take a stance on anything (and have just decided that something must be done), that would be 'awesome'. espically if it is your main character forming it, deciding what it stands for and who it sides with.

But much more realistic I fear that it is just seeker ver 2, who are pro-chantry, 

I still think they should have chosen a group name that didn already exist in the universe.

 

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esper wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

They just said you would be a character in the Inquisition. Doesn't mean you'll be Chantry lover. Maybe it's a new order. Maybe you get to be a rebel and over throw everything. Maybe you get to build a new order and shape it the way you want: pro Chantry or anti Chantry, We don't know anything at all at this point. Not even if this is real.

People are so fast to judge. Hahaha.


That is exactly what the synopsis said so I don't understand why everyone's crying pro-chantry :mellow:


Because the Templar order was called the Inquestion before joining with the Chantry. Which is why I say it is also a loaded name in game universe.


But the description clearly states the explosion happened in the middle of a peace meeting which would mean both mages and templars were attempting to broker peace.I guess after the explosion a new order will be born to replace the chantry or mold it into something new like an imperium :wizard:

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Emzamination wrote...

esper wrote...

I hope, hope, hope, this is not true. Inquestioner holds a very loaded meaning both in game and in real world and the though of going a whole game with people calling me that makes me feel very badly.
If thi turn out to be true, da3 will really be my last dragon age game :-(


THE INQUISITION HAS BEGUN!!!! :o


Wait, are these supposed to be suggestions of names? As in names for the game?

If so, boy are they bad.

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Reznore57 wrote...

Why bother creating inquisitor when seeker does sound better , act almost the same , and are already in the game?


The inquisition sounds far better than the seekers. Plus it has real world feather and comfy pillow based connatations or well, dark sinister ones depending.

Presupposing allegiance is awkward but then I didnt really like the plotforcewarden either but I am that sort of contrarian I guess.

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Suddenly I desperately want the new protag to be the Inquisitor just so I can LOL at the silliness of people assuming it *must* be pro-Chantry for the next year or two.

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thats1evildude wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

I dunno, the title makes me feel like a bad ass enforcer :P


"Inquisitor" does roll off the tongue better than "Findey-Outey-Guy."


It does tend to strike fear into the heart =]

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The evil force driving Thedas into chaos is the new intelligent Darkspawn allies of the Grey Wardens, which the Grey Wardens were foolish enough to trust, so nearing the end of the game everyone will shift focus to gangraping the Grey Wardens, and the PC will eventually get to choose if he/she wants to show mercy to our Grey Warden from DAO for his/her foolishness. If we choose to show mercy he/she will die anyways because one of our companions that's locked into our party for this sequence in the game will kill him/her anyways.

The End.

Or, they could actually make it fun and satisfying for people hungering for more Flemeth/Morrigan by revealing their agendas as following: Flemeth is the evil force driving Thedas into chaos, and Morrigan is working against her.

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Oh you mean because it's so different from that one time when the protagonist was a warden of the grey wardens?


Considering I wasn't forced to be all happy about the prospect in the game, then it is entirely different. At least, not initially was I forced to be happy about the prospect, though the game ended up failing later on by making you unable to keep such a mindset -- even if the game would still inevitably dictate that you should save Ferelden, you should've been allowed to constantly take issue with the plan.

Anyway, I was still allowed to shape my character. Did he voluntarily join the Wardens, or was he forced into it? Was he pro-Mage or pro-Templar? Did he side with the Architect or against him? And so on and so forth. The Warden's beliefs were his own. Even the Eluvian choice with Morrigan for a romanced Warden can be seen as "Have I had enough of this life?".

With DAII, Hawke was reduced to little more then a bystander to events that would indeed threaten him, his home, his friends, and his way of life until he was forced to act in them. We could barely shape his beliefs, and even then the game overtook our character in favor of some other design -- the guy who does nothing for years on end.

Additionally, plot stupidity/railroading would render him incapable of attempting to perform acts that could be seen as intelligent -- the Petrice moment in particular.

If DA3 forces you to play as a part of the New Inquisition, you're forced to be anti-Mage. You're either a pro-****themages character, or a Chantry Loyalist Mage.
 
Neither is very promising.

As opposed to DAO where a Mage Warden could be Libertarian, Loyalist, or IIRC -- I've only played the Mage Origin twice, so I don't know if you could be the other 3 -- any of the other three branches of the fraternities.

RenjiRenee wrote...

/BSN


Don't be disingenuous. I'm not saying anything of the sort until I receive more information on DA3. What I am saying is that going down that road does not bode well for the series considering the backlash DAII had simply for forcing Hawke to do things that players wouldn't have otherwise had their Hawke do.

Besides, I had never even said I would pre-order DAIII anywhere in the past. In fact, I've repeatedly stated that I wouldn't be preordering DA3 -- or would at least be really apprehensive about doing so -- based on how disappointed I was with DAII.

I'd have to be a fool to preorder a game that's a sequel to a sequel -- can't phrase that eloquently, I admit -- that disappointed me personally, with very little information to really go on as to what that future game would contain. I can however say that based on what information I do have -- whether it's real or fake -- that I'm leaning more towards not buying it then buying it.

If it seems to be better then its predecessor, then I lean towards the "buy" area. If it seems to be worse or the same as its predecessor, then I remain in the "don't buy" area.

As of now, any information on DA3 that's been confirmed by devs hasn't been substantial for me to warrant an "Instant buy" mindset. Most of it's theoretical, and even then there seems to be some problems with how those theoretical concepts would play out.

To be honest, I've actually been bouncing between my feelings on the matter. In the DA Twitter thread, there was a tweet that raised my hopes for DA's gameplay potential. That didn't mean I was an instant pre-order, but it did cause me to be hopeful for the series' design future based on what I knew, which wasn't much.

And now, reading that the PC may be forced into a particular viewpoint and set of beliefs seems to have tarnished what hope there was for me. Because while gameplay might be fun -- assuming DA3's gameplay is improved significantly -- if the story isn't as captivating then it's a wasted venture for me. And that's assuming this is legit.

When the idea for the DA3 PC was being a Seeker that forumites were tossing around, that was different. I could get behind that, because there was a myriad of reasons for why one could be a Seeker. But being a part of the New Inquisition? Not much room for roleplaying there.

Which is really the nature of being blind to what's going on. You're happy, then sad. Happy, then sad. Then you eat ice cream.

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 15 août 2012 - 07:26 .


#120
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Annie_Dear wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

esper wrote...

I hope, hope, hope, this is not true. Inquestioner holds a very loaded meaning both in game and in real world and the though of going a whole game with people calling me that makes me feel very badly.
If thi turn out to be true, da3 will really be my last dragon age game :-(


THE INQUISITION HAS BEGUN!!!! :o


Wait, are these supposed to be suggestions of names? As in names for the game?

If so, boy are they bad.


I chose Dragon age: the inquisiton :innocent:

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Emzamination wrote...

Annie_Dear wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

esper wrote...

I hope, hope, hope, this is not true. Inquestioner holds a very loaded meaning both in game and in real world and the though of going a whole game with people calling me that makes me feel very badly.
If thi turn out to be true, da3 will really be my last dragon age game :-(


THE INQUISITION HAS BEGUN!!!! :o


Wait, are these supposed to be suggestions of names? As in names for the game?

If so, boy are they bad.


I chose Dragon age: the inquisiton :innocent:


I still think "The Breach" is awesome.. though it makes you wonder WHAT exactly is breaching

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DragonAge3:Inquisitor makes me think of Terminator in a medieval setting.
Knock.Knock.Door open. "Are you the mage Sarah Connor?..."

I don't like the sound of inquisitor , i really think seeker sounds better.

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Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

Annie_Dear wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

esper wrote...

I hope, hope, hope, this is not true. Inquestioner holds a very loaded meaning both in game and in real world and the though of going a whole game with people calling me that makes me feel very badly.
If thi turn out to be true, da3 will really be my last dragon age game :-(


THE INQUISITION HAS BEGUN!!!! :o


Wait, are these supposed to be suggestions of names? As in names for the game?

If so, boy are they bad.


I chose Dragon age: the inquisiton :innocent:


I still think "The Breach" is awesome.. though it makes you wonder WHAT exactly is breaching


Maybe a breach in the fade? :o

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I can barely read them on my phone. What are the name options?

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Emzamination wrote...

esper wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

TamiBx wrote...

They just said you would be a character in the Inquisition. Doesn't mean you'll be Chantry lover. Maybe it's a new order. Maybe you get to be a rebel and over throw everything. Maybe you get to build a new order and shape it the way you want: pro Chantry or anti Chantry, We don't know anything at all at this point. Not even if this is real.

People are so fast to judge. Hahaha.


That is exactly what the synopsis said so I don't understand why everyone's crying pro-chantry :mellow:


Because the Templar order was called the Inquestion before joining with the Chantry. Which is why I say it is also a loaded name in game universe.


But the description clearly states the explosion happened in the middle of a peace meeting which would mean both mages and templars were attempting to broker peace.I guess after the explosion a new order will be born to replace the chantry or mold it into something new like an imperium :wizard:


I rather doubt they will broke peace so quickly, that just sound weird. But I am all for replacing the chantry.

But as I said, I doubt will get to have such a meaningfull decision. Also someone behind everything is just bad. The whole point of da2 was that there was no evil master mind, and I really think less lyrium riddled idols would make it all better.