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#1351
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It doesn't matter if it was requited or not. Imagine if Snape suddenly decided to romance another character, if Lennier "moved on" after Delenn, if Scarlett gave up on Ashley mere months later, if Fleur forgot Jon Forsyte after her marriage? What would've happened with the books? It kills the story. It's the same with every piece of art, including games.

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Kulyok wrote...

It doesn't matter if it was requited or not. Imagine if Snape suddenly decided to romance another character, if Lennier "moved on" after Delenn, if Scarlett gave up on Ashley mere months later, if Fleur forgot Jon Forsyte after her marriage? What would've happened with the books? It kills the story. It's the same with every piece of art, including games.


Wait what.

I don't think it's a big deal though. They dismissed the epilogue slides for Cullen where he goes crazy, so I think they can excuse a small crush. Nothing happened with it. It's not a huge part of his character, and even in DA2 it's considered a rumor that Meredith frowns upon and dismisses.

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Kulyok wrote...

It doesn't matter if it was requited or not. Imagine if Snape suddenly decided to romance another character, if Lennier "moved on" after Delenn, if Scarlett gave up on Ashley mere months later, if Fleur forgot Jon Forsyte after her marriage? What would've happened with the books? It kills the story. It's the same with every piece of art, including games.


Seriously? It was an infatuation when Cullen was a minor Origins character, not an epic romance - and that's only if one specific origin (a female mage) was picked.

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Well, if you can convince thousands of "Cullen loves Amell" fangirls that it's just a minor crush and it's as easily dismissed as the epilogue slide, I'd be very surprised. :)

I do feel unhappy about the choice, though.

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Kulyok wrote...

It doesn't matter if it was requited or not. Imagine if Snape suddenly decided to romance another character, if Lennier "moved on" after Delenn, if Scarlett gave up on Ashley mere months later, if Fleur forgot Jon Forsyte after her marriage? What would've happened with the books? It kills the story. It's the same with every piece of art, including games.


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Kulyok wrote...

Well, if you can convince thousands of "Cullen loves Amell" fangirls that it's just a minor crush and it's as easily dismissed as the epilogue slide, I'd be very surprised. :)

I do feel unhappy about the choice, though.


I never played female mage origin, but I understand what you mean. That was actually a concern of mine as well when the whole rumour started up. There are a LOT of fans who like Cullen/FMageWarden and I admit that even I might feel just a little cheated when he gets over her.
Now, we all know that it's irrational as hell, especially since 10 years will have gone past since DA:O. Then again, I believe that ALL fans are irrational in some aspects.

Hell, if I found out that Anora moved on and married someone else after my Warden disappeared, I'd totally flip my ****. (Even though I know that, as Queen, she has certain responsibilities.)

Shipping. It's not a game.

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Kulyok wrote...

Why did they decide to make Cullen a party companion? If he's going to be a companion, it means he'll likely be a romance option, which means they are making him "cheat" on female Warden Amell. Why would they want to do that? It diminishes his character, kills a great love story with a "yeah, yeah, he moved on(and had a round of drinks with a doctor on the Citadel, hello, Kaidan)", and potentially robs us of a brand new romance.

It's pretty sappy and unrealistic that you'll never go for anyone but the first person you fall for. I'm not even one of Cullen's fangirls so that's not me defending him being an LI in DAI either.

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KiddDaBeauty wrote...

Kulyok wrote...

Why did they decide to make Cullen a party companion? If he's going to be a companion, it means he'll likely be a romance option, which means they are making him "cheat" on female Warden Amell. Why would they want to do that? It diminishes his character, kills a great love story with a "yeah, yeah, he moved on(and had a round of drinks with a doctor on the Citadel, hello, Kaidan)", and potentially robs us of a brand new romance.

It's pretty sappy and unrealistic that you'll never go for anyone but the first person you fall for. I'm not even one of Cullen's fangirls so that's not me defending him being an LI in DAI either.


Yeah, it is. But always having about 4 people fawn over the PC for no other reason than them being them is also sappy and unrealistic.
Hell, the Hero of Ferelden beating the Archdemon and saving the world is also sappy and unrealistic.
Point is, most people tend to not mind it. I think we all have our sappy headcanons.

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Kulyok wrote...

Why did they decide to make Cullen a party companion? If he's going to be a companion, it means he'll likely be a romance option, which means they are making him "cheat" on female Warden Amell. Why would they want to do that? It diminishes his character, kills a great love story with a "yeah, yeah, he moved on(and had a round of drinks with a doctor on the Citadel, hello, Kaidan)", and potentially robs us of a brand new romance.


What. I'm doing a lady Amell run right now and all that happens is that Cullen has a (possibly unrequieted, depending on how you RP it) crush on the Warden. And no matter how you RP it, they NEVER have an actual relationship in canon. And that was 7-10 years ago. 7-10 years to not get over a crush? I've heard a lot of complaints on BSN but this one is something else.

Also, if you feel that having Cullen fall for someone else might threaten the integrity of a Cullen/Amell romance you could, you know.....not romance him?

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Kulyok wrote...

Well, if you can convince thousands of "Cullen loves Amell" fangirls that it's just a minor crush and it's as easily dismissed as the epilogue slide, I'd be very surprised. :)

I do feel unhappy about the choice, though.


I suppose some of them might be a little disappointed, but most of them will be too excited that he's a love interest in a new game, and they can actually play through it instead of imagining most of it.

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What? Ten years have passed since Cullen and the warden last met, how could he still have a crush on her after all that time? It's all well and good to head-cannon "and Cullen stayed in love with the warden forever," but if a future game comes out that disproved your head-cannon then you can't get mad- it just so happens that your head cannon was wrong.

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Yeah. It was just unrequited love, and he seems to be over it by DA2. The only way you can get a mini-romance is through player-made mods in DA:O.  Also, there's only one origin story where he has a crush on a mage. If your Warden isn't a female mage, he doesn't have a crush on anyone (to my knowledge at least)


Well if IRC, there are two mage apprentices who are gossiping about Cullen's interest in a mage. Though I don't remember if that was in the female mage origin...

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Guys, one question: Do the mages or magisters of Tevinter have a certain symbol that represents them or something like that?

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Blackrising wrote...

Guys, one question: Do the mages or magisters of Tevinter have a certain symbol that represents them or something like that?


Hmm it depends I guess, but we know the circle of magi has this: http://images.wikia....coenchana_0.png

And each person within the circle has different colored robes depending on their rank, I suppose its not that much different in Tevinter either, except that the mages there has more freedom and more possibility to "rule".

And the inquisition possibly has this, the symbol of the seeker and templar combined:
http://images.wikia....inquisition.jpg

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Well I was bored and figured "Hey, let's trace another image (badly) and maybe I'll see something I missed before!".

And well, I saw that:

Posted Image

I wasn't sure what that symbol might be, so I thought it might simply be a Circle symbol or something. But looking closer, it looks like an eye to me, the symbol of the Seekers.

http://images.wikia...._symbol_eye.png

Now whether that endorses my theory that this is the planned PC or not, I have no idea. This might just be a concept for a certain type of enemy/guard/unimportant NPC #21.

Still, we might as well discuss my desillusions while we wait for any news.

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Blackrising wrote...

Guys, one question: Do the mages or magisters of Tevinter have a certain symbol that represents them or something like that?


I don't think we've seen one for the magisters (I think it'd be more likely they'd have individual family crests), but this is the symbol of the Tevinter Chantry:

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I don't remember seeing anything conspicuous when magisters turned up in DAO/DA2...

Tevinter's heraldry is supposedly:

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... and while that's probably the symbol of the state itself, magisters are tied to many positions of power so there's a chance - I guess - that they could also use it?

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Guess thats as close to the Bioware-Warhammer-RPG as it will ever get.

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Blackrising wrote...

Well I was bored and figured "Hey, let's trace another image (badly) and maybe I'll see something I missed before!".

And well, I saw that:

Posted Image

I wasn't sure what that symbol might be, so I thought it might simply be a Circle symbol or something. But looking closer, it looks like an eye to me, the symbol of the Seekers.

http://images.wikia...._symbol_eye.png

Now whether that endorses my theory that this is the planned PC or not, I have no idea. This might just be a concept for a certain type of enemy/guard/unimportant NPC #21.

Still, we might as well discuss my desillusions while we wait for any news.


You are right, that looks like the Seeker symbol, but I doubt its the person we`ll play.
I personal think this is simply a companion, who may become a part of your "Inquesition order", however it does make one wonder. Posted Image

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Captain Eldarion wrote...

Blackrising wrote...

Well I was bored and figured "Hey, let's trace another image (badly) and maybe I'll see something I missed before!".

And well, I saw that:

Posted Image

I wasn't sure what that symbol might be, so I thought it might simply be a Circle symbol or something. But looking closer, it looks like an eye to me, the symbol of the Seekers.

http://images.wikia...._symbol_eye.png

Now whether that endorses my theory that this is the planned PC or not, I have no idea. This might just be a concept for a certain type of enemy/guard/unimportant NPC #21.

Still, we might as well discuss my desillusions while we wait for any news.


You are right, that looks like the Seeker symbol, but I doubt its the person we`ll play.
I personal think this is simply a companion, who may become a part of your "Inquesition order", however it does make one wonder. Posted Image


I just keep thinking "Why would they show us the concept of the same character only with reversed gender?". That wouldn't really make sense if it was a simple companion. So I'm thinking it either really is the PC (although I admittedly doubt that) or it's a concept for unnamed NPC members of the chantry/seekers/inquisition.
They both just look so badass, I'd be ecstatic if this was the default PC. xD

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cogsandcurls wrote...

Kulyok wrote...

Why did they decide to make Cullen a party companion? If he's going to be a companion, it means he'll likely be a romance option, which means they are making him "cheat" on female Warden Amell. Why would they want to do that? It diminishes his character, kills a great love story with a "yeah, yeah, he moved on(and had a round of drinks with a doctor on the Citadel, hello, Kaidan)", and potentially robs us of a brand new romance.


What. I'm doing a lady Amell run right now and all that happens is that Cullen has a (possibly unrequieted, depending on how you RP it) crush on the Warden. And no matter how you RP it, they NEVER have an actual relationship in canon. And that was 7-10 years ago. 7-10 years to not get over a crush? I've heard a lot of complaints on BSN but this one is something else.

Also, if you feel that having Cullen fall for someone else might threaten the integrity of a Cullen/Amell romance you could, you know.....not romance him?


In my first mage playthrough I didn't even know that Cullen had a crush on her.  My Surana was not interested in flirting with a templar.  After hearing about it on the forums, I tried the variations of that conversation, but it would be pretty annoying if, upon importing my Surana's game into DA3 (assuming that's even possible), it was inferred that she and Cullen had a thing, when she would never do that.

The only place a Cullen/Amell OR Surana) romance actually happens is in fan fiction.  Which is fine, and people are welcome to their headcanons, but the writers of the game should never feel obliged to limit themselves because they don't want to tread on any fan's imagined stories that may not even have the chance to occur in most playthroughs.  

I generally support keeping the player character's fate after each game open and vague, in order to allow people to create their own stories about where the PC ends up, but minor non-player characters shouldn't be hemmed in by variations in previous games.

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Blackrising wrote...

Captain Eldarion wrote...

Blackrising wrote...

Well I was bored and figured "Hey, let's trace another image (badly) and maybe I'll see something I missed before!".

And well, I saw that:

Posted Image

I wasn't sure what that symbol might be, so I thought it might simply be a Circle symbol or something. But looking closer, it looks like an eye to me, the symbol of the Seekers.

http://images.wikia...._symbol_eye.png

Now whether that endorses my theory that this is the planned PC or not, I have no idea. This might just be a concept for a certain type of enemy/guard/unimportant NPC #21.

Still, we might as well discuss my desillusions while we wait for any news.


You are right, that looks like the Seeker symbol, but I doubt its the person we`ll play.
I personal think this is simply a companion, who may become a part of your "Inquesition order", however it does make one wonder. Posted Image


I just keep thinking "Why would they show us the concept of the same character only with reversed gender?". That wouldn't really make sense if it was a simple companion. So I'm thinking it either really is the PC (although I admittedly doubt that) or it's a concept for unnamed NPC members of the chantry/seekers/inquisition.
They both just look so badass, I'd be ecstatic if this was the default PC. xD


Hmm true, it is a mystery, although their clothing really looks like Tevinter clothing as I stated earlier...so it may just be that they are siblings, sister and brother maybe (we have yet to see companions like that)...although to me the face of the other still looks male to me, but then again I thought Brienne in game of thrones looked like an ugly male too. lol
You are right though, they do look badass. Strange however, the clothing in the game kinda seems to get more and more modern, their clothing kinda seems like 1700 or steampunk-ish. xD

#1373
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Random gaming website wrote...

And with that said and duly dismissed, we may now direct our attention to BioWare Social Network user "Earthborn_Shepard"...


wut

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Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Random gaming website wrote...

And with that said and duly dismissed, we may now direct our attention to BioWare Social Network user "Earthborn_Shepard"...


wut


Haha looks like you`re famous, won`t be long now before you maybe get interviewed. jk xD

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Poor Earthborn_Shepard!
You 're becoming the center of the attention!
Maybe you'll get some interviews. :D